| Miliband on 20:05 - Apr 30 with 316 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Miliband on 07:57 - Apr 30 by SullutaCreturned |
Quick update, John, the latest figures show China emits 32.88% of global CO2 which is more than twice as much as the USA. The UK currently emits 0.88% soi China emits 37 times as much as the UK with 20 times the population. |
It is a percentage and misleading. Actual tonnage is a far better guide. I suspect will drop as China modernises. Whether the percentage drop depends on the whole.
They want to be like us of even more advance than us. I have read that they are simultaneously greening desert areas and have planted 1 billion trees. The right wing never mentions this.
The right wing commentators have no imagination and want us to following current day China (without the tree planting ) not the future China they see for themselves. |  |
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| Miliband on 21:28 - Apr 30 with 273 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Miliband on 08:41 - Apr 30 by Boundy |
Grangemouth oil refinery now closed as will soon the UK ,well at least for producing for its own needs.
How to deindustrialise a nation , just put your cross in the box called Labour. |
The Tory privatisation of all our British assets is the root cause, and will never work unless its returned to public ownership.
Shite in our rivers and seas tells you they paid our money out to shareholders rather invest in the water infrastructure.
Dont start me on trains and energy. |  |
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| Miliband on 22:18 - Apr 30 with 245 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Miliband on 20:05 - Apr 30 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is a percentage and misleading. Actual tonnage is a far better guide. I suspect will drop as China modernises. Whether the percentage drop depends on the whole.
They want to be like us of even more advance than us. I have read that they are simultaneously greening desert areas and have planted 1 billion trees. The right wing never mentions this.
The right wing commentators have no imagination and want us to following current day China (without the tree planting ) not the future China they see for themselves. |
China's relationship with forestation is complex. One major issue is that what they are planting now is essentially commercial plantations that are effectively monocultures good for economic growth but destroy habitats.
https://www.ncesc.com/geographic-faq/why-is-china-cutting-down-trees/ |  |
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| Miliband on 00:40 - May 1 with 215 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
The forests still absorb carbon from the atmosphere and still generate oxygen. Diversity can be improved in later planting phases. It could be mono culture is only the first step to get a foot hold. China will care more about the environment as their wealth increases and they can afford it.
They are racing to improve wealth for their people. | |
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| Miliband on 08:41 - May 1 with 183 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Miliband on 00:40 - May 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The forests still absorb carbon from the atmosphere and still generate oxygen. Diversity can be improved in later planting phases. It could be mono culture is only the first step to get a foot hold. China will care more about the environment as their wealth increases and they can afford it.
They are racing to improve wealth for their people. |
If you want to maximise C02 efficiency you need a functioning ecosystem, monocultures destroy ecosystems and the only way to re-establish diversity would be to replace the monoculture. | |
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| Miliband on 11:52 - May 1 with 155 views | Boundy |
UK: We need to build solar panels to save the planet.
Also UK: We need to dim the sun to save the planet. |  |
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| Miliband on 13:35 - May 2 with 75 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Miliband on 11:52 - May 1 by Boundy |
UK: We need to build solar panels to save the planet.
Also UK: We need to dim the sun to save the planet. |
You are making things up. Who has said we need to dim the sun " to save the planet" ? . £50 m is being spent to carry out experiments in a controlled environment.
Net zero is common sense not some eco crackpot nonsense as it is being projected.
[Net zero means achieving a balance where the amount of greenhouse gases emitted into the atmosphere is equal to the amount removed. This is primarily achieved by reducing greenhouse gas emissions to a very low level, with any remaining emissions being balanced by carbon removal. In simpler terms, it's about no longer adding more greenhouse gases to the atmosphere than are taken away].
China and India will eventually come to this way of thinking also perhaps within my remaining lifetime. I am happy to pay a little more for clean energy but I can afford it.
The best way to do this is end burning fossil fuels which is in reality the sun's energy absorbed by the earth millions of years ago and stored in the ground.
Only really big ship and big planes require fossil fuels along with big steelworks and the like. | |
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| Miliband on 13:51 - May 2 with 61 views | Boundy |
| Miliband on 13:35 - May 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are making things up. Who has said we need to dim the sun " to save the planet" ? . £50 m is being spent to carry out experiments in a controlled environment.
Net zero is common sense not some eco crackpot nonsense as it is being projected.
[Net zero means achieving a balance where the amount of greenhouse gases emitted into the atmosphere is equal to the amount removed. This is primarily achieved by reducing greenhouse gas emissions to a very low level, with any remaining emissions being balanced by carbon removal. In simpler terms, it's about no longer adding more greenhouse gases to the atmosphere than are taken away].
China and India will eventually come to this way of thinking also perhaps within my remaining lifetime. I am happy to pay a little more for clean energy but I can afford it.
The best way to do this is end burning fossil fuels which is in reality the sun's energy absorbed by the earth millions of years ago and stored in the ground.
Only really big ship and big planes require fossil fuels along with big steelworks and the like. |
What part of what I posted is "made up" ,Do you approve of scientists ?governments controlling the amount of sunlight being made available to the population .What is the purpose of these experiments and why would anyone want to cause the potential catastrophic disruption to weather patterns and even shift rain from areas that are vital for food production. The ultimate purpose of these experiments are to "save the planet " what do you think they're for ? | |
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| Miliband on 14:06 - May 2 with 52 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Miliband on 13:35 - May 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are making things up. Who has said we need to dim the sun " to save the planet" ? . £50 m is being spent to carry out experiments in a controlled environment.
Net zero is common sense not some eco crackpot nonsense as it is being projected.
[Net zero means achieving a balance where the amount of greenhouse gases emitted into the atmosphere is equal to the amount removed. This is primarily achieved by reducing greenhouse gas emissions to a very low level, with any remaining emissions being balanced by carbon removal. In simpler terms, it's about no longer adding more greenhouse gases to the atmosphere than are taken away].
China and India will eventually come to this way of thinking also perhaps within my remaining lifetime. I am happy to pay a little more for clean energy but I can afford it.
The best way to do this is end burning fossil fuels which is in reality the sun's energy absorbed by the earth millions of years ago and stored in the ground.
Only really big ship and big planes require fossil fuels along with big steelworks and the like. |
I'm all in favour of protecting the environment but we are being played. The amount of coverage that pollution such as micro plastics gets is minimal compared to CO2 but is arguably a bigger existential threat. C02 is part of the natural order, micro plastics are not and are accumulating in the food chain exponentially.
Plant and animal diversity is another existential threat, once a species is extinct there's no going back, the drop in World insect population indicates that all ecosystems are under threat.
So when we start to truly address the systemic issues in the environment I'll be convinced that man does care. You can't make money protecting invertebrates in rainforests or stopping the wholesale use of plastics that enter water courses.
So we get told, buy an electric car and buy a heat pump, both are developing technologies that will look very different in 10 years time. Has any body published the full environmental costs of scrapping a small petrol car and replacing it with a new electric one?
I'm afraid this is not all about saving the planet as we would be getting the same attention and coverage on pollution, micro plastics and diversity as we are seeing for CO2.
Read this and tell me why it gets no coverage or attention.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/bugpocalypse-why-insect-populations-ta
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