Burka 16:03 - Jun 4 with 2838 views | Boundy | For it or against the wearing of it in this country. Myself yes I'm against it as are most other civilised countries who have banned it so why not , it is the 21st century after all. |  |
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Burka on 10:15 - Jun 5 with 687 views | onehunglow |
Burka on 10:08 - Jun 5 by Scotia | It's a strange one. We only know one Muslim woman who wears a Burka, she is divorced and wears it completely out of choice. We've known her for about 5 years and I've never seen her face, my wife has and says she's absolutely stunning. Perhaps wearing it it saves her a lot of unwanted attention. I get the security concerns but wouldn't support a full ban. |
What factors are there that sees a woman cover her whole body It is impractical if nothing elsimahobe driving a car with it on Periferal vision has to be impaired Why are Islamic women kept separate Why also do some men still have attitudes towards women Why are they pigeon holed |  |
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Burka on 10:22 - Jun 5 with 660 views | AnotherJohn |
Burka on 09:50 - Jun 5 by controversial_jack | Maybe i misread. Why would a police officer need to see your face, or any official for that matter? i'm against voter ID, and I haven't voted since it was brought in. What banks, who goes into banks thesedays if they can find one still open. There's no need at all to see anyone's face in public unless they volunteer it |
Re police officers (who ask to see the face, remember), the answer is the same as it would be for a person wearing a full-face balaclava. The general answer across a wider range of situations is that there are times when ID and/or security is an issue. A rather greyer area concerns what happens when a face covering may interfere with certain kinds of social interaction. For example, in universities there was controversy about whether students should be allowed to take part in seminars/tutorials (small group work) when wearing full-face coverings. I didn't express an opinion on whether that should be permitted, but personally I think it has negative consequences. |  | |  |
Burka on 10:22 - Jun 5 with 660 views | raynor94 |
Burka on 10:08 - Jun 5 by Scotia | It's a strange one. We only know one Muslim woman who wears a Burka, she is divorced and wears it completely out of choice. We've known her for about 5 years and I've never seen her face, my wife has and says she's absolutely stunning. Perhaps wearing it it saves her a lot of unwanted attention. I get the security concerns but wouldn't support a full ban. |
Take a stroll along St Helens Road tomorrow you will see plenty |  |
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Burka on 10:59 - Jun 5 with 627 views | Gwyn737 | Some (I not suggesting on here) get confused about the burka, the niqab and the hijab. The conversation would be a lot cleaner IMO if it was concentrated on face covering. |  | |  |
Burka on 11:34 - Jun 5 with 587 views | onehunglow |
Burka on 10:59 - Jun 5 by Gwyn737 | Some (I not suggesting on here) get confused about the burka, the niqab and the hijab. The conversation would be a lot cleaner IMO if it was concentrated on face covering. |
Don't assume you know it all Face /Body Principle is vile and affront to women |  |
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Burka on 12:29 - Jun 5 with 549 views | controversial_jack |
Burka on 10:22 - Jun 5 by AnotherJohn | Re police officers (who ask to see the face, remember), the answer is the same as it would be for a person wearing a full-face balaclava. The general answer across a wider range of situations is that there are times when ID and/or security is an issue. A rather greyer area concerns what happens when a face covering may interfere with certain kinds of social interaction. For example, in universities there was controversy about whether students should be allowed to take part in seminars/tutorials (small group work) when wearing full-face coverings. I didn't express an opinion on whether that should be permitted, but personally I think it has negative consequences. |
Id is only required when a crime has been committed , or when reasonable suspicion of such has occurred. Let;s be honest, a woman wearing of of these is hardly likely to be a serial killer or bank robber and will not be on the police radar |  | |  |
Burka on 12:33 - Jun 5 with 541 views | raynor94 |
Burka on 12:29 - Jun 5 by controversial_jack | Id is only required when a crime has been committed , or when reasonable suspicion of such has occurred. Let;s be honest, a woman wearing of of these is hardly likely to be a serial killer or bank robber and will not be on the police radar |
There have been a few cases of men wearing a Niqab or a Burka and committing robberies |  |
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Burka on 12:35 - Jun 5 with 535 views | controversial_jack |
Burka on 12:33 - Jun 5 by raynor94 | There have been a few cases of men wearing a Niqab or a Burka and committing robberies |
You can tell if it's woman though unless you were really stupid [Post edited 5 Jun 12:35]
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Burka on 13:21 - Jun 5 with 488 views | raynor94 |
Burka on 12:35 - Jun 5 by controversial_jack | You can tell if it's woman though unless you were really stupid [Post edited 5 Jun 12:35]
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Well there really must be quite a few "really stupid" bank tellers out there You are the king of Google have a dabble |  |
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Burka on 13:29 - Jun 5 with 481 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Burka on 12:35 - Jun 5 by controversial_jack | You can tell if it's woman though unless you were really stupid [Post edited 5 Jun 12:35]
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Unless you were really stupid you would realise women commit crime as well as men. |  |
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Burka on 13:37 - Jun 5 with 476 views | onehunglow |
Burka on 13:29 - Jun 5 by JACKMANANDBOY | Unless you were really stupid you would realise women commit crime as well as men. |
And no you can't tell if it's a woman or not To think you can is stupid |  |
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Burka on 13:59 - Jun 5 with 445 views | Whiterockin |
Burka on 16:12 - Jun 4 by raynor94 | Against it interesting watching Simon Reeves Scandinavian series, Denmark have banned it we could learn a lot from them concerning immigrants |
Not only Denmark, quit a few European countries have a ban in place. Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Denmark, France, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Switzerland, and parts of Italy and Spain. All civilised countries, I have no issues with us joining them. |  | |  |
Burka on 14:03 - Jun 5 with 430 views | Scotia |
Burka on 10:59 - Jun 5 by Gwyn737 | Some (I not suggesting on here) get confused about the burka, the niqab and the hijab. The conversation would be a lot cleaner IMO if it was concentrated on face covering. |
I was referring to a Niqab in that case. I've never seen a Burka worn anywhere in Europe, not much point in banning it. |  | |  |
Burka on 14:55 - Jun 5 with 379 views | Boundy |
Burka on 14:03 - Jun 5 by Scotia | I was referring to a Niqab in that case. I've never seen a Burka worn anywhere in Europe, not much point in banning it. |
if you've never seen a women (TBC) wearing a Burka then I suggest you take yourself down to Asda in Llansamlet for example on the latter days of the week where you'll see plenty . |  |
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Burka on 15:14 - Jun 5 with 362 views | SullutaCreturned |
Burka on 14:55 - Jun 5 by Boundy | if you've never seen a women (TBC) wearing a Burka then I suggest you take yourself down to Asda in Llansamlet for example on the latter days of the week where you'll see plenty . |
EH? I've never seen any. I have seen a fair few, elsewhere In Bradford, London, Cardiff, Bristol, I have seen Burqa's. I'm sure I saw a story about 2 sisters who worked one job, they wore Birqa's and the manaher didn't have a clue that they shared the job. Or did i make that up? |  | |  |
Burka on 15:33 - Jun 5 with 355 views | Scotia |
Burka on 14:55 - Jun 5 by Boundy | if you've never seen a women (TBC) wearing a Burka then I suggest you take yourself down to Asda in Llansamlet for example on the latter days of the week where you'll see plenty . |
I think you mean a Niqab. I think the Reform MP probably meant that too. I've never seen a Burka worn anywhere, not even in London or the year I lived in Birmingham. I'm in Liverpool now and haven't seen one worn here either. |  | |  |
Burka on 15:35 - Jun 5 with 355 views | AnotherJohn |
Burka on 14:03 - Jun 5 by Scotia | I was referring to a Niqab in that case. I've never seen a Burka worn anywhere in Europe, not much point in banning it. |
My understanding is that head coverings with netting over the eyes count as burkas and you do occasionally see them in Swansea. I think there may have been one at the Strand car boot sale last weekend. The niqab, with the open slot for the eyes, is more common here though. |  | |  |
Burka on 16:08 - Jun 5 with 328 views | controversial_jack |
Burka on 13:29 - Jun 5 by JACKMANANDBOY | Unless you were really stupid you would realise women commit crime as well as men. |
If they commit a crime, as well as anyone else then yes you can get their ID, but if they haven't then you don't need to see their id as it's really none of your business what they look like underneath |  | |  |
Burka on 16:08 - Jun 5 with 328 views | onehunglow |
Burka on 15:33 - Jun 5 by Scotia | I think you mean a Niqab. I think the Reform MP probably meant that too. I've never seen a Burka worn anywhere, not even in London or the year I lived in Birmingham. I'm in Liverpool now and haven't seen one worn here either. |
Popping on to see the Boss later If you'd said, I'd have gone over and bought you a cup of tea |  |
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Burka on 16:10 - Jun 5 with 318 views | raynor94 |
Burka on 15:33 - Jun 5 by Scotia | I think you mean a Niqab. I think the Reform MP probably meant that too. I've never seen a Burka worn anywhere, not even in London or the year I lived in Birmingham. I'm in Liverpool now and haven't seen one worn here either. |
Plenty in Swansea I'm in Nicholl street surgery and often see them |  |
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Burka on 16:13 - Jun 5 with 310 views | controversial_jack |
Burka on 16:10 - Jun 5 by raynor94 | Plenty in Swansea I'm in Nicholl street surgery and often see them |
Don't see many in Skewen or Neath or P Toilet. It's a non issue as far as i'm concerned |  | |  |
Burka on 18:00 - Jun 5 with 241 views | SullutaCreturned |
Burka on 16:10 - Jun 5 by raynor94 | Plenty in Swansea I'm in Nicholl street surgery and often see them |
Actually, our dentist is Russell Street and Ihave seen one burka wearing person down there. Around Skewen/Neath I see headscarves mostly, not even veils. |  | |  |
Burka on 18:02 - Jun 5 with 241 views | Boundy |
Burka on 16:13 - Jun 5 by controversial_jack | Don't see many in Skewen or Neath or P Toilet. It's a non issue as far as i'm concerned |
don't see many or none at all ? and despite whether you do or not others would appear to have opposing views to yours and for them it is an issue ,in fact an issue which a number of countries have considered important enough to bring in legislation to ban the wearing of it in public. Thanks for your contribution . |  |
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