| New US/UK trade deal 22:51 - May 8 with 1383 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
I was hoping we could send Megan Markle and John Oliver back as part of it, but it's a start.
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| New US/UK trade deal on 09:37 - May 9 with 769 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
The vote was 2016.. A partial deal in 2025 NINE years later. I recall Gove telling us it would be a piece of cake. |  |
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| New US/UK trade deal on 12:30 - May 9 with 741 views | Boundy |
| New US/UK trade deal on 09:37 - May 9 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The vote was 2016.. A partial deal in 2025 NINE years later. I recall Gove telling us it would be a piece of cake. |
But its here , mostly in the US's favour but then look who Trump was dealing with.
Talking about trade deals I notice no ones mentioned the deal made between the UK and India ,what a deal that is.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/video/india-trade-deal-to-boost-immigration/vi-AA [Post edited 9 May 12:33]
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| New US/UK trade deal on 12:41 - May 9 with 713 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Brexiteers were warned UK would be negotiating from a position of weakness when doing deals on their own. I worked overseas I Turkiye and never paid any tax there or the UK.
The Indian workers coming are like UK expatriates. The Indians on fixed contracts will pay income tax. We need more r taxpayers and less people in benefits. Brexit kicked out the young Europeans. | |
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| New US/UK trade deal on 12:44 - May 9 with 693 views | Kilkennyjack |
Brexit = -4% to our economy, hitting jobs, inflation and travel.
India trade deal = (upto) +0.1% to our economy over 15 years.
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| New US/UK trade deal on 14:20 - May 9 with 680 views | Gwyn737 |
It's only really in Trump's favour in that it dails back some of the stupidly imposed tarrifs.
The India deal was commeted on here at length, especially the ridiculous way it was reported in the right wing press. | | | |
| New US/UK trade deal on 15:26 - May 9 with 665 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| New US/UK trade deal on 14:20 - May 9 by Gwyn737 |
It's only really in Trump's favour in that it dails back some of the stupidly imposed tarrifs.
The India deal was commeted on here at length, especially the ridiculous way it was reported in the right wing press. |
Trump seems to be using the oldest salesman tactic there is, to create dissatisfaction then satisfaction. We think we've done well with the US/UK deal but we were better off before ' Liberation Day '. |  |
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| New US/UK trade deal on 15:42 - May 9 with 659 views | Gwyn737 |
| New US/UK trade deal on 15:26 - May 9 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Trump seems to be using the oldest salesman tactic there is, to create dissatisfaction then satisfaction. We think we've done well with the US/UK deal but we were better off before ' Liberation Day '. |
I'm really pleased that we're standing our ground on food standards.
It's only the start but as you say, it's a pretty decent one.
On this occasion it's not been hijacked like the Indian deal did by the media. Stiil so disappoined by how many got suckered in by the way it was presented. | | | |
| New US/UK trade deal on 15:42 - May 9 with 659 views | Boundy |
| New US/UK trade deal on 14:20 - May 9 by Gwyn737 |
It's only really in Trump's favour in that it dails back some of the stupidly imposed tarrifs.
The India deal was commeted on here at length, especially the ridiculous way it was reported in the right wing press. |
Is it not true that Indian workers coming here to work for Indian companies will not be paying national insurance as will the employers ? | |
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| New US/UK trade deal on 15:52 - May 9 with 652 views | Gwyn737 |
| New US/UK trade deal on 15:42 - May 9 by Boundy |
Is it not true that Indian workers coming here to work for Indian companies will not be paying national insurance as will the employers ? |
Taken out of context, yes.
In context it's the same agreement we have with around 50 other countries to avoid double taxation - they pay their tax in their home country (as our workers would in the reverse.
Also the costs to Indian companies to second workers over means numbers are likely to be limited. And there's a three year limit.
There are stacks of positives from that deal, yet the above has become the focus. Sadly. | | | |
| New US/UK trade deal on 16:07 - May 9 with 644 views | SullutaCreturned |
What Trump has done is inadvertently brought Europe closer together.
What Trump's tariffs mean is that imported products will be more expensive, his tax pating Americans will have to poay more to buy imported goods. It may affect sales a bit but it's not a tax on UK companies. | | | |
| New US/UK trade deal on 16:40 - May 9 with 624 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
It is political play thing. This is from fullfact.org
Who will be exempt from National Insurance?
Alongside the free trade agreement, the UK and India have agreed to negotiate a reciprocal Double Contributions Convention (DCC), which exempts some workers, and their employers, from making National Insurance contributions (NICs) for up to three years.
The National Insurance exemption does not apply to all Indian nationals working in the UK—though this hasn’t been made clear in some of the claims we’ve seen about the new rules.
According to trade minister Douglas Alexander, the deal will apply only to a “specific and limited” group of workers—employees from firms with operations in both the UK and India, seconded temporarily from one country to another. The exemption does not apply to Indian nationals whose employers are based only in the UK.
The exemption is reciprocal and will therefore also apply to British workers similarly seconded by their companies to work in India, meaning they won’t have to make Indian social security payments for up to three years.
This type of arrangement is not unique to the Indian trade agreement. The UK currently has DCCs with Chile, Japan and South Korea, and agreements covering social security contributions and benefit entitlements with around 50 countries. In addition, it already exempts all foreign temporary workers from one year of NICs.
Although the deal means some Indian workers will be exempt from paying NICs in the UK for up to three years, it specifies that this has no impact on the requirement to pay the UK immigration health surcharge. This enables immigrants to use the NHS free of charge during their time in the UK, and currently costs £1,035 per year.
It’s also worth noting visas for such temporary workers are usually issued with a “no recourse to public funds” condition, preventing those workers from claiming most benefits, including tax credits and housing assistance.
I hope that helps. Remember these people will be mostly young and pretty healthy so will not use the NHS anyway.
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| New US/UK trade deal on 16:43 - May 9 with 620 views | Gwyn737 |
| New US/UK trade deal on 16:40 - May 9 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is political play thing. This is from fullfact.org
Who will be exempt from National Insurance?
Alongside the free trade agreement, the UK and India have agreed to negotiate a reciprocal Double Contributions Convention (DCC), which exempts some workers, and their employers, from making National Insurance contributions (NICs) for up to three years.
The National Insurance exemption does not apply to all Indian nationals working in the UK—though this hasn’t been made clear in some of the claims we’ve seen about the new rules.
According to trade minister Douglas Alexander, the deal will apply only to a “specific and limited” group of workers—employees from firms with operations in both the UK and India, seconded temporarily from one country to another. The exemption does not apply to Indian nationals whose employers are based only in the UK.
The exemption is reciprocal and will therefore also apply to British workers similarly seconded by their companies to work in India, meaning they won’t have to make Indian social security payments for up to three years.
This type of arrangement is not unique to the Indian trade agreement. The UK currently has DCCs with Chile, Japan and South Korea, and agreements covering social security contributions and benefit entitlements with around 50 countries. In addition, it already exempts all foreign temporary workers from one year of NICs.
Although the deal means some Indian workers will be exempt from paying NICs in the UK for up to three years, it specifies that this has no impact on the requirement to pay the UK immigration health surcharge. This enables immigrants to use the NHS free of charge during their time in the UK, and currently costs £1,035 per year.
It’s also worth noting visas for such temporary workers are usually issued with a “no recourse to public funds” condition, preventing those workers from claiming most benefits, including tax credits and housing assistance.
I hope that helps. Remember these people will be mostly young and pretty healthy so will not use the NHS anyway.
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It’s more than a political plaything. It’s a culture wars wedge designed to stir the anger of those who can only see things through the prism of immigration.
Lee Anderson literal campaign strategy was based on such things.
The politics of hate. | | | |
| New US/UK trade deal on 16:50 - May 9 with 601 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| New US/UK trade deal on 16:43 - May 9 by Gwyn737 |
It’s more than a political plaything. It’s a culture wars wedge designed to stir the anger of those who can only see things through the prism of immigration.
Lee Anderson literal campaign strategy was based on such things.
The politics of hate. |
Fair point. I accept your comment. From what I can see the like of Farage booted out the Europeans young people to replace them with these Asians. They do not have the rights like European had for settlement or benefits.
They could apply later of course. UK has it seems failed to educate a sufficient number of UK young people and en-grain in them a solid work ethic. | |
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| New US/UK trade deal on 16:51 - May 9 with 604 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| New US/UK trade deal on 15:42 - May 9 by Gwyn737 |
I'm really pleased that we're standing our ground on food standards.
It's only the start but as you say, it's a pretty decent one.
On this occasion it's not been hijacked like the Indian deal did by the media. Stiil so disappoined by how many got suckered in by the way it was presented. |
It's the modern way, a lot of the detail in the US/UK deal is yet to be decided/ published. | |
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| New US/UK trade deal on 16:57 - May 9 with 603 views | Gwyn737 |
| New US/UK trade deal on 16:40 - May 9 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is political play thing. This is from fullfact.org
Who will be exempt from National Insurance?
Alongside the free trade agreement, the UK and India have agreed to negotiate a reciprocal Double Contributions Convention (DCC), which exempts some workers, and their employers, from making National Insurance contributions (NICs) for up to three years.
The National Insurance exemption does not apply to all Indian nationals working in the UK—though this hasn’t been made clear in some of the claims we’ve seen about the new rules.
According to trade minister Douglas Alexander, the deal will apply only to a “specific and limited” group of workers—employees from firms with operations in both the UK and India, seconded temporarily from one country to another. The exemption does not apply to Indian nationals whose employers are based only in the UK.
The exemption is reciprocal and will therefore also apply to British workers similarly seconded by their companies to work in India, meaning they won’t have to make Indian social security payments for up to three years.
This type of arrangement is not unique to the Indian trade agreement. The UK currently has DCCs with Chile, Japan and South Korea, and agreements covering social security contributions and benefit entitlements with around 50 countries. In addition, it already exempts all foreign temporary workers from one year of NICs.
Although the deal means some Indian workers will be exempt from paying NICs in the UK for up to three years, it specifies that this has no impact on the requirement to pay the UK immigration health surcharge. This enables immigrants to use the NHS free of charge during their time in the UK, and currently costs £1,035 per year.
It’s also worth noting visas for such temporary workers are usually issued with a “no recourse to public funds” condition, preventing those workers from claiming most benefits, including tax credits and housing assistance.
I hope that helps. Remember these people will be mostly young and pretty healthy so will not use the NHS anyway.
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It’s more than a political plaything. It’s a culture wars wedge designed to stir the anger of those who can only see things through the prism of immigration.
Lee Anderson literal campaign strategy was based on such things.
The politics of hate. | | | |
| New US/UK trade deal on 17:21 - May 9 with 595 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| New US/UK trade deal on 16:57 - May 9 by Gwyn737 |
It’s more than a political plaything. It’s a culture wars wedge designed to stir the anger of those who can only see things through the prism of immigration.
Lee Anderson literal campaign strategy was based on such things.
The politics of hate. |
It is present of both sides of the argument, people who raise questions about immigration are called far right by left wing politicians. | |
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| New US/UK trade deal on 18:07 - May 9 with 568 views | AnotherJohn |
The overall shape of the US/UK deal revealed so far is rather disappointing, but I'm hopeful that it will bring benefits over time. It is a foot in the door, and there are certain British potential concessions like the digital services tax held in reserve for future trade offs. Also, provided the 10% tariff on our goods remains lower than that on the goods of competitors our exports to the USA could still increase. | | | |
| New US/UK trade deal on 20:22 - May 9 with 527 views | Boundy |
| New US/UK trade deal on 15:52 - May 9 by Gwyn737 |
Taken out of context, yes.
In context it's the same agreement we have with around 50 other countries to avoid double taxation - they pay their tax in their home country (as our workers would in the reverse.
Also the costs to Indian companies to second workers over means numbers are likely to be limited. And there's a three year limit.
There are stacks of positives from that deal, yet the above has become the focus. Sadly. |
Thanks for the explanation | |
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| New US/UK trade deal on 21:58 - May 9 with 502 views | Flashberryjack |
It's easy to make deals when you are giving more than you are getting.
Chagos, India and now America, Starmer is playing a blinder. |  |
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| New US/UK trade deal on 09:46 - May 10 with 423 views | Boundy |
| New US/UK trade deal on 21:58 - May 9 by Flashberryjack |
It's easy to make deals when you are giving more than you are getting.
Chagos, India and now America, Starmer is playing a blinder. |
A world statesman who will take this country into a new direction ,mark my words . | |
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| New US/UK trade deal on 10:09 - May 10 with 405 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| New US/UK trade deal on 09:46 - May 10 by Boundy |
A world statesman who will take this country into a new direction ,mark my words . |
I think Trump could overhaul US food standards. He like a revolution. Starmer would have told him US food standards are way below ours a legacy of the EU presumably.
RFK the Kennedy with a croaky voice had been telling Trump the same. In suggested an upgrade in US food standards in an off the cuff comment talking about chlorination practices. Glycophosphate is also very controversial.
He could with a stroke of a pen take up EU standards.
By doing this he would open huge markets for US farmers while giving them a major headache ( presumably) to achieve conformance. That would be right up his street.
He wants to leave e a list of things in his legacy and improved food standards would be one of them | |
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| New US/UK trade deal on 13:56 - May 10 with 371 views | Gwyn737 |
| New US/UK trade deal on 21:58 - May 9 by Flashberryjack |
It's easy to make deals when you are giving more than you are getting.
Chagos, India and now America, Starmer is playing a blinder. |
What do you think is bad about the India deal?
Plenty of things to blame Starmer for, I can’t see how the India or the initial US fall into that catagory. | | | |
| New US/UK trade deal on 15:18 - May 10 with 358 views | max936 |
| New US/UK trade deal on 17:21 - May 9 by JACKMANANDBOY |
It is present of both sides of the argument, people who raise questions about immigration are called far right by left wing politicians. |
Correct, I don't agree that its politics of hate either, its costing the taxpayers millions, billions even, pensioners and the disabled have been unjustly hit to pay for this so called black hole, well that hole is getting deeper and wider all the time, where's it all going to end.
I detest Farage and his party, but there's a lot being said that is the truth. |  |
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| New US/UK trade deal on 15:39 - May 10 with 347 views | builthjack |
Farmers have wanted a beef deal with the USA for years.
The Tories failed time and time again.
Well done Starmer. You did what the Tories failed to do.
He also stopped the chlorine chicken coming in which Johnson, and now Farage, would have settled for. [Post edited 10 May 15:40]
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| New US/UK trade deal on 16:08 - May 10 with 317 views | max936 |
| New US/UK trade deal on 21:58 - May 9 by Flashberryjack |
It's easy to make deals when you are giving more than you are getting.
Chagos, India and now America, Starmer is playing a blinder. |
Giving billions of tax payers money away. What was that about a black hole in finances, mans out of his depth. | |
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