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Grooming gangs 13:36 - Apr 11 with 7222 viewsBoundy

I see that the government are not going to insist on a national enquiry but will leave it to local councils to look into the national scandal which has been the abuse of young white girls , which imo is a disgrace in itself considering the collusion of some police officers and officials.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Grooming gangs on 12:15 - Jun 15 with 915 viewsAnotherJohn

Grooming gangs on 10:39 - Jun 15 by Dr_Winston

Cass was a different report. That was the one about gender fanatics drugging and surgically mutilating disturbed young children.

This is about a different set of young children being abused by a different group of people.


Yes, it was a senior moment. I heard Louise Casey interviewed on the radio about the content of the latest report but just typed the wrong name.
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Grooming gangs on 12:44 - Jun 15 with 870 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Grooming gangs on 19:50 - Jun 14 by Dr_Winston

The Prime Minister was basically left with no choice but to announce a National Inquiry into grooming gangs even though he's been desperately trying to avoid one for political reasons.


Didn’t he very recently describe the issue as “a right wing dog whistle”?

The guy isn’t fit for the role. Hopefully this will be the end of him.

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Grooming gangs on 14:48 - Jun 15 with 824 viewsmax936

Grooming gangs on 11:04 - Apr 19 by Gwyn737

I completely agree with you about the savings/pensions. It’s the WFA I was on about, which was incredibly poorly set out. It should have been means tested but I stand by thinking there are millions who didn’t need it.

Same argument with child benefit. You rightly (imo) don’t get when you earn over x amount.

As for the teacher pension, although it’s nothing like as good as it was, it’s still a fantastic benefit. If anything, it’s a bit too back loaded and isn’t keeping people in the profession. They’d be better off slimming it down and improving wages - this would help get people in in the first place. I can’t tell you how hard it is to get teachers at the moment.

I also would say that 47 years is an extreme example and not really feasible, especially if you’re a Reception teacher - crawling around role play areas at 69 isn’t much fun!
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"I also would say that 47 years is an extreme example and not really feasible, especially if you’re a Reception teacher - crawling around role play areas at 69 isn’t much fun!"

Not really feasible for a teacher to work for 47yrs dear me, my heart bleeds for the poor dabs.

What about those who work in industry and Builders, Electricians, Plumber/Gas engineers crawling around on all fours working in tight spaces, climbing ladders, I'm in my 48th year off working in the sector of jobs above [like millions of others] and I can't officially finish until I'm virtually 67 and I've got to renew a few technical qualifications between now and then as well.
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Grooming gangs on 15:08 - Jun 15 with 803 viewsDr_Winston

Grooming gangs on 12:44 - Jun 15 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Didn’t he very recently describe the issue as “a right wing dog whistle”?

The guy isn’t fit for the role. Hopefully this will be the end of him.


Sounds like something he'd say. No doubt that he'll try to frame it as him reviewing the evidence and changing his opinion when he's clearly been against the idea from Day One. If Labour were clear in the polls we wouldn't be having one now either.

The Conservatives don't have their hands clean either. 14 years in power and they did nothing because they were a bunch of wet blankets masquerading under the Tory name.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Grooming gangs on 20:29 - Jun 15 with 759 viewsGwyn737

Grooming gangs on 14:48 - Jun 15 by max936

"I also would say that 47 years is an extreme example and not really feasible, especially if you’re a Reception teacher - crawling around role play areas at 69 isn’t much fun!"

Not really feasible for a teacher to work for 47yrs dear me, my heart bleeds for the poor dabs.

What about those who work in industry and Builders, Electricians, Plumber/Gas engineers crawling around on all fours working in tight spaces, climbing ladders, I'm in my 48th year off working in the sector of jobs above [like millions of others] and I can't officially finish until I'm virtually 67 and I've got to renew a few technical qualifications between now and then as well.
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I was only talking about very specific examples, Max.

In secondary and upper primary it’s fine. I don’t think in most cases a 69 year old can track in reception.
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Grooming gangs on 20:47 - Jun 15 with 738 viewsmax936

Grooming gangs on 20:29 - Jun 15 by Gwyn737

I was only talking about very specific examples, Max.

In secondary and upper primary it’s fine. I don’t think in most cases a 69 year old can track in reception.


Retirement age should be based on the industry they work in, 67 is to old to do the type of work like I mentioned, like many others I suffer with my joints knees in particular, back and recently neck pains.

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Grooming gangs on 21:57 - Jun 15 with 706 viewsScotia

Grooming gangs on 12:44 - Jun 15 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Didn’t he very recently describe the issue as “a right wing dog whistle”?

The guy isn’t fit for the role. Hopefully this will be the end of him.


No. He didn't.
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Grooming gangs on 22:11 - Jun 15 with 687 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Grooming gangs on 21:57 - Jun 15 by Scotia

No. He didn't.


Lucy Powell said it was a right wing dog whistle, Starmer said it was a far right bandwagon that was calling for a national inquiry, anyway he's joined the far right band wagon.

Tomorrow's announcement will be of interest to all.

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Grooming gangs on 23:20 - Jun 15 with 663 viewsBoundy

Grooming gangs on 21:57 - Jun 15 by Scotia

No. He didn't.


Yes he did and publicly.

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Grooming gangs on 23:24 - Jun 15 with 659 viewsLuther27

Grooming gangs on 22:11 - Jun 15 by JACKMANANDBOY

Lucy Powell said it was a right wing dog whistle, Starmer said it was a far right bandwagon that was calling for a national inquiry, anyway he's joined the far right band wagon.

Tomorrow's announcement will be of interest to all.


It makes you wonder what the far left are trying to protect.
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Grooming gangs on 00:12 - Jun 16 with 633 viewsRobbie

Grooming gangs on 20:47 - Jun 15 by max936

Retirement age should be based on the industry they work in, 67 is to old to do the type of work like I mentioned, like many others I suffer with my joints knees in particular, back and recently neck pains.


Got out of Industry British Steel , Corus , TATA after 48 years aged 60 , the pension scandals that followed were a nightmare for decent ex colleagues , TATA washed their hands of us .

I could not mentally and physically do a 12 hour night shift anymore with even more demands for targets to be met with less of a team , I was lucky to get out .

Public and Civil servants have a nailed on Pension scheme with a percentage rise annually without any risk to their potential interest , some might deserve it , others I very much doubt , I know a fella who rubs his hands on his monthly Civil Service payment .

There again I see folk having a mobility car without a really disabled passenger .
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Grooming gangs on 00:44 - Jun 16 with 619 viewstheloneranger

Grooming gangs on 00:12 - Jun 16 by Robbie

Got out of Industry British Steel , Corus , TATA after 48 years aged 60 , the pension scandals that followed were a nightmare for decent ex colleagues , TATA washed their hands of us .

I could not mentally and physically do a 12 hour night shift anymore with even more demands for targets to be met with less of a team , I was lucky to get out .

Public and Civil servants have a nailed on Pension scheme with a percentage rise annually without any risk to their potential interest , some might deserve it , others I very much doubt , I know a fella who rubs his hands on his monthly Civil Service payment .

There again I see folk having a mobility car without a really disabled passenger .


What's a "really disabled passenger" look like ??

Physically - mentally disabled??

Can you tell, by just looking at a person??

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Grooming gangs on 01:09 - Jun 16 with 613 viewsRobbie

Grooming gangs on 00:44 - Jun 16 by theloneranger

What's a "really disabled passenger" look like ??

Physically - mentally disabled??

Can you tell, by just looking at a person??


Lets just say I know a person is abusing the mobility car system .

The rules are the disabled person must be in the car when driven by the driver , it should only be used for that purpose .

If that rule is being abused to commuter a healthy driver alone something is wrong with the system .

And yes I see some challenging and difficult people who do need real help daily .
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Grooming gangs on 07:04 - Jun 16 with 585 viewsDr_Winston

The mobility car system is rife with abuse and long, long overdue a review.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Grooming gangs on 09:00 - Jun 16 with 534 viewsWhiterockin

Grooming gangs on 07:04 - Jun 16 by Dr_Winston

The mobility car system is rife with abuse and long, long overdue a review.


Nearly 650,000 currently on the road in the UK. There needs to be a change.
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Grooming gangs on 09:12 - Jun 16 with 514 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Grooming gangs on 22:11 - Jun 15 by JACKMANANDBOY

Lucy Powell said it was a right wing dog whistle, Starmer said it was a far right bandwagon that was calling for a national inquiry, anyway he's joined the far right band wagon.

Tomorrow's announcement will be of interest to all.


I knew it was one of the blithering idiots.

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Grooming gangs on 10:09 - Jun 16 with 483 viewsDr_Winston

Grooming gangs on 09:00 - Jun 16 by Whiterockin

Nearly 650,000 currently on the road in the UK. There needs to be a change.


There are reports of some local authorities spending significant eight figure sums every year transporting individual special needs children to school when their parents already have a mobility car.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Grooming gangs on 15:41 - Jun 16 with 397 viewsSullutaCreturned

Grooming gangs on 10:09 - Jun 16 by Dr_Winston

There are reports of some local authorities spending significant eight figure sums every year transporting individual special needs children to school when their parents already have a mobility car.


I knew there was a big spend there but I didn't think it would be 650k.

If local authorities are really spending over 10,000,000 on taxis for parents who also have free cars, that is mind boggling.
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Grooming gangs on 16:24 - Jun 16 with 372 viewstheloneranger


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Grooming gangs on 16:54 - Jun 16 with 324 viewsKilkennyjack

Grooming gangs on 23:24 - Jun 15 by Luther27

It makes you wonder what the far left are trying to protect.


The left have been in power for less than 12 months.

This is the guy whose party caused the real delays, and in his own arrogant and uncaring style.


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Grooming gangs on 17:05 - Jun 16 with 320 viewsWhiterockin

Grooming gangs on 16:54 - Jun 16 by Kilkennyjack

The left have been in power for less than 12 months.

This is the guy whose party caused the real delays, and in his own arrogant and uncaring style.



More whatsaboutary, is it all you have in defence.
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Grooming gangs on 17:40 - Jun 16 with 276 viewsDr_Winston

Grooming gangs on 17:05 - Jun 16 by Whiterockin

More whatsaboutary, is it all you have in defence.


The local authorities where most of these crimes have taken place appear to be largely Labour or Lib Dem controlled in any case.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Grooming gangs on 18:18 - Jun 16 with 241 viewsKilkennyjack

Grooming gangs on 17:05 - Jun 16 by Whiterockin

More whatsaboutary, is it all you have in defence.


No its the same topic.

And this man thought there was no need to look at these things.

On the other hand Starmer is now doing the right hing within 12 months of taking power.

No whataboutary, just facts about the Tory priorities.

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Grooming gangs on 18:48 - Jun 16 with 215 viewsraynor94

Grooming gangs on 18:18 - Jun 16 by Kilkennyjack

No its the same topic.

And this man thought there was no need to look at these things.

On the other hand Starmer is now doing the right hing within 12 months of taking power.

No whataboutary, just facts about the Tory priorities.


Doing the right thing? Yes but another u turn from Starmer he dismissed calls for a full enquirie in January

Another man who thought there was no need to look at these things

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Grooming gangs on 18:50 - Jun 16 with 212 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Those who had concerns about the victims of grooming gangs and the cover ups in local government appear not to be far right idiots after all.

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