Grooming gangs 13:36 - Apr 11 with 2952 views | Boundy | I see that the government are not going to insist on a national enquiry but will leave it to local councils to look into the national scandal which has been the abuse of young white girls , which imo is a disgrace in itself considering the collusion of some police officers and officials. |  |
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Grooming gangs on 19:59 - Apr 15 with 828 views | Boundy |
Grooming gangs on 17:34 - Apr 15 by ReslovenSwan1 | National enquires are like this unfortunately. The Bloody Friday inquiry ran for 12 years 1998 to 2010 for an event that happened in 1972. and cost £192m. No one like telling Lawyer to get on with it or offer them a fixed fee. [Post edited 15 Apr 17:40]
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So that sets the criteria,it'll cost too much so let's not bother , you must realise whilst my and probably your life will continue it's path to wherever,this kids have had theirs taken from them by scum who lost any rights they may have had .To do nothing is just as bigger crime than the ones committed by those who I suspect most should be sent back to the 3rd world they left behind . |  |
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Grooming gangs on 23:17 - Apr 15 with 777 views | max936 |
Grooming gangs on 19:59 - Apr 15 by Boundy | So that sets the criteria,it'll cost too much so let's not bother , you must realise whilst my and probably your life will continue it's path to wherever,this kids have had theirs taken from them by scum who lost any rights they may have had .To do nothing is just as bigger crime than the ones committed by those who I suspect most should be sent back to the 3rd world they left behind . |
You can't be surprised by those comments Boundy. Nobody knows how high these heinous crimes acts go up the ladder of the so called society. Past experience of similar cases tells us this, unfortunately there's evil everywhere and in all walks of life. I remember a chat I had with my Grandad probably 45 yrs ago now and the subject of ages came up and he said he'd rather be the age he was maybe 75 or so than 20, took me a while to understand that, but he must have been a visionary, because the more I see the more I agree with him, maybe its just my age, but still. [Post edited 15 Apr 23:18]
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Grooming gangs on 00:06 - Apr 16 with 759 views | Robbie | Any sound and reasoned debate held at the top table of politics during discussing cultural diversity and tolerance of others will be a minefield to wade through for UK Government . Starmer is giving in to any incoming theories and avoiding mention of British History . You are Prime Minister of Great Britain so do your job and do not cower under problems . Maybe the Human Rights lawyer background you have goes against the grain . Bottom line is everybody fears the racism card played , whoever dealt it is a racist . |  | |  |
Grooming gangs on 09:35 - Apr 16 with 723 views | onehunglow |
Grooming gangs on 00:06 - Apr 16 by Robbie | Any sound and reasoned debate held at the top table of politics during discussing cultural diversity and tolerance of others will be a minefield to wade through for UK Government . Starmer is giving in to any incoming theories and avoiding mention of British History . You are Prime Minister of Great Britain so do your job and do not cower under problems . Maybe the Human Rights lawyer background you have goes against the grain . Bottom line is everybody fears the racism card played , whoever dealt it is a racist . |
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Grooming gangs on 11:44 - Apr 16 with 698 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Grooming gangs on 19:59 - Apr 15 by Boundy | So that sets the criteria,it'll cost too much so let's not bother , you must realise whilst my and probably your life will continue it's path to wherever,this kids have had theirs taken from them by scum who lost any rights they may have had .To do nothing is just as bigger crime than the ones committed by those who I suspect most should be sent back to the 3rd world they left behind . |
I did not say do nothing. I am the only person raising the issue of the Police Commissioner. I raised it on her. The Police commissioner for the areas of grooming problem should be getting a very hard time. No one reads 5000 reports. Far better to grill the people responsible. The Police Commissioner. Who is the Welsh police commissioners? . They are hiding as it is a reward for political service perhaps? Action is needed here and now not in 5 years time when all the responsible people have gone. [Holding the police force to account: The PCC ensures the police force operates effectively and efficiently, meeting the needs of the community. ]. [Post edited 16 Apr 11:54]
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Grooming gangs on 14:07 - Apr 16 with 672 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Grooming gangs on 11:44 - Apr 16 by ReslovenSwan1 | I did not say do nothing. I am the only person raising the issue of the Police Commissioner. I raised it on her. The Police commissioner for the areas of grooming problem should be getting a very hard time. No one reads 5000 reports. Far better to grill the people responsible. The Police Commissioner. Who is the Welsh police commissioners? . They are hiding as it is a reward for political service perhaps? Action is needed here and now not in 5 years time when all the responsible people have gone. [Holding the police force to account: The PCC ensures the police force operates effectively and efficiently, meeting the needs of the community. ]. [Post edited 16 Apr 11:54]
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There's a whole load of politicians guilty of inaction, the Government does not want a load of Labour politicians exposed on this scandal. The truth will come out one day, but we will have to wait many years, as usual. |  |
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Grooming gangs on 15:11 - Apr 16 with 654 views | ReslovenSwan1 | If any one knows of any Grooming in south Wales here is the Police commissioner. The "Grooming cases' in the north of England were clearly assisted by white cowardice and negligence at care homes. It is up to everyone to report such horrendous incidents. Workers have mobile phone camera s at the very least. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Wools |  |
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Grooming gangs on 15:26 - Apr 16 with 646 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Grooming gangs on 15:11 - Apr 16 by ReslovenSwan1 | If any one knows of any Grooming in south Wales here is the Police commissioner. The "Grooming cases' in the north of England were clearly assisted by white cowardice and negligence at care homes. It is up to everyone to report such horrendous incidents. Workers have mobile phone camera s at the very least. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Wools |
White cowardice? Would you write black cowardice or asian cowardice? Accusing someone of a behavioural trait linked to their ethnicity is racism regardless of the ethnicity. |  |
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Grooming gangs on 16:02 - Apr 16 with 630 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Grooming gangs on 15:26 - Apr 16 by JACKMANANDBOY | White cowardice? Would you write black cowardice or asian cowardice? Accusing someone of a behavioural trait linked to their ethnicity is racism regardless of the ethnicity. |
Asian grooming gangs relied on indigenous Brits and presumably east Europeans workers not to do their civil duty and report crimes to the Police. If the Police do not act take it to the the Commissioner in writing. Cowardice is a natural human instinct in unusual scenarios. |  |
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Grooming gangs on 16:22 - Apr 16 with 623 views | Boundy |
Grooming gangs on 16:02 - Apr 16 by ReslovenSwan1 | Asian grooming gangs relied on indigenous Brits and presumably east Europeans workers not to do their civil duty and report crimes to the Police. If the Police do not act take it to the the Commissioner in writing. Cowardice is a natural human instinct in unusual scenarios. |
Reading the little information that's available i'd say the white population including father's of the children involved (threatened with arrest by the police for making a fuss) did at the the time and you must try harder because ATM you're making yourself more foolish than usual. |  |
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Grooming gangs on 17:11 - Apr 16 with 610 views | onehunglow |
Grooming gangs on 16:22 - Apr 16 by Boundy | Reading the little information that's available i'd say the white population including father's of the children involved (threatened with arrest by the police for making a fuss) did at the the time and you must try harder because ATM you're making yourself more foolish than usual. |
That said, and without crushing go break any site rules, white folk ARE afraid to speak out, certainly in public for obvious reasons They have not stood up to illegal entry by boat into this country for a start This is why Reform is on a roll and Farage and Tice gorging on the media feed |  |
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Grooming gangs on 15:13 - Apr 17 with 520 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Grooming gangs on 17:11 - Apr 16 by onehunglow | That said, and without crushing go break any site rules, white folk ARE afraid to speak out, certainly in public for obvious reasons They have not stood up to illegal entry by boat into this country for a start This is why Reform is on a roll and Farage and Tice gorging on the media feed |
It is called "cowardice" by all those non Asians and Asians that failed to do their jobs properly and make a stand. These people also should face consequences. Care home managers and staff Police politicians even taxi drivers. I like to think I personally would not have turned a blind eye. I had harsh words with a traveller who who's horse was eating the council daffodils. I reported it. [Post edited 17 Apr 15:14]
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Grooming gangs on 15:52 - Apr 17 with 485 views | SullutaCreturned |
Grooming gangs on 15:13 - Apr 17 by ReslovenSwan1 | It is called "cowardice" by all those non Asians and Asians that failed to do their jobs properly and make a stand. These people also should face consequences. Care home managers and staff Police politicians even taxi drivers. I like to think I personally would not have turned a blind eye. I had harsh words with a traveller who who's horse was eating the council daffodils. I reported it. [Post edited 17 Apr 15:14]
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Daffs are poisonous to many animals, horses included, the traveller may get his comeuppance. It's very easy to call others cowards from a distance. |  | |  |
Grooming gangs on 21:53 - Apr 17 with 452 views | theloneranger | "A paedophile ring, a mix of seven Glasgow men and women, operated in plain sight for seven years despite what may appear to be major red flags." "From 2012, a group of children, including some young enough to still be wearing nappies, were subjected to organised "rape nights" by drug users who plied them with alcohol and cocaine." https://news.sky.com/story/how-did-one-of-britains-most-shocking-paedophile-ring |  |
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Grooming gangs on 23:14 - Apr 17 with 423 views | Boundy |
and they should burn in hell as well, black white or caramel the law should brought down upon their heads bur even the rape of kids has become politicalised to the extent that justice is not being served . |  |
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Grooming gangs on 23:09 - Apr 18 with 300 views | Kilkennyjack |
Grooming gangs on 17:11 - Apr 16 by onehunglow | That said, and without crushing go break any site rules, white folk ARE afraid to speak out, certainly in public for obvious reasons They have not stood up to illegal entry by boat into this country for a start This is why Reform is on a roll and Farage and Tice gorging on the media feed |
Farage said in 2016 that if people voted Leave the uk would take back control of its borders. If he lied then, then shirley Reform are full of lies now. Farage knows little about Wales, and cares less. |  |
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Grooming gangs on 00:25 - Apr 19 with 287 views | Robbie | Can Farage do any worse than our current lot of freebie any perk you can get , nice one . Last lot lied until they could no more face the truth , Bojo and Sunak have tainted name but I suppose they are not worried by that , book sales will cover their faults . Really expected better of Labour to do help the working man , their ethos in the past . That idea is failing so fast I doubt the Labour vote will hold up at a General Election . My Political views and my precious chance to put an X on a ballot paper . I know where my vote would go at this moment . |  | |  |
Grooming gangs on 09:41 - Apr 19 with 261 views | controversial_jack |
Grooming gangs on 00:25 - Apr 19 by Robbie | Can Farage do any worse than our current lot of freebie any perk you can get , nice one . Last lot lied until they could no more face the truth , Bojo and Sunak have tainted name but I suppose they are not worried by that , book sales will cover their faults . Really expected better of Labour to do help the working man , their ethos in the past . That idea is failing so fast I doubt the Labour vote will hold up at a General Election . My Political views and my precious chance to put an X on a ballot paper . I know where my vote would go at this moment . |
You think Farage will help the working man. They want to get rid of the NHS and have even voted against workers rights. Think carefully |  | |  |
Grooming gangs on 09:43 - Apr 19 with 261 views | Scotia |
Grooming gangs on 00:25 - Apr 19 by Robbie | Can Farage do any worse than our current lot of freebie any perk you can get , nice one . Last lot lied until they could no more face the truth , Bojo and Sunak have tainted name but I suppose they are not worried by that , book sales will cover their faults . Really expected better of Labour to do help the working man , their ethos in the past . That idea is failing so fast I doubt the Labour vote will hold up at a General Election . My Political views and my precious chance to put an X on a ballot paper . I know where my vote would go at this moment . |
Farage would be a disaster. So would Rupert Lowe. |  | |  |
Grooming gangs on 10:04 - Apr 19 with 250 views | Gwyn737 |
Grooming gangs on 00:25 - Apr 19 by Robbie | Can Farage do any worse than our current lot of freebie any perk you can get , nice one . Last lot lied until they could no more face the truth , Bojo and Sunak have tainted name but I suppose they are not worried by that , book sales will cover their faults . Really expected better of Labour to do help the working man , their ethos in the past . That idea is failing so fast I doubt the Labour vote will hold up at a General Election . My Political views and my precious chance to put an X on a ballot paper . I know where my vote would go at this moment . |
Look at the fuss when the try and tax the rich? Look what happened with the farmers (yes, I know there are some poor ones) , and the winter fuel allowance for pensioners (yes, I know many struggle but as a group, they are the wealthiest in the country). |  | |  |
Grooming gangs on 10:28 - Apr 19 with 245 views | Boundy |
Grooming gangs on 10:04 - Apr 19 by Gwyn737 | Look at the fuss when the try and tax the rich? Look what happened with the farmers (yes, I know there are some poor ones) , and the winter fuel allowance for pensioners (yes, I know many struggle but as a group, they are the wealthiest in the country). |
Yep lets have a race to the bottom is it , why work all your life , pay your stamp pay into a private pension ( out of your own money by the way) ,never claim a penny off the state then when it comes to retirement made to feel guilty for all of the above. Having money creates more money but you're only allowed it if you're feckless and a scrounger. Just remember there's no such thing as Government money ,only taxpayers .Happy to give up your index linked pension for the good of others ? A new teacher joining the scheme today and working for a full 47 years would expect to receive a pension worth £27,000 and a lump sum of £180,000 (valued in today's money) The teacher's pension scheme is defined benefit and inflation-indexed Benefits are available to draw from a normal pension age of 66, or prior with early retirement |  |
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Grooming gangs on 11:04 - Apr 19 with 220 views | Gwyn737 |
Grooming gangs on 10:28 - Apr 19 by Boundy | Yep lets have a race to the bottom is it , why work all your life , pay your stamp pay into a private pension ( out of your own money by the way) ,never claim a penny off the state then when it comes to retirement made to feel guilty for all of the above. Having money creates more money but you're only allowed it if you're feckless and a scrounger. Just remember there's no such thing as Government money ,only taxpayers .Happy to give up your index linked pension for the good of others ? A new teacher joining the scheme today and working for a full 47 years would expect to receive a pension worth £27,000 and a lump sum of £180,000 (valued in today's money) The teacher's pension scheme is defined benefit and inflation-indexed Benefits are available to draw from a normal pension age of 66, or prior with early retirement |
I completely agree with you about the savings/pensions. It’s the WFA I was on about, which was incredibly poorly set out. It should have been means tested but I stand by thinking there are millions who didn’t need it. Same argument with child benefit. You rightly (imo) don’t get when you earn over x amount. As for the teacher pension, although it’s nothing like as good as it was, it’s still a fantastic benefit. If anything, it’s a bit too back loaded and isn’t keeping people in the profession. They’d be better off slimming it down and improving wages - this would help get people in in the first place. I can’t tell you how hard it is to get teachers at the moment. I also would say that 47 years is an extreme example and not really feasible, especially if you’re a Reception teacher - crawling around role play areas at 69 isn’t much fun! [Post edited 19 Apr 11:49]
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Grooming gangs on 15:26 - Apr 19 with 173 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Grooming gangs on 11:04 - Apr 19 by Gwyn737 | I completely agree with you about the savings/pensions. It’s the WFA I was on about, which was incredibly poorly set out. It should have been means tested but I stand by thinking there are millions who didn’t need it. Same argument with child benefit. You rightly (imo) don’t get when you earn over x amount. As for the teacher pension, although it’s nothing like as good as it was, it’s still a fantastic benefit. If anything, it’s a bit too back loaded and isn’t keeping people in the profession. They’d be better off slimming it down and improving wages - this would help get people in in the first place. I can’t tell you how hard it is to get teachers at the moment. I also would say that 47 years is an extreme example and not really feasible, especially if you’re a Reception teacher - crawling around role play areas at 69 isn’t much fun! [Post edited 19 Apr 11:49]
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Good future pensions is a good way of squeezing corruption out of the system. I asked my old man if he had ever taken a bribe. He was angry not that I thought that he might be bent a bit more angry that he was that stupid. He asked me what size of bribe. I said try £10k. He said piffff. You are kidding. I would have been very dumb to take that sort of money with a £20-25k pension at stake. If civil servants take bribes they risk jail and losing their pension. It is also a control system as well off course which will discourage whistle blowing. |  |
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Grooming gangs on 00:58 - Apr 20 with 121 views | Robbie |
Grooming gangs on 09:41 - Apr 19 by controversial_jack | You think Farage will help the working man. They want to get rid of the NHS and have even voted against workers rights. Think carefully |
NHS in the current state it is in is a bottomless pit of money being thrown at it and will continue in that vein until a new Managment structure sorts the mess out our hosipital and services rely on , our current Government will bang on about how great our wards are . Facts on Farage privitising the NHS , I await his election manifeto . |  | |  |
Grooming gangs on 09:07 - Apr 20 with 97 views | controversial_jack |
Grooming gangs on 00:58 - Apr 20 by Robbie | NHS in the current state it is in is a bottomless pit of money being thrown at it and will continue in that vein until a new Managment structure sorts the mess out our hosipital and services rely on , our current Government will bang on about how great our wards are . Facts on Farage privitising the NHS , I await his election manifeto . |
He's on record as saying so. |  | |  |
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