| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 12:39 - Jun 2 with 1804 views | felly1 |
Appreciate your a Bazunu fan Nick.
One of a tiny minority I'd imagine.
Yes we had that great unbeaten run with him in goal where we basically won and drew a load of games against pretty mediocre Championship sides apart from the Leeds home win the rest were fodder.
The majority of us who don't rate Bazunu would base this on his performances where he looked far from convincing either with crosses or dealing with shots.
This is backed up by the stats that had him as the worst shots to saves ratio of any keeper in the Championship.
12m spent on a 20 year old L1 keeper and making him first choice was utter madness.
As for the rest of the loanees, yep I think they may all contribute something positive next season. |  | |  |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 14:12 - Jun 2 with 1674 views | SaintNick |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 12:39 - Jun 2 by felly1 |
Appreciate your a Bazunu fan Nick.
One of a tiny minority I'd imagine.
Yes we had that great unbeaten run with him in goal where we basically won and drew a load of games against pretty mediocre Championship sides apart from the Leeds home win the rest were fodder.
The majority of us who don't rate Bazunu would base this on his performances where he looked far from convincing either with crosses or dealing with shots.
This is backed up by the stats that had him as the worst shots to saves ratio of any keeper in the Championship.
12m spent on a 20 year old L1 keeper and making him first choice was utter madness.
As for the rest of the loanees, yep I think they may all contribute something positive next season. |
We won 17 and drew 6 of those games, it doesnt matter who the opposition were, they had to be beaten.
I wouldnt think I am one of a minority, most people i speak to think Bazunu is a perfectly adequate Championship keeper, although they are not so sure he is Premier League standard.
That is what we need him to be a Championship level keeper, nothing else, I wouldnt imagine there will be many better keepers in the division next year.
The majority of those that I have seen slag off Bazunu also tend to lambast KWP & Manning for poor defending and likewise Jack Stephens and to a lesser extent Jan Bednarek.
Yet give Bazunu no leeway for this
Having the worst shots to goals ratio isnt the be all and all of whether a keeper is good or not, keepers with top teams dont let many goals in, but they have less shots to save so can have a high ratio of goals conceded compared to shots faced.
I agree throwing a 20 year old keeper into the Premier League was madness, but he is not a 20 year old anymore and he is not playing in the premier League for the coming season.
Based on your way of looking at things Tim Flowers should have been given the boot fairly early in his Saints career, |  |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 16:42 - Jun 2 with 1543 views | Butty101 |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 14:12 - Jun 2 by SaintNick |
We won 17 and drew 6 of those games, it doesnt matter who the opposition were, they had to be beaten.
I wouldnt think I am one of a minority, most people i speak to think Bazunu is a perfectly adequate Championship keeper, although they are not so sure he is Premier League standard.
That is what we need him to be a Championship level keeper, nothing else, I wouldnt imagine there will be many better keepers in the division next year.
The majority of those that I have seen slag off Bazunu also tend to lambast KWP & Manning for poor defending and likewise Jack Stephens and to a lesser extent Jan Bednarek.
Yet give Bazunu no leeway for this
Having the worst shots to goals ratio isnt the be all and all of whether a keeper is good or not, keepers with top teams dont let many goals in, but they have less shots to save so can have a high ratio of goals conceded compared to shots faced.
I agree throwing a 20 year old keeper into the Premier League was madness, but he is not a 20 year old anymore and he is not playing in the premier League for the coming season.
Based on your way of looking at things Tim Flowers should have been given the boot fairly early in his Saints career, |
Baz wasnt having a great time at Standard Liege before injury. He had played 8 and conceded 15. Baz getting injured and McCarthy coming in was arguably what made the difference in getting us up. He looks like a lost child in goal and is error prone.
You cant compare Tim flowers to Baz. Tim flowers was brought in as an understudy to Peter Shilton for 70k (peanuts at the time). Baz cost 12mill and was brought in as first choice.
Like wise if you cant use stats to show Baz is a terrible keeper, you cant use stats to say how wonderful Edozie is. Most of the time he ran round in circles producing little. The assist stat is particularly misleading. |  |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 18:57 - Jun 2 with 1450 views | felly1 |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 14:12 - Jun 2 by SaintNick |
We won 17 and drew 6 of those games, it doesnt matter who the opposition were, they had to be beaten.
I wouldnt think I am one of a minority, most people i speak to think Bazunu is a perfectly adequate Championship keeper, although they are not so sure he is Premier League standard.
That is what we need him to be a Championship level keeper, nothing else, I wouldnt imagine there will be many better keepers in the division next year.
The majority of those that I have seen slag off Bazunu also tend to lambast KWP & Manning for poor defending and likewise Jack Stephens and to a lesser extent Jan Bednarek.
Yet give Bazunu no leeway for this
Having the worst shots to goals ratio isnt the be all and all of whether a keeper is good or not, keepers with top teams dont let many goals in, but they have less shots to save so can have a high ratio of goals conceded compared to shots faced.
I agree throwing a 20 year old keeper into the Premier League was madness, but he is not a 20 year old anymore and he is not playing in the premier League for the coming season.
Based on your way of looking at things Tim Flowers should have been given the boot fairly early in his Saints career, |
Believe me I'd be delighted to see an improved Bazunu and regardless of my opinion I'll be fully behind him whilst he's on the pitch whether he's good or bad. | | | |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 21:35 - Jun 2 with 1326 views | cocklebreath |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 14:12 - Jun 2 by SaintNick |
We won 17 and drew 6 of those games, it doesnt matter who the opposition were, they had to be beaten.
I wouldnt think I am one of a minority, most people i speak to think Bazunu is a perfectly adequate Championship keeper, although they are not so sure he is Premier League standard.
That is what we need him to be a Championship level keeper, nothing else, I wouldnt imagine there will be many better keepers in the division next year.
The majority of those that I have seen slag off Bazunu also tend to lambast KWP & Manning for poor defending and likewise Jack Stephens and to a lesser extent Jan Bednarek.
Yet give Bazunu no leeway for this
Having the worst shots to goals ratio isnt the be all and all of whether a keeper is good or not, keepers with top teams dont let many goals in, but they have less shots to save so can have a high ratio of goals conceded compared to shots faced.
I agree throwing a 20 year old keeper into the Premier League was madness, but he is not a 20 year old anymore and he is not playing in the premier League for the coming season.
Based on your way of looking at things Tim Flowers should have been given the boot fairly early in his Saints career, |
Bollox bazanu is not adequate and bollox most people you speak to believe that, he’s utter sh!t and you know it you’re just out fishing again. |  |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 23:56 - Jun 2 with 1234 views | PatfromPoole |
I have said it before and I’ll say it again.
I am convinced Bazunu has eyesight issues.
He regularly struggles with shots from outside the box; I think he has issues with following the ball.
I know the design of the ball is often made to make it difficult for keepers, but he genuinely seems to have issues.
He’s a decent one-on-one shot stopper. It’s the saves you expect him to make that are often his problem. |  |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 09:17 - Jun 3 with 1068 views | Butty101 |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 21:35 - Jun 2 by cocklebreath |
Bollox bazanu is not adequate and bollox most people you speak to believe that, he’s utter sh!t and you know it you’re just out fishing again. |
This is a classic Nick click bait article.
Dont forget this is the man that said Ross Stewart had already paid off his transfer by sitting on the bench once in his first season. | |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 09:33 - Jun 3 with 1045 views | SaintNick |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 21:35 - Jun 2 by cocklebreath |
Bollox bazanu is not adequate and bollox most people you speak to believe that, he’s utter sh!t and you know it you’re just out fishing again. |
If you want people to respect your views then respect theirs.
As I say the evidence is there, Bazunu played most of the season in a promotion winning team, he played 23 games unbeaten.
If he was as you say "utter sh!t" then how come we went 23 games unbeaten, if he was that bad then the opposition would have scored at will.
I am not out fishing, I am giving an opinion and inviting debate, yes it looks like I am fishing because several people cannot accept my view and rise up indignantly.
I have made a case for the defence, where is the case for the prosecution, just slagging off someone's opinion is not putting your own viewpoint | |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 09:41 - Jun 3 with 1037 views | 1ASIN12 |
I don’t agree with you Nick around Bazunu , I think he’s good at playing a sweeper but not good at being a keeper and the people I speak to have similar views.
To some extent I agree with you about Edozie, he’s can be good and hoping his loan spell would have done him good.
A lot of fans seem to be slagging off Armstrong and saying we should get rid, I don’t agree and also how are we going to afford to buy a 15-20 goal a season striker to replace him.
On paper a strike force of Armstrong, Archer, and Stewart (if and it’s a big if he stays fit) could score a hatful of goals for us next season. | | | |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 09:59 - Jun 3 with 1008 views | SaintNick |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 16:42 - Jun 2 by Butty101 |
Baz wasnt having a great time at Standard Liege before injury. He had played 8 and conceded 15. Baz getting injured and McCarthy coming in was arguably what made the difference in getting us up. He looks like a lost child in goal and is error prone.
You cant compare Tim flowers to Baz. Tim flowers was brought in as an understudy to Peter Shilton for 70k (peanuts at the time). Baz cost 12mill and was brought in as first choice.
Like wise if you cant use stats to show Baz is a terrible keeper, you cant use stats to say how wonderful Edozie is. Most of the time he ran round in circles producing little. The assist stat is particularly misleading. |
I agree with you Bazunu on the face of it doesn't look look to have done well in Belgium, I haven't seen any of the games or goals so can't really comment.
When McCarthy came in his goals conceded ratio was worse than Bazunu's, McCarthy played 5 regular season games and conceded 9 goals, that's 1.8 goals a game.
Bazunu played 41 games and conceded 54 goals at a ratio of 1.3 per game.
What changed the season was that in the final game at Leeds Russell Martin changed his tactics, he allowed the players to have some leeway in the way they defended, he gave them some licence to clear the ball when needed and that continued into the play off
I would agree Bazunu was low on confidence, he had just come from a shell shock season the previous year and was now playing in front of a defence that was error strewn in itself.
Stats for keeper s are a little different, Arron Ramsdale was one of our best players this season, he played 30 Premier League games and conceded 66 goals that is 2.2 per game,
In 22/23 Bazunu played 32 Premier League games and conceded 56 goals thats 1.86 goals per game, does that make him a better goalkeeper than Ramsdale ? We all know the answer to that one.
With outfield players stats to show more than keepers, as they highlight positive contributions, Edozie might have run around in a circle producing little, most of the time, but his 6 goals and 3 assists were more end product than Ryan Fraser's 6 goals and 2 assists and in less games.
Edozie produced more than others who played in his position.
What it showed though was that he influenced games more than Fraser, but its not the full picture, but with outfield players stats make it easier to see how they have influenced games | |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 10:13 - Jun 3 with 994 views | cocklebreath |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 09:33 - Jun 3 by SaintNick |
If you want people to respect your views then respect theirs.
As I say the evidence is there, Bazunu played most of the season in a promotion winning team, he played 23 games unbeaten.
If he was as you say "utter sh!t" then how come we went 23 games unbeaten, if he was that bad then the opposition would have scored at will.
I am not out fishing, I am giving an opinion and inviting debate, yes it looks like I am fishing because several people cannot accept my view and rise up indignantly.
I have made a case for the defence, where is the case for the prosecution, just slagging off someone's opinion is not putting your own viewpoint |
2 seasons in a row his shots to goals conceded was the worse in the league by a distance, that’s my evidence which is backed up by me seeing him concede consistently poor goals with his weak wrists letting long shots in almost weekly and rarely making a decent save. He is utter sh!t, so sh!t that I prefer Mcarthy and he’s absolutely sh!t as well. | |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 11:58 - Jun 3 with 921 views | felly1 |
When you look back to our 11/12 promotion from the Championship we had Davis in goal.
Davis was a flawed keeper but decent enough at Championship level .
The difference between Baz and Davis was occasionally Davis put in performances that literally won us a game.
Remember Leeds away where we won 1 nil for example.
Bazunu from memory has never really put in those levels of performance.
I want Saints to get promoted next season and I really feel we need a match winning keeper not someone who struggles with long shots or crosses. | | | |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 12:59 - Jun 3 with 867 views | kingolaf |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 14:12 - Jun 2 by SaintNick |
We won 17 and drew 6 of those games, it doesnt matter who the opposition were, they had to be beaten.
I wouldnt think I am one of a minority, most people i speak to think Bazunu is a perfectly adequate Championship keeper, although they are not so sure he is Premier League standard.
That is what we need him to be a Championship level keeper, nothing else, I wouldnt imagine there will be many better keepers in the division next year.
The majority of those that I have seen slag off Bazunu also tend to lambast KWP & Manning for poor defending and likewise Jack Stephens and to a lesser extent Jan Bednarek.
Yet give Bazunu no leeway for this
Having the worst shots to goals ratio isnt the be all and all of whether a keeper is good or not, keepers with top teams dont let many goals in, but they have less shots to save so can have a high ratio of goals conceded compared to shots faced.
I agree throwing a 20 year old keeper into the Premier League was madness, but he is not a 20 year old anymore and he is not playing in the premier League for the coming season.
Based on your way of looking at things Tim Flowers should have been given the boot fairly early in his Saints career, |
You talk total crap sometimes Nick.
Bazunu is terrible. I don’t know what fans you talk to, but to a man the ones I speak to reckon he’s got hands like empty crisp packets. | | | |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 13:07 - Jun 3 with 864 views | SaintNick |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 12:59 - Jun 3 by kingolaf |
You talk total crap sometimes Nick.
Bazunu is terrible. I don’t know what fans you talk to, but to a man the ones I speak to reckon he’s got hands like empty crisp packets. |
I refer you to my earlier comment that if you want me to respect your view then respect mine, give your opinion but there is no need for abuse.
Football is all about opinions, it would be boring to all have the same opinion.
I don't think Bazunu is the best keeper we have had. but he is young and has time on his side, keepers rarely blossom till their mid 20's | |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 14:55 - Jun 3 with 791 views | kingolaf |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 13:07 - Jun 3 by SaintNick |
I refer you to my earlier comment that if you want me to respect your view then respect mine, give your opinion but there is no need for abuse.
Football is all about opinions, it would be boring to all have the same opinion.
I don't think Bazunu is the best keeper we have had. but he is young and has time on his side, keepers rarely blossom till their mid 20's |
Sorry Nick, didn’t mean to offend. But you are way off the mark with Bazunu.
As far as he goes, you can’t polish a turd. He hasn’t got the natural ability as a keeper to blossom at any time in the future. | | | |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 15:26 - Jun 3 with 758 views | Joiedevivre |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 13:07 - Jun 3 by SaintNick |
I refer you to my earlier comment that if you want me to respect your view then respect mine, give your opinion but there is no need for abuse.
Football is all about opinions, it would be boring to all have the same opinion.
I don't think Bazunu is the best keeper we have had. but he is young and has time on his side, keepers rarely blossom till their mid 20's |
Which brings a further question. Are we to be an entry-level team, content with a goalkeeping apprenticeship? Or we could act like other premier league level clubs and have a proven goalkeeper in that prime age you suggest. |  | | |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 20:46 - Jun 3 with 619 views | SaintNick |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 14:55 - Jun 3 by kingolaf |
Sorry Nick, didn’t mean to offend. But you are way off the mark with Bazunu.
As far as he goes, you can’t polish a turd. He hasn’t got the natural ability as a keeper to blossom at any time in the future. |
I agree that Bazunu isnt the finished article yet, but I think he will mature with age, if we were in the Premier League he isnt up to that standard yet, maybe he will never be, but he is good enough in the Championship, I am not sure why it stirs up such animosity towards him from some people.
He is a Southampton player, whilst he remains so I want him to succeed.
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 21:37 - Jun 3 with 591 views | cocklebreath |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 20:46 - Jun 3 by SaintNick |
I agree that Bazunu isnt the finished article yet, but I think he will mature with age, if we were in the Premier League he isnt up to that standard yet, maybe he will never be, but he is good enough in the Championship, I am not sure why it stirs up such animosity towards him from some people.
He is a Southampton player, whilst he remains so I want him to succeed.
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He isn’t good enough for the championship, I want him to succeed if he plays but I know he won’t because he’s rubbish. | |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 21:46 - Jun 3 with 583 views | SaintNick |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 21:37 - Jun 3 by cocklebreath |
He isn’t good enough for the championship, I want him to succeed if he plays but I know he won’t because he’s rubbish. |
Then if you want him tom succeed then dont prejudge him, reserve judgement till he has played.
Whatever you think of him won't change whether he is number one keeper or not under Will Still, so best not to say too much and risk getting stick when he turns out to be good lol  | |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 22:09 - Jun 3 with 556 views | cocklebreath |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 21:46 - Jun 3 by SaintNick |
Then if you want him tom succeed then dont prejudge him, reserve judgement till he has played.
Whatever you think of him won't change whether he is number one keeper or not under Will Still, so best not to say too much and risk getting stick when he turns out to be good lol |
You can quote me.
He will be rubbish if he plays.
Hopefully Will can spot a dud and loan him out | |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 22:10 - Jun 3 with 555 views | SaintNick |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 22:09 - Jun 3 by cocklebreath |
You can quote me.
He will be rubbish if he plays.
Hopefully Will can spot a dud and loan him out |
Lets see then, everyone has made their point on to the next victim | |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 22:34 - Jun 3 with 528 views | cocklebreath |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 22:10 - Jun 3 by SaintNick |
Lets see then, everyone has made their point on to the next victim |
Mcarthy aka goat eyes
He’s crap as well | |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 22:36 - Jun 3 with 526 views | TripleNiemi |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 22:10 - Jun 3 by SaintNick |
Lets see then, everyone has made their point on to the next victim |
Some of us have merely observed and declined to comment either way……. |  |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 22:48 - Jun 3 with 502 views | Butty101 |
| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 20:46 - Jun 3 by SaintNick |
I agree that Bazunu isnt the finished article yet, but I think he will mature with age, if we were in the Premier League he isnt up to that standard yet, maybe he will never be, but he is good enough in the Championship, I am not sure why it stirs up such animosity towards him from some people.
He is a Southampton player, whilst he remains so I want him to succeed.
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What do you see in him that males you think he will succeed? In 3 years he has shown nothing.
He’s a poor man’s Angis Gunn and that’s not good. | |
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| Returning Loan Players Could Be Crucial For Southampton on 22:54 - Jun 3 with 501 views | sledger |
Bazunu just lets so many poor goals in,in many cases if it was on target it was a goal,his inability was mainly hidden because we were able to out score the other side.How many goals was it we conceded? | | | |
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