| Clarkson's Farm 19:19 - Jun 7 with 2289 views | max936 |
Mrs and Me finished watching series 4 safternoon sorry it to see the series end, we've enjoyed all 4 series so far this last one series 4 was the best for me.
Anyone else a fan of the series? [Post edited 7 Jun 19:20]
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| Clarkson's Farm on 07:47 - Jun 8 with 774 views | Scotia |
| Clarkson's Farm on 00:43 - Jun 8 by max936 |
He's made a series for Amazon its called entertainment, in making that program he's highlighted the pitfalls farmers face, if you watched the program you'd see it for yourself farmers work hard like he does he the program, so I don't begrudge them anything, its their kin who inherit the business after them and they have been brought up on the farm and have probably grafted on the farm from a young age, so they deserve any benefits that come their way.
How does Clarkson benefit from inheritance tax?, he's kids will but not him do you know what inheritance means if not look it up. |
But my parents faced pitfalls and grafted hard their entire lives too. They won't benefit from their estate unless I have to sell it to pay for their care.
Clarksons kids haven't grafted on a farm and the vast majority of farm owners kids haven't either, we're not talking about an average sheep or dairy farm here, they aren't worth anywhere near enough to pay inheritance tax on.
I'll almost certainly have to pay inheritance tax on my parents estate one day. At a higher level, from a smaller threshold and in one lump sum which is completely different from someone inheriting a farm. |  | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 07:58 - Jun 8 with 747 views | MrFarmer |
| Clarkson's Farm on 23:38 - Jun 7 by Scotia |
Family farms are totally at the mercy of supermarkets and therefore us. If farms break up it'll be the supermarkets that take over.
We want to pay virtually nothing for eggs, milk, meat and we want to eat loads. Absolutely loads. We're fat and unhealthy.
The supermarkets want to make money so pay the farmers as little as possible, the farmers cut massive corners (often through being naive) and cause pollution because they have to produce food at industrial levels, they're basically an industry nowadays.
If you buy food from a supermarket, you're part of the problem. I know how incendiary that is but that's where we are.
There's too many of us and we don't have enough money to eat sustainably.
There are checks and balances in place for a lot of agricultural land too which also impacts its value. My brother in law farms about 250 acres on Gower, it's poor quality and only any good for sheep. It would never be allowed to be used for anything else due to planning restrictions. That's the case with most farms. |
There is a farm for sale in right now in Haycastle, ceredigion.
£3.8mil.
Probably is only just big enough to create a full time job.
Is that's gets handed down a generation, there will be a tax bill of approximately £400,000. A person would never be able to afford that by creating a wage from farming, so that farm would be sold in parcels.
Making the farm too small to be viable and therefore the loss of a family farm. This labour tax will kill family farms and only leave mega farms and hobby farms, neither are good for the local areas. | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 08:21 - Jun 8 with 689 views | Whiterockin |
The inheritance tax for farmers is quite simple, no inheritance tax if a farm has been in the family for 3 generations. It would instantly close the loophole. |  | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 08:22 - Jun 8 with 694 views | Scotia |
| Clarkson's Farm on 07:58 - Jun 8 by MrFarmer |
There is a farm for sale in right now in Haycastle, ceredigion.
£3.8mil.
Probably is only just big enough to create a full time job.
Is that's gets handed down a generation, there will be a tax bill of approximately £400,000. A person would never be able to afford that by creating a wage from farming, so that farm would be sold in parcels.
Making the farm too small to be viable and therefore the loss of a family farm. This labour tax will kill family farms and only leave mega farms and hobby farms, neither are good for the local areas. |
That has to be one of the most valuable farms in Wales if that's the case.
With APR and BPR, if inherited by a married couple the tax would be £160000 payable interest free over 10 years. | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 08:50 - Jun 8 with 636 views | MrFarmer |
| Clarkson's Farm on 08:22 - Jun 8 by Scotia |
That has to be one of the most valuable farms in Wales if that's the case.
With APR and BPR, if inherited by a married couple the tax would be £160000 payable interest free over 10 years. |
Not even close.
Your relatives farm in Gower would be about £3mil.
If it's only one parent handing the farm down, they will be smashed by the new IHT rates.
A farm has to be about 300 acres these days to produce enough to pay a full time wage, will land prices about £10,000 acres, that £3mil. Then add in a farm house,sheds, machinery and the livestock, crops, it will result in massive unplayable taxes for family farms. | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 09:35 - Jun 8 with 600 views | Dr_Winston |
Just on Zoopla there are currently six farms for sale in Wales for more than £2m. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 10:06 - Jun 8 with 573 views | MrFarmer |
| Clarkson's Farm on 09:35 - Jun 8 by Dr_Winston |
Just on Zoopla there are currently six farms for sale in Wales for more than £2m. |
On www.uklandandfarms.co.uk
There are currently 62 farms listed in Wales over 100 acres, and 25 listed over 250 acres, there 25 are big enough to produce a wage. With the cheapest being a mountain farm which wouldn't produce a living wage currently listed at £2.2mil | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 10:10 - Jun 8 with 569 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Clarkson's Farm on 23:38 - Jun 7 by Scotia |
Family farms are totally at the mercy of supermarkets and therefore us. If farms break up it'll be the supermarkets that take over.
We want to pay virtually nothing for eggs, milk, meat and we want to eat loads. Absolutely loads. We're fat and unhealthy.
The supermarkets want to make money so pay the farmers as little as possible, the farmers cut massive corners (often through being naive) and cause pollution because they have to produce food at industrial levels, they're basically an industry nowadays.
If you buy food from a supermarket, you're part of the problem. I know how incendiary that is but that's where we are.
There's too many of us and we don't have enough money to eat sustainably.
There are checks and balances in place for a lot of agricultural land too which also impacts its value. My brother in law farms about 250 acres on Gower, it's poor quality and only any good for sheep. It would never be allowed to be used for anything else due to planning restrictions. That's the case with most farms. |
Bit of a circular argument, big business is the problem, tax family farms allow them to break up, then big business will take over.
On planning laws, they have been relaxed for a while allowing farms to diversify into areas such as leisure and tourism. |  |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 10:10 - Jun 8 with 569 views | Boundy |
| Clarkson's Farm on 08:22 - Jun 8 by Scotia |
That has to be one of the most valuable farms in Wales if that's the case.
With APR and BPR, if inherited by a married couple the tax would be £160000 payable interest free over 10 years. |
Have ever costed the price of a tractor for example , or the cost of hay .Is it the case you're jealous because you aren't in the same position , myself so what if farmers can avoid paying tax , they work harder than anyone I've ever known for so little reward . | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 10:17 - Jun 8 with 562 views | Dr_Winston |
| Clarkson's Farm on 10:06 - Jun 8 by MrFarmer |
On www.uklandandfarms.co.uk
There are currently 62 farms listed in Wales over 100 acres, and 25 listed over 250 acres, there 25 are big enough to produce a wage. With the cheapest being a mountain farm which wouldn't produce a living wage currently listed at £2.2mil |
I guess the smaller ones are basically hobby farms rather than going concerns?
My Grandmother's family were all farmers. Bits of West Cross are named after them. War and death duties did for most of it. All broken up and sold off over the years. Probably all housing now.
One branch still farms near Penclawdd, or did to the last of my knowledge. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 10:27 - Jun 8 with 558 views | MrFarmer |
| Clarkson's Farm on 08:22 - Jun 8 by Scotia |
That has to be one of the most valuable farms in Wales if that's the case.
With APR and BPR, if inherited by a married couple the tax would be £160000 payable interest free over 10 years. |
Inherited by a married couple has nothing to do with IHT.
If it's Inherited from a married couple then there is a larger relief, but with the way that the inheritance tax was set up previously there was no need for parents to hand down farms early, so now we have situations where lots widowed 80year olds are needing to pass down farms to 55 year old descendants and will get ripped apart from the taxes. | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 10:28 - Jun 8 with 557 views | max936 |
| Clarkson's Farm on 23:38 - Jun 7 by Scotia |
Family farms are totally at the mercy of supermarkets and therefore us. If farms break up it'll be the supermarkets that take over.
We want to pay virtually nothing for eggs, milk, meat and we want to eat loads. Absolutely loads. We're fat and unhealthy.
The supermarkets want to make money so pay the farmers as little as possible, the farmers cut massive corners (often through being naive) and cause pollution because they have to produce food at industrial levels, they're basically an industry nowadays.
If you buy food from a supermarket, you're part of the problem. I know how incendiary that is but that's where we are.
There's too many of us and we don't have enough money to eat sustainably.
There are checks and balances in place for a lot of agricultural land too which also impacts its value. My brother in law farms about 250 acres on Gower, it's poor quality and only any good for sheep. It would never be allowed to be used for anything else due to planning restrictions. That's the case with most farms. |
Clarkson isn't a farmer and he doesn't pretend to be one, he is learning on the job though and getting better along with helping his local farmers.
Inheritance tax for Farmers is a joke anyway, the farmers family all muck in with the usually and all working all hours, so why shouldn't they be able to leave their wealth to their families. | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 10:49 - Jun 8 with 530 views | max936 |
| Clarkson's Farm on 10:10 - Jun 8 by Boundy |
Have ever costed the price of a tractor for example , or the cost of hay .Is it the case you're jealous because you aren't in the same position , myself so what if farmers can avoid paying tax , they work harder than anyone I've ever known for so little reward . |
Exactly, the cost of farm machinery are extortionate a half decent tractor would cost upwards of 80 to 100k.
Watch series 4 to its end Boundy, its an eye opener into what farmers face. | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 11:28 - Jun 8 with 516 views | MrFarmer |
| Clarkson's Farm on 10:17 - Jun 8 by Dr_Winston |
I guess the smaller ones are basically hobby farms rather than going concerns?
My Grandmother's family were all farmers. Bits of West Cross are named after them. War and death duties did for most of it. All broken up and sold off over the years. Probably all housing now.
One branch still farms near Penclawdd, or did to the last of my knowledge. |
Maybe not all hobby farms, but would almost definitely have their main income from other sources. With the farm giving them a top up if they are lucky to have it payed off by previous generations | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 11:31 - Jun 8 with 512 views | Dr_Winston |
| Clarkson's Farm on 11:28 - Jun 8 by MrFarmer |
Maybe not all hobby farms, but would almost definitely have their main income from other sources. With the farm giving them a top up if they are lucky to have it payed off by previous generations |
Diversification of income is a big thing, another issue that Clarkson's show has highlighted. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 11:34 - Jun 8 with 513 views | Scotia |
| Clarkson's Farm on 10:06 - Jun 8 by MrFarmer |
On www.uklandandfarms.co.uk
There are currently 62 farms listed in Wales over 100 acres, and 25 listed over 250 acres, there 25 are big enough to produce a wage. With the cheapest being a mountain farm which wouldn't produce a living wage currently listed at £2.2mil |
That's market value though, isn't tax relief based on agricultural value? | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 11:48 - Jun 8 with 499 views | MrFarmer |
| Clarkson's Farm on 11:34 - Jun 8 by Scotia |
That's market value though, isn't tax relief based on agricultural value? |
No. It's based on current realistic value. Ie £10,000 per acre average, more if its near a house or a village. And a lot more if it already has planning for a house or houses agreed on it. | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 16:01 - Jun 8 with 442 views | oldtownjack |
| Clarkson's Farm on 01:15 - Jun 8 by Robbie |
Jeremy Clarkson , a marmite character to many but the chemistry with him , James May and Richard Hammond made for great Top Gear tele .
That programme then went into a period of short term stand in presenters and eventually was pulled , Flintoffs accident was the end , lets hope Freddy is still on the mend too .
Maybe stunt drivers and clever camera work made Top Gear entertaining , who cares .
Smug face still on Who Wants to be a Millionaire these days . |
Clarkson was let go after he assaulted a member of his production team because he couldn't get a hot meal after filming. The bloke's a tool. | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 18:34 - Jun 8 with 378 views | Flashberryjack |
| Clarkson's Farm on 19:47 - Jun 7 by Boundy |
Love the programme and thankful that someone like Clarkson is showing the public just what goes into farming ,I've not watched series 4 yet so no spoiler alerts please. |
Great series, I expect Builthy will be along soon to disagree, he doesn't seem to like farmers. |  |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 09:02 - Jun 9 with 233 views | onehunglow |
| Clarkson's Farm on 08:57 - Jun 9 by Witneyjack |
As someone who has met him on numerous occasions in my previous profession, usually at his home, I can say categorically, what you see on screen is what you get. A very down to earth man with a wicked sense of humour. |
Write a book
Keith has
I almost did | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 09:41 - Jun 9 with 206 views | onehunglow |
A millionaire, well boo hoo
We need more poor people don't we
Everybody avoids tax
Everyone
Nobody LIKES paying tax
Those that lie
It's hard to accept but true
We are all hypocrites , it's just about degrees | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 09:49 - Jun 9 with 202 views | max936 |
| Clarkson's Farm on 09:41 - Jun 9 by onehunglow |
A millionaire, well boo hoo
We need more poor people don't we
Everybody avoids tax
Everyone
Nobody LIKES paying tax
Those that lie
It's hard to accept but true
We are all hypocrites , it's just about degrees |
"We are all hypocrites , it's just about degrees"
Very hard to disagree with that. | |
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