| Crown Estate latest 22:32 - Mar 10 with 9185 views | Kilkennyjack |
Our welsh councils are revolting ……
Bit of a shame really as Charlie boy always does the right thing by Wales … 🇬🇧 …. Known for it ….
What was Scotland thinking because everything always runs better from Westminster and Buck House, dont you know …. And Wales is wealthy enough already so not big deal to us …. |  |
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| Crown Estate latest on 15:49 - Apr 10 with 1309 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Crown Estate latest on 10:20 - Apr 10 by felixstowe_jack |
It is the UK's wealth which the UK government share throughout the UK. With Wales getting £130 for every £100 England gets. |
You fail to recognise that Wales is largely rural. We are obliged as good citizen to provide our food production wind energy and water at know down prices to keep the bankers Insurers advertiser's computer scientists well fed and nourishes. We gave some of these people ourselves but in lower proportion..
Our offshore Wind energy and water is handed over for free at the behest of the Westminster government.
The Crown Estate is OWNED by the Monarchy. The WAG is delighted to get more offshore wind power and pylons in Wales except we only get minor temporary benefit. As with the coal the profits are hived off by the English Monarchy.
Farming is not profitable like Merchant banking ( which the taxpayer bailed out in 2009). We do our duty in the ecosystem of the economy.
Your characterization of Wales as a dependency state from over the border is fake and insulting and only serves to encourage separatist sympathies. |  |
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| Crown Estate latest on 17:02 - Apr 10 with 1263 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Crown Estate latest on 15:49 - Apr 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You fail to recognise that Wales is largely rural. We are obliged as good citizen to provide our food production wind energy and water at know down prices to keep the bankers Insurers advertiser's computer scientists well fed and nourishes. We gave some of these people ourselves but in lower proportion..
Our offshore Wind energy and water is handed over for free at the behest of the Westminster government.
The Crown Estate is OWNED by the Monarchy. The WAG is delighted to get more offshore wind power and pylons in Wales except we only get minor temporary benefit. As with the coal the profits are hived off by the English Monarchy.
Farming is not profitable like Merchant banking ( which the taxpayer bailed out in 2009). We do our duty in the ecosystem of the economy.
Your characterization of Wales as a dependency state from over the border is fake and insulting and only serves to encourage separatist sympathies. |
He thinks of the nation of Wales like benefit cheats.
Absolutely Wales can and should pay its own way.
We just need fairness to get on with the job.
HS2 fairness
Crown Estate fairness
EU funding replacement fairness
Natural Resources market rate fairness
Make coal tips safe fairness
Devolved Police and Criminal Justice
Devolved Air Passenger Tax
And throw in a St David’s Day BH.
Fair funding for sport and culture
That would be a reasonable start …. | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 17:34 - Apr 10 with 1217 views | raynor94 |
| Crown Estate latest on 17:02 - Apr 10 by Kilkennyjack |
He thinks of the nation of Wales like benefit cheats.
Absolutely Wales can and should pay its own way.
We just need fairness to get on with the job.
HS2 fairness
Crown Estate fairness
EU funding replacement fairness
Natural Resources market rate fairness
Make coal tips safe fairness
Devolved Police and Criminal Justice
Devolved Air Passenger Tax
And throw in a St David’s Day BH.
Fair funding for sport and culture
That would be a reasonable start …. |
Labour have paid millions into making tips safe since coming into power.
As much as I like using Cardiff airport it can't go on being subsidised for millions by the tax payer |  |
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| Crown Estate latest on 18:39 - Apr 10 with 1189 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Crown Estate latest on 17:34 - Apr 10 by raynor94 |
Labour have paid millions into making tips safe since coming into power.
As much as I like using Cardiff airport it can't go on being subsidised for millions by the tax payer |
Also, if Wales is being funded fairly re the rest of the UK then EU replacement funds don't come into it. After all the EU money was onky our money returned to us AND most of the time it was match funding and all these projects the EU liked putting their flags on were half funded by Wales/Uk too. |  | | |
| Crown Estate latest on 21:38 - Apr 10 with 1137 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Crown Estate latest on 17:34 - Apr 10 by raynor94 |
Labour have paid millions into making tips safe since coming into power.
As much as I like using Cardiff airport it can't go on being subsidised for millions by the tax payer |
It is a public transport facility. It is obviously better to be making a profit. It also supports 4000 jobs like the engineering facilities. If the airport loses £6m that is £2 for very citizen. People pay millions extra commuting to Bristol, London and Birmingham . TfL has made huge losses but no one talks of shutting down train lines. I am willing for my tax to go to keep CWL open.
Safety is generally not seen as an option. Having spent millions is not a reason for complacency. | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 22:16 - Apr 10 with 1120 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Crown Estate latest on 18:39 - Apr 10 by SullutaCreturned |
Also, if Wales is being funded fairly re the rest of the UK then EU replacement funds don't come into it. After all the EU money was onky our money returned to us AND most of the time it was match funding and all these projects the EU liked putting their flags on were half funded by Wales/Uk too. |
Wrong.
The UK chose not to fund us. | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 22:18 - Apr 10 with 1118 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Crown Estate latest on 21:38 - Apr 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is a public transport facility. It is obviously better to be making a profit. It also supports 4000 jobs like the engineering facilities. If the airport loses £6m that is £2 for very citizen. People pay millions extra commuting to Bristol, London and Birmingham . TfL has made huge losses but no one talks of shutting down train lines. I am willing for my tax to go to keep CWL open.
Safety is generally not seen as an option. Having spent millions is not a reason for complacency. |
If they wanted both Cardiff and Bristol could both be successful airports.
Bristol is stupid busy, while Cardiff can clearly do more business. | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 15:52 - Apr 11 with 1041 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Crown Estate latest on 22:16 - Apr 10 by Kilkennyjack |
Wrong.
The UK chose not to fund us. |
Without match funding the EU wouldn't have funded anything either. And when we sent X billions to the EU but got X-60% back it's hardly great.
Westminster sent more to Wales last year than the EU spent here in it's history I think. 2000 to 2023 Wales got 5.3 billion from the EU but again, there had to be 5.3 billion given from the Senedd to get that cash. The last bit may not be accurate because I'm not sure match funding was needed EVERY time but certainly most times. | | | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 20:39 - Apr 11 with 1014 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Crown Estate latest on 15:52 - Apr 11 by SullutaCreturned |
Without match funding the EU wouldn't have funded anything either. And when we sent X billions to the EU but got X-60% back it's hardly great.
Westminster sent more to Wales last year than the EU spent here in it's history I think. 2000 to 2023 Wales got 5.3 billion from the EU but again, there had to be 5.3 billion given from the Senedd to get that cash. The last bit may not be accurate because I'm not sure match funding was needed EVERY time but certainly most times. |
My point is that we only got EU assistance cos the UK govt allowed us to be so poor.
And that is sadly a fact.
I don't care what happened to fix it.
Its a Westminster disgrace/failure that Wales ended up in that position.
If you were so minded then you might say that if Wales is treated this badly by London then we would be better off without London. | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 14:10 - Apr 12 with 942 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Crown Estate latest on 20:39 - Apr 11 by Kilkennyjack |
My point is that we only got EU assistance cos the UK govt allowed us to be so poor.
And that is sadly a fact.
I don't care what happened to fix it.
Its a Westminster disgrace/failure that Wales ended up in that position.
If you were so minded then you might say that if Wales is treated this badly by London then we would be better off without London. |
That's not been your point though, you always crowed about EU money as if they gave us more than Westminster.
Wales would be better off without the Senedd too, fce it, we could do without politicians really, all over the world. They are the most corrupt section of society, even Al Capone didn't pull as many stunts as politicians do.
But point taken and my answer is, we need a British government, we need to be one country but historic rivalry won't let that happen so we will always be the poor relations. We could try independence but I wonder how our largest trading partner would deal with that? | | | |
| Crown Estate latest on 14:42 - Apr 12 with 931 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Crown Estate latest on 14:10 - Apr 12 by SullutaCreturned |
That's not been your point though, you always crowed about EU money as if they gave us more than Westminster.
Wales would be better off without the Senedd too, fce it, we could do without politicians really, all over the world. They are the most corrupt section of society, even Al Capone didn't pull as many stunts as politicians do.
But point taken and my answer is, we need a British government, we need to be one country but historic rivalry won't let that happen so we will always be the poor relations. We could try independence but I wonder how our largest trading partner would deal with that? |
You represent Wimp limp Welsh patriotism that I detest. Poodle Welshmen having racist banter with nasty English people at the ground singing " We know what we are". Yuk.
Here you post concerns about how the English would treat us if we ran our own affairs. Swansea urban people seem to define themselves from a third party perspective. An English perspective. Welsh independence is seem through the eyes of and English person..
The Senedd took 600 years of work. A group of poodle Welshmen will not see Wales go back to being run like a third world colony.
English corruption dwarfs Welsh corruption and the Monarchy are at the top of the food chain.
More evidence here of the fleecing of the taxpayer.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/apr/12/a-dartmoor-village-is-paying-pri [Post edited 12 Apr 14:46]
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| Crown Estate latest on 16:18 - Apr 13 with 840 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Crown Estate latest on 14:42 - Apr 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You represent Wimp limp Welsh patriotism that I detest. Poodle Welshmen having racist banter with nasty English people at the ground singing " We know what we are". Yuk.
Here you post concerns about how the English would treat us if we ran our own affairs. Swansea urban people seem to define themselves from a third party perspective. An English perspective. Welsh independence is seem through the eyes of and English person..
The Senedd took 600 years of work. A group of poodle Welshmen will not see Wales go back to being run like a third world colony.
English corruption dwarfs Welsh corruption and the Monarchy are at the top of the food chain.
More evidence here of the fleecing of the taxpayer.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/apr/12/a-dartmoor-village-is-paying-pri [Post edited 12 Apr 14:46]
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And you represent planks who do noy understand how the world works. How does W
ales trade if we ended up with a hard border with England?
The Senedd is running us down into a third world status with its loopy ideas. They continue to waste money and drive us towards net zero regardless of the costs.
Westminster corruption does dwarf Welsh corruption purely as a matter of scale (it's not English because not everybody in government nor in Westminster is English though maybe you don't understand that.
The tax payer is getting fleeced by every government. In Wales we will soon be paying millions more to cover the costs of the extra politicians and all while we see cuts to vital services again.
It's not my fault if you are not bright enough to see and understand these things.
This is why we must ditch Labour AND Tory and find something new, between them they have ruined this country and what Starmer has done this week shows what UK Labour thinks of Wales.
My opinions have nothing to do with patriotism of any kind, it's not abput Wales OR England, its about the bigger picture. The picture we ALL have to live with. | | | |
| Crown Estate latest on 19:54 - Apr 13 with 808 views | Kilkennyjack |
See this is total bollox in a modern western democratic nation. | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 20:42 - Apr 14 with 721 views | Kilkennyjack |
We are talking about the Crown Estate.
Feel free to create on thread on signs in Barri though.
End the Crown Estate in Wales now. | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 17:31 - Apr 15 with 644 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Crown Estate latest on 20:42 - Apr 14 by Kilkennyjack |
We are talking about the Crown Estate.
Feel free to create on thread on signs in Barri though.
End the Crown Estate in Wales now. |
All the littoral areas and of Wales belongs to the King. A chunky percentage of profits goes directly into his pocket. Welsh rate payers taxpayer get nothing for ths eyesore of turbines and associated pylons.
It was first coal now wind. The Crown did not even clean up the mess they profited from or compete the miners property with ling disease. ( Too expensive). | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 19:10 - Apr 15 with 626 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Crown Estate latest on 20:42 - Apr 14 by Kilkennyjack |
We are talking about the Crown Estate.
Feel free to create on thread on signs in Barri though.
End the Crown Estate in Wales now. |
End the crown estate UK wide, do away with the monarchy, the House of lords, the current honours system, ditch all of this corrupt nonsense. | | | |
| Crown Estate latest on 21:27 - Apr 15 with 591 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Crown Estate latest on 19:10 - Apr 15 by SullutaCreturned |
End the crown estate UK wide, do away with the monarchy, the House of lords, the current honours system, ditch all of this corrupt nonsense. |
You make a fair point. | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 22:32 - Apr 15 with 581 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Crown Estate latest on 17:31 - Apr 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
All the littoral areas and of Wales belongs to the King. A chunky percentage of profits goes directly into his pocket. Welsh rate payers taxpayer get nothing for ths eyesore of turbines and associated pylons.
It was first coal now wind. The Crown did not even clean up the mess they profited from or compete the miners property with ling disease. ( Too expensive). |
It doesn’t go “directly into his pocket”. It goes into the treasury and the government keeps most of it and then decides on the sovereign grant.
This has been the case for hundreds of years. |  |
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| Crown Estate latest on 13:20 - Apr 20 with 426 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Crown Estate latest on 22:32 - Apr 15 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It doesn’t go “directly into his pocket”. It goes into the treasury and the government keeps most of it and then decides on the sovereign grant.
This has been the case for hundreds of years. |
Its not right though is it.
Perhaps after hundreds of years, you know, something could change …? | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 23:55 - Apr 22 with 352 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Crown Estate latest on 22:16 - Apr 10 by Kilkennyjack |
Wrong.
The UK chose not to fund us. |
The UK funds Wales by giving it funding of £130 per person for every £100 spend in England.
Westminster also offered to full fund the M4 relief road ad part of the UK infrastructure programme. Drakeford turned it down for political reasons while excepting UK taxpayers money, via the EU, to part fund the heads of the valley road. | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 00:20 - Apr 23 with 348 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Crown Estate latest on 23:55 - Apr 22 by felixstowe_jack |
The UK funds Wales by giving it funding of £130 per person for every £100 spend in England.
Westminster also offered to full fund the M4 relief road ad part of the UK infrastructure programme. Drakeford turned it down for political reasons while excepting UK taxpayers money, via the EU, to part fund the heads of the valley road. |
Mr Barnett himself said the Barnett Formula is crap.
‘Consequentials’ based on Englands needs/spends is not the same as paying Wales what it needs.
I am here to help you improve your understanding.
Indy would solve you some headaches.
Drakeford refused to play Johnson’s game.
You probably do not realise it was all about Johnson mocking the Taffs.
Drakers said he would accept the money with no strings, Johnson refused. It was a game.
Johnson back to being a nobody is good news. | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 07:42 - Apr 23 with 312 views | Boundy |
| Crown Estate latest on 00:20 - Apr 23 by Kilkennyjack |
Mr Barnett himself said the Barnett Formula is crap.
‘Consequentials’ based on Englands needs/spends is not the same as paying Wales what it needs.
I am here to help you improve your understanding.
Indy would solve you some headaches.
Drakeford refused to play Johnson’s game.
You probably do not realise it was all about Johnson mocking the Taffs.
Drakers said he would accept the money with no strings, Johnson refused. It was a game.
Johnson back to being a nobody is good news. |
the same "Drakers " who proudly announced that we have too many beds in hospitals , watch last nights Saving Lives in Cardiff to see if your hero is right . | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 21:55 - Apr 24 with 202 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Crown Estate latest on 07:42 - Apr 23 by Boundy |
the same "Drakers " who proudly announced that we have too many beds in hospitals , watch last nights Saving Lives in Cardiff to see if your hero is right . |
Not my hero.
However a far better man than Johnson,Tuss, Rishi, and Dai Cam. | |
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| Crown Estate latest on 23:19 - Apr 24 with 182 views | Boundy |
| Crown Estate latest on 21:55 - Apr 24 by Kilkennyjack |
Not my hero.
However a far better man than Johnson,Tuss, Rishi, and Dai Cam. |
Really a better man ( excluding Truss for obvious reasons) he'd slot straight in with that lot, another amateur ruining the lives of hundreds of thousands . | |
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