| Welsh Independence Barry 17:45 - Apr 27 with 1775 views | CwmafanJack |
6-7000 is the official number that was said to be there. With a few recent polls in the 30 and 40% range is independence becoming a genuine answer to wales problems? Could politics in wales be about to polarise into plaid on one side vs reform on the other in a pro and anti independence issue? Interesting times |  |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 17:58 - Apr 27 with 1006 views | Whiterockin |
The same 6,000 as in the Swansea march, only just over 3,100,000 to convince. |  | | |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 18:27 - Apr 27 with 966 views | raynor94 |
6-7000 sounds like Cardiff's average gate attendance next season, a pimple on a elephants backside. |  |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:01 - Apr 27 with 934 views | SullutaCreturned |
The latest poll on April 3 said 41% BUT the poll result left out the "don't knows" which totally skews the numbers and renders the poll completely pointless and meaningless. The true number who want indy is lost in the twisting of the figures to give a better outcome.
Put another way, if 20% voted don't know then the result is 41% of 80% which comes out at around 32%. So we need to know how many said don't know to get the true result.
Basically they are being disingenuous to try and make us believe a lot of Welsh voters want indy. | | | |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:27 - Apr 27 with 911 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:01 - Apr 27 by SullutaCreturned |
The latest poll on April 3 said 41% BUT the poll result left out the "don't knows" which totally skews the numbers and renders the poll completely pointless and meaningless. The true number who want indy is lost in the twisting of the figures to give a better outcome.
Put another way, if 20% voted don't know then the result is 41% of 80% which comes out at around 32%. So we need to know how many said don't know to get the true result.
Basically they are being disingenuous to try and make us believe a lot of Welsh voters want indy. |
Which could encourage more to come out and vote against. | | | |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:32 - Apr 27 with 899 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 17:58 - Apr 27 by Whiterockin |
The same 6,000 as in the Swansea march, only just over 3,100,000 to convince. |
Except no pressure group in history targets the entire population as a measure of success.
It was an excellent turn out. 🏴
I wonder how many would march for keeping this brexit union together, given that no nation that left the British Empire has ever asked to come back. |  |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:36 - Apr 27 with 883 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:32 - Apr 27 by Kilkennyjack |
Except no pressure group in history targets the entire population as a measure of success.
It was an excellent turn out. 🏴
I wonder how many would march for keeping this brexit union together, given that no nation that left the British Empire has ever asked to come back. |
Nobody needs to March to keep Brexit in place. | | | |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:37 - Apr 27 with 875 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:01 - Apr 27 by SullutaCreturned |
The latest poll on April 3 said 41% BUT the poll result left out the "don't knows" which totally skews the numbers and renders the poll completely pointless and meaningless. The true number who want indy is lost in the twisting of the figures to give a better outcome.
Put another way, if 20% voted don't know then the result is 41% of 80% which comes out at around 32%. So we need to know how many said don't know to get the true result.
Basically they are being disingenuous to try and make us believe a lot of Welsh voters want indy. |
You just dont like the result.
This is standard polling practice.
You may have heard … ‘for those who expressed an opinion’ …. In every election since polling started.
Its not the 41% that should make you BritNats tremble.
Its the 70% in the under 30’s.
You have lost, this is just our future playing out.
The young are confident and they will prevail.
Brexit broke Britain, its done already. | |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:41 - Apr 27 with 861 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:36 - Apr 27 by Whiterockin |
Nobody needs to March to keep Brexit in place. |
Starmer will realign us slowly but surely, might not even need a vote.
Barriers to trade have to go, simple as that …. 🏴🤝🇪🇺
I was not on about Brexit though, i want to see a march in favour of the union.
Never been one because nobody wants it.
You could hold it in a Lidl car park … | |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:43 - Apr 27 with 854 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:41 - Apr 27 by Kilkennyjack |
Starmer will realign us slowly but surely, might not even need a vote.
Barriers to trade have to go, simple as that …. 🏴🤝🇪🇺
I was not on about Brexit though, i want to see a march in favour of the union.
Never been one because nobody wants it.
You could hold it in a Lidl car park … |
Starmer will not be in power long enough. | | | |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:49 - Apr 27 with 825 views | raynor94 |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:37 - Apr 27 by Kilkennyjack |
You just dont like the result.
This is standard polling practice.
You may have heard … ‘for those who expressed an opinion’ …. In every election since polling started.
Its not the 41% that should make you BritNats tremble.
Its the 70% in the under 30’s.
You have lost, this is just our future playing out.
The young are confident and they will prevail.
Brexit broke Britain, its done already. |
I can confidently say we will never see an independent Wales in our lifetime, 25 years of a Welsh government has assured this | |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:56 - Apr 27 with 809 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:49 - Apr 27 by raynor94 |
I can confidently say we will never see an independent Wales in our lifetime, 25 years of a Welsh government has assured this |
Did you predict 70% of the under 30’s would back Indy ? | |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:58 - Apr 27 with 807 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:43 - Apr 27 by Whiterockin |
Starmer will not be in power long enough. |
He has a huge majority.
I take your point though, he has inherited the worst situation of any PM in our lifetimes.
Andy Burnham made the very same point earlier. | |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 20:07 - Apr 27 with 794 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:58 - Apr 27 by Kilkennyjack |
He has a huge majority.
I take your point though, he has inherited the worst situation of any PM in our lifetimes.
Andy Burnham made the very same point earlier. |
Let's see how Runcorn goes. Labour had a majority of 14,700 last July, will it be cut or overturned. | | | |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 20:12 - Apr 27 with 775 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 20:07 - Apr 27 by Whiterockin |
Let's see how Runcorn goes. Labour had a majority of 14,700 last July, will it be cut or overturned. |
You will need 157 Runcorn’s such is the Starmer majority. | |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 20:13 - Apr 27 with 757 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 20:12 - Apr 27 by Kilkennyjack |
You will need 157 Runcorn’s such is the Starmer majority. |
One at a time, the British public are really annoyed with Labour, they will be voted out in Wales. | | | |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 20:52 - Apr 27 with 714 views | Scotia |
I heard they had a personal address from DJ Provoi from the band Kneecap too.
Independence is one (moronic) idea, inviting a terrorist sympathiser to spout anti English garbage just means the entire march loses credibility.
The same 6000 will be in the next place this time next year. | | | |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 21:06 - Apr 27 with 695 views | raynor94 |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:56 - Apr 27 by Kilkennyjack |
Did you predict 70% of the under 30’s would back Indy ? |
That's not that 1000 people polled again | |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 22:14 - Apr 27 with 618 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 20:52 - Apr 27 by Scotia |
I heard they had a personal address from DJ Provoi from the band Kneecap too.
Independence is one (moronic) idea, inviting a terrorist sympathiser to spout anti English garbage just means the entire march loses credibility.
The same 6000 will be in the next place this time next year. |
My son's brother in law goes on all the demonstrations he can, he loves the day out and has a group of friends that travel together. |  |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 08:05 - Apr 28 with 493 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 22:14 - Apr 27 by JACKMANANDBOY |
My son's brother in law goes on all the demonstrations he can, he loves the day out and has a group of friends that travel together. |
Thanks for sharing …. | |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 11:06 - Apr 28 with 431 views | Boundy |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 20:12 - Apr 27 by Kilkennyjack |
You will need 157 Runcorn’s such is the Starmer majority. |
Small beginnings come large results, people in general of this one great country have had their eyes opened ,beit independence or otherwise , it may happen but not in my lifetime and labour will not get a second term in office ,book mark this if you will . | |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 11:11 - Apr 28 with 428 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 08:05 - Apr 28 by Kilkennyjack |
Thanks for sharing …. |
The "English know best" sentiments are losing ground. Uncontrolled immigration a Monarchy doing what it like above the law with a criminal given protection.
A failure to even build a straight forward railway line with no mountains. Northerners do not count. London centric with people concerned only with property values. A bloated over generous welfare system where the taxpayer is responsible for looking after children of runaway fathers..
The taxpayer has to keep people warm during global warming where people tell me below 10c is a problem for asthma sufferers.
The Brexit calamity and voter going back for more. Creeping Islamisation with Sharia law allowed. It strike me as somewhat unwise.
English liberal values has not been good for Welsh youth in the valleys with a soft approach to recreational drugs. This has created an underclass that is unemployable.
Stupidity by Swansea own fans see feral teenagers bad mouthing Wales with lurid chanting while chubby middle aged well educated look on and giggle. Yuk. [Post edited 28 Apr 11:13]
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 17:42 - Apr 28 with 339 views | johnlangy |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:41 - Apr 27 by Kilkennyjack |
Starmer will realign us slowly but surely, might not even need a vote.
Barriers to trade have to go, simple as that …. 🏴🤝🇪🇺
I was not on about Brexit though, i want to see a march in favour of the union.
Never been one because nobody wants it.
You could hold it in a Lidl car park … |
Apparently details of the latest realignment agreement will be coming out after the local elections.
Brilliant. Can't wait. Closer the better. | | | |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 17:43 - Apr 28 with 339 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 11:06 - Apr 28 by Boundy |
Small beginnings come large results, people in general of this one great country have had their eyes opened ,beit independence or otherwise , it may happen but not in my lifetime and labour will not get a second term in office ,book mark this if you will . |
Yes Indy was stick in the teens for many years, now its up to 41%.
From small beginnings indeed. | |
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| Welsh Independence Barry on 17:47 - Apr 28 with 337 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 19:37 - Apr 27 by Kilkennyjack |
You just dont like the result.
This is standard polling practice.
You may have heard … ‘for those who expressed an opinion’ …. In every election since polling started.
Its not the 41% that should make you BritNats tremble.
Its the 70% in the under 30’s.
You have lost, this is just our future playing out.
The young are confident and they will prevail.
Brexit broke Britain, its done already. |
The result is irrelevant because it's a lie, 41% of Welsh voters do not want indy and that is an irrefutable fact. Until they release the full survey result then the outcome is just wrong and whether I like it or not it doesn't matter.
What you have done there is confirm other posts of mine where I've said polls and surveys and not accurate and can never be taken as fact.
That 70% in the under 30's won't be 70% either, until they give us the number of don't knows we don't know the true figure.
The last paragraph is just more nonsense as you will never understand or accept that people's opinions change as they get older. As I've told you before, myself and my froends were all ardent indy fans until we grew up and under 30's, especially these days, have a lot of growing up to do.
The result is a distortion of the truth. | | | |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 17:48 - Apr 28 with 337 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Independence Barry on 11:11 - Apr 28 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The "English know best" sentiments are losing ground. Uncontrolled immigration a Monarchy doing what it like above the law with a criminal given protection.
A failure to even build a straight forward railway line with no mountains. Northerners do not count. London centric with people concerned only with property values. A bloated over generous welfare system where the taxpayer is responsible for looking after children of runaway fathers..
The taxpayer has to keep people warm during global warming where people tell me below 10c is a problem for asthma sufferers.
The Brexit calamity and voter going back for more. Creeping Islamisation with Sharia law allowed. It strike me as somewhat unwise.
English liberal values has not been good for Welsh youth in the valleys with a soft approach to recreational drugs. This has created an underclass that is unemployable.
Stupidity by Swansea own fans see feral teenagers bad mouthing Wales with lurid chanting while chubby middle aged well educated look on and giggle. Yuk. [Post edited 28 Apr 11:13]
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Yes, its a failed model that will not survive.
You make good points and valid observations. | |
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