| Grooming gangs 13:36 - Apr 11 with 2935 views | Boundy |
I see that the government are not going to insist on a national enquiry but will leave it to local councils to look into the national scandal which has been the abuse of young white girls , which imo is a disgrace in itself considering the collusion of some police officers and officials. |  |
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| Grooming gangs on 14:08 - Apr 11 with 1837 views | onehunglow |
No surprise Boundy
These gangs invariably operate in strong Labour voting areas
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| Grooming gangs on 16:31 - Apr 11 with 1770 views | Boundy |
| Grooming gangs on 14:08 - Apr 11 by onehunglow |
No surprise Boundy
These gangs invariably operate in strong Labour voting areas
Filthy bustards |
There is that but the issue seems so wide spread that to ignore it is disgraceful .It looks like MPs are more concerned with the lack of an airport in Pakistan than their own constitutes. | |
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| Grooming gangs on 18:15 - Apr 11 with 1724 views | Gwyn737 |
I just want to see the most effective method used.
The argument being made by the government is that firstly there has been a recent national enquiry and secondly that the focussed ones will be more productive.
TBH I don’t know which one would be best as it’s become so politicised.
I do worry that the focus on the abhorrent crimes by Asian grooming gangs means we ignore some of the other, equally horrendous stuff like this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e43nxpepno
I may be wrong but I don’t recall this being talked about on here. | | | |
| Grooming gangs on 18:28 - Apr 11 with 1719 views | SullutaCreturned |
We need to know why the police did nothing even when these crimes were reported. There's somebody in the police who may deserve to be jailed. | | | |
| Grooming gangs on 18:30 - Apr 11 with 1714 views | Gwyn737 |
| Grooming gangs on 18:28 - Apr 11 by SullutaCreturned |
We need to know why the police did nothing even when these crimes were reported. There's somebody in the police who may deserve to be jailed. |
Agreed.
We need to know the best way to do it. | | | |
| Grooming gangs on 19:01 - Apr 11 with 1687 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Grooming gangs on 14:08 - Apr 11 by onehunglow |
No surprise Boundy
These gangs invariably operate in strong Labour voting areas
Filthy bustards |
Boundy is right about a national inquiry.
Tory government for last 14 years have done very little.
Needs doing.
I would agree to capital punishment for anyone involved in the systematic abuse of children.
Horrific cases, one after the other. |  |
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| Grooming gangs on 21:16 - Apr 11 with 1637 views | Boundy |
| Grooming gangs on 18:15 - Apr 11 by Gwyn737 |
I just want to see the most effective method used.
The argument being made by the government is that firstly there has been a recent national enquiry and secondly that the focussed ones will be more productive.
TBH I don’t know which one would be best as it’s become so politicised.
I do worry that the focus on the abhorrent crimes by Asian grooming gangs means we ignore some of the other, equally horrendous stuff like this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e43nxpepno
I may be wrong but I don’t recall this being talked about on here. |
Thanks for posting the link , too often its forgotten that white folk can be as equally disgraceful as non whites , hopefully this is a local incident and not widespread as the others seem to have been.
I believe regarding the "grooming " gangs and the manner in which the girls were targeted by predominantly Asian men from across the country and the manner in which several police forces and social workers acted in the way they did and the fact that its hoped this will be brushed under the carpet by those in power makes it more important that there is an independent national enquiry.
I see the Chief constable of West Yorkshire ( the place where bad things happen so it seems) has come under fire for putting a temporary block on the hiring of white candidates – a move that could potentially amount to positive discrimination, which is currently illegal in England and Wales, all in the name of diversity . Just how we've allowed our police to become politized as they have where they are supposed to police with consent and not follow some white hall dictak. | |
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| Grooming gangs on 21:27 - Apr 11 with 1627 views | Flashberryjack |
| Grooming gangs on 18:15 - Apr 11 by Gwyn737 |
I just want to see the most effective method used.
The argument being made by the government is that firstly there has been a recent national enquiry and secondly that the focussed ones will be more productive.
TBH I don’t know which one would be best as it’s become so politicised.
I do worry that the focus on the abhorrent crimes by Asian grooming gangs means we ignore some of the other, equally horrendous stuff like this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e43nxpepno
I may be wrong but I don’t recall this being talked about on here. |
Read this statement from one of the vctims of the muslim gang rape, but be warned it is stomach churning, I'd willingly pull the lever to hang these dirty filthy monsters.
Jesse Philips is more concerned about holing on to her seat, than to hold an inquiry that may bring these fithy rats to pay for their depavity, shame on her.
https://www.parallelparliament.co.uk/mp/jess-phillips/vs/katie-lam |  |
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| Grooming gangs on 21:46 - Apr 11 with 1609 views | Boundy |
| Grooming gangs on 21:27 - Apr 11 by Flashberryjack |
Read this statement from one of the vctims of the muslim gang rape, but be warned it is stomach churning, I'd willingly pull the lever to hang these dirty filthy monsters.
Jesse Philips is more concerned about holing on to her seat, than to hold an inquiry that may bring these fithy rats to pay for their depavity, shame on her.
https://www.parallelparliament.co.uk/mp/jess-phillips/vs/katie-lam |
The very least these kids should expect from those in power is a determination to root out and where necessary redo the so many wrongs but no all they get is meaningless words and platitudes . I'd hang the lot with not a second glance. | |
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| Grooming gangs on 00:44 - Apr 12 with 1538 views | Robbie |
Bit O/T but Micheal Gove , James Cleverly and the obnoxious Jeremy Hunt have feathered their nest and will look forward to a comfortable retirerment with all benefits incoming .
Great perks with friends in high places if your in the private clique up there .
James Anderson to become a Sir . Great cricketer but the honours system should be seriously looked it . | | | |
| Grooming gangs on 12:27 - Apr 12 with 1387 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
National inquiries can cost an arm and a leg with lawyers filling their boots and failing to provide the results in good time. The black Friday inquires lasted decades and cost hundreds of millions. It might have found some new information but what are the results ?
From Wikipedia
[The UK Government considers that the main purpose of public inquiries is in “preventing recurrence”. Between 1990 and 2017 UK governments spent at least £630m on public inquiries,with most expensive being the Bloody Sunday Inquiry costing £210.6 million.] [Post edited 12 Apr 12:30]
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| Grooming gangs on 13:06 - Apr 12 with 1359 views | Gwyn737 |
| Grooming gangs on 12:59 - Apr 12 by onehunglow |
But....., lawyers primarily concerned with " justice"
Many struggling with low salaries
This was posted on this site a couple of years ago
This week, a programme coming up on life in Barrister Defence Chambers
Truth seekers
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Criminal lawyers are poorly paid in my opinion.
I don’t think you can group the profession’s pay in one lump. | | | |
| Grooming gangs on 14:35 - Apr 12 with 1306 views | Flashberryjack |
| Grooming gangs on 13:06 - Apr 12 by Gwyn737 |
Criminal lawyers are poorly paid in my opinion.
I don’t think you can group the profession’s pay in one lump. |
Poorly paid ? Yeah !! that's why you can often see them using food banks. | |
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| Grooming gangs on 14:56 - Apr 12 with 1274 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Grooming gangs on 14:35 - Apr 12 by Flashberryjack |
Poorly paid ? Yeah !! that's why you can often see them using food banks. |
Labour brought in these police commissioners. A labour grandee was given the job on Wales for several years Alun Michael. He disappeared for trace once appointed at no doubt huge cost to the rate payer.
There is now a lady in charge for a minority group. Not heard from her either. You would think a hard hitter would be checking on the Force every day to make sure they are dealing correctly with gangs like this from all groups.
Labour should explain what these commissioners are actually doing. Judging by media reports they are doing not a lot.
In Wales we had BLM promoting " defunding of the police" . SWP arrested ( admittedly dubious) people for objecting to the national defunding cause.
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[The Police Commissioner is elected official responsible for ensuring an efficient and effective police service in their area. They act as a link between the police and the community, focusing onE local policing needs and holding the Chief Constable accountable. PCCs also set priorities for policing, manage the police budget, and work with other agencies to prevent crime].
So who was a the PPC for Rotherham and West Yorkshire?
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| Grooming gangs on 16:14 - Apr 12 with 1226 views | Gwyn737 |
| Grooming gangs on 14:35 - Apr 12 by Flashberryjack |
Poorly paid ? Yeah !! that's why you can often see them using food banks. |
Relatively, yes.
When taking into account the levels of qualification and training compaired to other jobs and family or corporate lawyers. | | | |
| Grooming gangs on 16:44 - Apr 12 with 1189 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Grooming gangs on 16:14 - Apr 12 by Gwyn737 |
Relatively, yes.
When taking into account the levels of qualification and training compaired to other jobs and family or corporate lawyers. |
Undocumented single men have nothing "to do" in a remote airfield camp say campaigners. Single young males will no doubt be looking for company. It is basic human nature. Put these guys into the community and they will be grateful and behave themselves for sure. Is this the thinking?
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| Grooming gangs on 17:11 - Apr 12 with 1178 views | Banosswan |
| Grooming gangs on 19:01 - Apr 11 by Kilkennyjack |
Boundy is right about a national inquiry.
Tory government for last 14 years have done very little.
Needs doing.
I would agree to capital punishment for anyone involved in the systematic abuse of children.
Horrific cases, one after the other. |
Mainly in labour supporting areas. All sides of the political spectrum are complicit. |  |
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| Grooming gangs on 17:32 - Apr 12 with 1150 views | Gwyn737 |
| Grooming gangs on 17:11 - Apr 12 by Banosswan |
Mainly in labour supporting areas. All sides of the political spectrum are complicit. |
They’re in Labour areas because they tend to be poorer.
Some of the same reasons that the Tories housed immigrants in those same areas. Less likely to lose votes. (And cheaper of course.) | | | |
| Grooming gangs on 00:44 - Apr 13 with 1065 views | Robbie |
Any arguement of any hot topic of the day in Parliament will result in the same borefest .
Small boats , illegals , alleged black hole in the Treasury numbers which will now be repayed by very many hard earners and unable to pay their bills residents .
Labour will blame the chaos on The Tories , and bang on about the mess they were left in .
It really does get tiresome sometimes watching PMQ , these are our Countries Leaders and all acting like children in the public eye , all for debate but Shirley this is nonsense . | | | |
| Grooming gangs on 09:19 - Apr 13 with 1023 views | Scotia |
It's ok. Rupert Lowe has set up his own inquiry. And appointed the Reform MP James McMurdoch who has actually spent time in prison for assaulting a woman.
Can't beat direct experience I suppose. | | | |
| Grooming gangs on 09:25 - Apr 15 with 798 views | Boundy |
5 million set aside for the local enquiries
7 million spent on Lindsey Hoyle apartment renovations , says a lot on what Labour deem important . 250 ,000 children abused , a quarter of a a million kids and the only thing labour care about is keeping power and the asian vote , anyone who votes for this stain on humanity really need to reassess their moral compass. | |
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| Grooming gangs on 09:50 - Apr 15 with 766 views | raynor94 |
| Grooming gangs on 09:25 - Apr 15 by Boundy |
5 million set aside for the local enquiries
7 million spent on Lindsey Hoyle apartment renovations , says a lot on what Labour deem important . 250 ,000 children abused , a quarter of a a million kids and the only thing labour care about is keeping power and the asian vote , anyone who votes for this stain on humanity really need to reassess their moral compass. |
Lindley Hoyle the man who has charged £250000 to the tax payer for travel and junkets around the world |  |
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| Grooming gangs on 17:34 - Apr 15 with 676 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Grooming gangs on 09:50 - Apr 15 by raynor94 |
Lindley Hoyle the man who has charged £250000 to the tax payer for travel and junkets around the world |
National enquires are like this unfortunately. The Bloody Friday inquiry ran for 12 years 1998 to 2010 for an event that happened in 1972. and cost £192m. No one like telling Lawyer to get on with it or offer them a fixed fee. [Post edited 15 Apr 17:40]
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