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Axel Rudakubana 22:26 - May 9 with 918 viewsraynor94

Been disclosed he's attacked a prison officer at Belmarsh prison, who needed hospital treatment.

Surely it's time for capital punishment for scum like this

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Axel Rudakubana on 22:37 - May 9 with 892 viewsonehunglow

I remembering a forum luminary or two informing me it was immoral for State to take a life
I argue it is immoral not to with animals like this
Until we front up and get brave this will continue
Either we protect the public or we don't

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Axel Rudakubana on 22:43 - May 9 with 881 viewsunion_jack

No solitary and natural justice will take its course.

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Axel Rudakubana on 06:54 - May 10 with 813 viewsAnotherJohn

I wonder whether we need a tougher regime for the most dangerous prisoners. The progressive policies that have led to a softer life inside for offenders like Rudakubana are translating into greater risk to prison officers and public disillusionment, so that a big shake-up is needed.
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Axel Rudakubana on 08:24 - May 10 with 782 viewsraynor94

Axel Rudakubana on 22:43 - May 9 by union_jack

No solitary and natural justice will take its course.


If capital punishment isn't an option, then ĥe should be in solitary for the rest of his life.

We should take some tips from America concerning prisons

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Axel Rudakubana on 09:24 - May 10 with 751 viewsunion_jack

Axel Rudakubana on 08:24 - May 10 by raynor94

If capital punishment isn't an option, then ĥe should be in solitary for the rest of his life.

We should take some tips from America concerning prisons


I’d rather not have to pay to keep him there to be honest Rayns. Eliminate the problem.

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Axel Rudakubana on 09:43 - May 10 with 730 viewsBoundy

I used to carry out risk assessments as part of my role ,even for the most mundane tasks such as carrying boxes from one building to another so it does surprise me that a convicted murderer of 3 babies ( mustn't call him a terrorist even though the kids much have been terrorised) is allowed to have the the ability of being able to scald a prison officer is beyond belief. I always thought prison was meant to be a punishment ,although in his case no amount of time in his cell will ever make up for what he did. After the other recent attack on officers the more so called intelligent amongst us would have carried out a review on the risks for officers, it seems not.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Axel Rudakubana on 10:02 - May 10 with 711 viewsunion_jack

Axel Rudakubana on 09:43 - May 10 by Boundy

I used to carry out risk assessments as part of my role ,even for the most mundane tasks such as carrying boxes from one building to another so it does surprise me that a convicted murderer of 3 babies ( mustn't call him a terrorist even though the kids much have been terrorised) is allowed to have the the ability of being able to scald a prison officer is beyond belief. I always thought prison was meant to be a punishment ,although in his case no amount of time in his cell will ever make up for what he did. After the other recent attack on officers the more so called intelligent amongst us would have carried out a review on the risks for officers, it seems not.


Unbelievable isn’t it?

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Axel Rudakubana on 10:10 - May 10 with 704 viewsAnotherJohn

US "Super-Max" style regime would fit the bill - bit galling I know to spend money on keeping offenders like this alive.
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Axel Rudakubana on 10:19 - May 10 with 697 viewsReslovenSwan1

I am a big fan of forced labour. I cannot see anything wrong with it. The nation did it in the past. All it needs is organisation and a secure environment..

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Axel Rudakubana on 10:24 - May 10 with 688 viewsunion_jack

Axel Rudakubana on 10:19 - May 10 by ReslovenSwan1

I am a big fan of forced labour. I cannot see anything wrong with it. The nation did it in the past. All it needs is organisation and a secure environment..


Me too. Bring in the chain gangs and put them to good use.

That said, people like this beaut would just refuse probably. What do you do then?

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Axel Rudakubana on 10:34 - May 10 with 678 viewsonehunglow

Axel Rudakubana on 10:24 - May 10 by union_jack

Me too. Bring in the chain gangs and put them to good use.

That said, people like this beaut would just refuse probably. What do you do then?


This subject is the key reason we have no justice and why society is going to hell in a hand cart
You don't have to look far to read of fears of
Bent police
Or
Miscarriages of justice

As reasons to keep killers alive and well


This is fundamental

Many believe State morally should not kill killers , no matter what
I'd hate to think that

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Axel Rudakubana on 12:04 - May 10 with 633 viewsGwyn737

I’m would have no issue in this scumbag being killed by the state.

What I do have an issue with is the result of doing so would see innocent people killed and guilty people getting off.

That’s why we shouldn’t do it.
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Axel Rudakubana on 12:18 - May 10 with 612 viewsDr_Winston

I'd be more inclined to use capital punishment on persistent and repeat offenders. Those who turn the lives of people around them into misery. You see them in the paper all the time. Scumbags with 40/50/60 previous convictions. Once you get past twenty you begin to think that a painless injection would be the kindest thing all round. Nobody would really miss them.

As for people like Rudakubana, I'd be more inclined to keep him alive and suffering for as long as possible. Spending the rest of his hopefully long natural life in a Supermax style cell, chained like an animal on the rare occasions that he's allowed outside it. That's justice for me.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Axel Rudakubana on 12:19 - May 10 with 611 viewsraynor94

Axel Rudakubana on 12:04 - May 10 by Gwyn737

I’m would have no issue in this scumbag being killed by the state.

What I do have an issue with is the result of doing so would see innocent people killed and guilty people getting off.

That’s why we shouldn’t do it.


Maybe not across the board, but in cases like this and Abedi where guilt is beyond all doubt, I don't see a problem.

Nobody will convince me Rudakubana wasn't radicalised, and it was an act of terrorism in Southport in my opinion

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Axel Rudakubana on 12:36 - May 10 with 600 viewsGwyn737

Axel Rudakubana on 12:19 - May 10 by raynor94

Maybe not across the board, but in cases like this and Abedi where guilt is beyond all doubt, I don't see a problem.

Nobody will convince me Rudakubana wasn't radicalised, and it was an act of terrorism in Southport in my opinion


Where do you draw the line of beyond all guilt?

How do you decide what crimes are either side of the line?

What does that mean for those below that line? Let them off?

Look at America, capital punishment can take decades and millions to have in place. It’s not the cheap option some seem to think it is.
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Axel Rudakubana on 13:09 - May 10 with 586 viewsReslovenSwan1

Axel Rudakubana on 10:24 - May 10 by union_jack

Me too. Bring in the chain gangs and put them to good use.

That said, people like this beaut would just refuse probably. What do you do then?


He sits down doing nothing in the sun and eventually wil ask for a cup of water. He will then be subjected to an act of kindness and find a road to partial understanding of team work.

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Axel Rudakubana on 18:08 - May 10 with 492 viewsBoundy

Axel Rudakubana on 12:36 - May 10 by Gwyn737

Where do you draw the line of beyond all guilt?

How do you decide what crimes are either side of the line?

What does that mean for those below that line? Let them off?

Look at America, capital punishment can take decades and millions to have in place. It’s not the cheap option some seem to think it is.


If a person such as this piece of trash was caught weapons in hand ,his DNA matched anything associated with the crime and gave a confession then without doubt he should be disposed of, if that means we have to create another level of the murder charge which has all the criteria mentioned above.In any other circumstances where the perpetrator has to face a jury then that should remain .IMO

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Axel Rudakubana on 18:19 - May 10 with 482 viewsKeithHaynes

Axel Rudakubana on 12:19 - May 10 by raynor94

Maybe not across the board, but in cases like this and Abedi where guilt is beyond all doubt, I don't see a problem.

Nobody will convince me Rudakubana wasn't radicalised, and it was an act of terrorism in Southport in my opinion


Albeit a satisfying one.

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Axel Rudakubana on 02:24 - May 11 with 332 viewsRobbie

The Don wants to reopen Alcatraz in San Francsico Bay , bit of a climb down but will still keep Guantalomo as his go to babbies place of residence .

Electric chair and controlled posioning still accepted in some States over The Pond .

Maybe the UK is so frightened of mistaken identity and a death resulting later the answer for awful crime is the perpertrator chucked in the slammer at the tax payers expense .

Just why are not tough on criminals in the UK , early release for being a good lad or a smack on the wrist .

Whatever happened to ASBO s , that worked well .
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