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Has Greta been kidnapped? 13:00 - Jun 9 with 5168 viewstrampie

Greta Thunberg aid ship to Gaza has apparently been intercepted by Israel, I would imagine after 9 people were killed previously on a Turkish aid ship attempting to deliver aid and the outcry that followed that the same fate won't happened to these aid volunteers.
Apparently Israel is going to show them footage of the Oct 7th attack from nearly 2 years ago as some kind of justification for starving women and children out there and make them think they should not be given food and medicines to these people, personally I don't think that will work in changing the aid volunteers minds.

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 09:51 - Jun 10 with 890 viewsReslovenSwan1

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 09:40 - Jun 10 by onehunglow

Yes but they're only Israelis

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The Palestinians have no state and no recognition. Their milliary masters want them to die a or go somewhere else. They have been there for 2000 years.The,Israel's have been organising massacres for decades in reaction tov violent flare ups.

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 10:10 - Jun 10 with 841 viewsonehunglow

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 09:51 - Jun 10 by ReslovenSwan1

The Palestinians have no state and no recognition. Their milliary masters want them to die a or go somewhere else. They have been there for 2000 years.The,Israel's have been organising massacres for decades in reaction tov violent flare ups.


It might have something to do with the holocaust , denied by many of course or belittled
It might be why Israel is so merciless and OTT
I'm not a fan of what they are doing but see why

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 10:23 - Jun 10 with 819 viewscontroversial_jack

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 09:51 - Jun 10 by ReslovenSwan1

The Palestinians have no state and no recognition. Their milliary masters want them to die a or go somewhere else. They have been there for 2000 years.The,Israel's have been organising massacres for decades in reaction tov violent flare ups.


They do have a state and are recognised, just not by us, Israel the US and some others. They are recognised by more countries than they aren't

Israel has been oppressing and brutalising them for as you said , decades. Gaza is a ghetto no different to Warsaw or Krakow was, with similar oppressors with similar aims.
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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 10:32 - Jun 10 with 792 viewsAnotherJohn

Greta on flight home via France. Pity Shani can't go home.
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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 10:33 - Jun 10 with 788 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

I see some of those kidnapped are now refusing to be released!

What a circus, idiots are calling for them to be released, you could not make this sh1t up.
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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 10:47 - Jun 10 with 773 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 10:23 - Jun 10 by controversial_jack

They do have a state and are recognised, just not by us, Israel the US and some others. They are recognised by more countries than they aren't

Israel has been oppressing and brutalising them for as you said , decades. Gaza is a ghetto no different to Warsaw or Krakow was, with similar oppressors with similar aims.


Before October 7th Gaza had luxury apartments, 5 star hotels and Mercedes dealerships, 20,000 people a day crossed into Israel to work and complex cases from Gaza were treated at Israeli hospital.
To compare that to the Warsaw ghetto rather undermines your argument, rather like those who claim that Thunberg and her mates were kidnapped only for some of them to refuse go home! It's pure nonsense.

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 10:58 - Jun 10 with 754 viewstrampie

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 10:33 - Jun 10 by JACKMANANDBOY

I see some of those kidnapped are now refusing to be released!

What a circus, idiots are calling for them to be released, you could not make this sh1t up.
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Macron ?

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 11:02 - Jun 10 with 733 viewstrampie

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 10:47 - Jun 10 by JACKMANANDBOY

Before October 7th Gaza had luxury apartments, 5 star hotels and Mercedes dealerships, 20,000 people a day crossed into Israel to work and complex cases from Gaza were treated at Israeli hospital.
To compare that to the Warsaw ghetto rather undermines your argument, rather like those who claim that Thunberg and her mates were kidnapped only for some of them to refuse go home! It's pure nonsense.


If Gaza was not a ghetto before the recent Israeli invasion, then was Warsaw a ghetto before 1939, if comparing like with like then like with like needs to be compared equally.
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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 11:19 - Jun 10 with 714 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 11:02 - Jun 10 by trampie

If Gaza was not a ghetto before the recent Israeli invasion, then was Warsaw a ghetto before 1939, if comparing like with like then like with like needs to be compared equally.
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The Warsaw ghetto was emptied into Treblinka, over 900,000 people were murdered at Treblinka. There weren't 2 million Jews living in Germany at the time, serving in the police, army, as judges and as MPs. There are however 2 million Arabs doing exactly that in Israel. In cities like Haifa Jews and Arabs live cheek by jowl both fed up with the extremists and politicians prolonging the conflict.
Today's is the same situation undermines the argument.

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 11:35 - Jun 10 with 674 viewscontroversial_jack

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 11:19 - Jun 10 by JACKMANANDBOY

The Warsaw ghetto was emptied into Treblinka, over 900,000 people were murdered at Treblinka. There weren't 2 million Jews living in Germany at the time, serving in the police, army, as judges and as MPs. There are however 2 million Arabs doing exactly that in Israel. In cities like Haifa Jews and Arabs live cheek by jowl both fed up with the extremists and politicians prolonging the conflict.
Today's is the same situation undermines the argument.


A ghetto doesn't have to have the end product like you stated. Many were just starved out and bombed to pieces. This is what is happening
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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 11:38 - Jun 10 with 665 viewsonehunglow

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 11:19 - Jun 10 by JACKMANANDBOY

The Warsaw ghetto was emptied into Treblinka, over 900,000 people were murdered at Treblinka. There weren't 2 million Jews living in Germany at the time, serving in the police, army, as judges and as MPs. There are however 2 million Arabs doing exactly that in Israel. In cities like Haifa Jews and Arabs live cheek by jowl both fed up with the extremists and politicians prolonging the conflict.
Today's is the same situation undermines the argument.


Superbly put
If this were 2969 , Greta would be a leader in anti apartheid or Vietnam activism

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 11:52 - Jun 10 with 635 viewstrampie

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 11:19 - Jun 10 by JACKMANANDBOY

The Warsaw ghetto was emptied into Treblinka, over 900,000 people were murdered at Treblinka. There weren't 2 million Jews living in Germany at the time, serving in the police, army, as judges and as MPs. There are however 2 million Arabs doing exactly that in Israel. In cities like Haifa Jews and Arabs live cheek by jowl both fed up with the extremists and politicians prolonging the conflict.
Today's is the same situation undermines the argument.


You have lost me now, Warsaw is in Poland not Germany and I've seen it said 3 million Jew's were killed in that country out of a Polish Jewish population of 3.4 million Jew's.
I've seen it said there was over 1.5 million Jews in Germany (although I have seen different figures) and seen it said that they were fully integrated into German society in professions just like the ones you have mentioned, some held positions at the top of their armed forces and some of them were awarded the iron cross for fighting our mob I don't know what your point is.

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 11:38 - Jun 10 by onehunglow

Superbly put
If this were 2969 , Greta would be a leader in anti apartheid or Vietnam activism


Isn't that good ?, being anti apartheid and anti Vietnam war, isnt that being on the right side of history and all that ?

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 12:04 - Jun 10 with 601 viewsReslovenSwan1

This is classed as anti semitism by the UK guidance

"Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis".

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 12:35 - Jun 10 with 565 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 11:52 - Jun 10 by trampie

You have lost me now, Warsaw is in Poland not Germany and I've seen it said 3 million Jew's were killed in that country out of a Polish Jewish population of 3.4 million Jew's.
I've seen it said there was over 1.5 million Jews in Germany (although I have seen different figures) and seen it said that they were fully integrated into German society in professions just like the ones you have mentioned, some held positions at the top of their armed forces and some of them were awarded the iron cross for fighting our mob I don't know what your point is.


I think you'll find Germany invaded Poland in 1939.

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 12:45 - Jun 10 with 545 viewstrampie

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 12:35 - Jun 10 by JACKMANANDBOY

I think you'll find Germany invaded Poland in 1939.


Yes I know, but I've no idea what point you are trying to make ?

Do you think that Gaza at this very moment in time is a ghetto ?, no food, no water, no electricity, no medicine, infrastructure turned to rubble, dead and dying everywhere.

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 12:52 - Jun 10 with 533 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 12:45 - Jun 10 by trampie

Yes I know, but I've no idea what point you are trying to make ?

Do you think that Gaza at this very moment in time is a ghetto ?, no food, no water, no electricity, no medicine, infrastructure turned to rubble, dead and dying everywhere.


The situation is obviously intolerable, but your comparison with the treatment of Jews in the Warsaw ghetto is not comparable for obvious reasons.

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 12:57 - Jun 10 with 515 viewstrampie

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 12:52 - Jun 10 by JACKMANANDBOY

The situation is obviously intolerable, but your comparison with the treatment of Jews in the Warsaw ghetto is not comparable for obvious reasons.


It's not my comparison, a ghetto is a ghetto is a ghetto, you are now introducing some kind of a hierarchy of ghetto.

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 12:58 - Jun 10 with 518 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 10:58 - Jun 10 by trampie

Macron ?


No, he's sent put a minister this morning to say that all but one of the French kidnapping victims are refusing to be unkidnapped, farce.

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 13:02 - Jun 10 with 496 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 11:35 - Jun 10 by controversial_jack

A ghetto doesn't have to have the end product like you stated. Many were just starved out and bombed to pieces. This is what is happening


Well the poster said there should be a like for like comparison, I agree with you it's not comparable.

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 13:06 - Jun 10 with 482 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 12:57 - Jun 10 by trampie

It's not my comparison, a ghetto is a ghetto is a ghetto, you are now introducing some kind of a hierarchy of ghetto.


You suggested a comparison, now you are saying there is no difference!
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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 13:16 - Jun 10 with 448 viewstrampie

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 13:06 - Jun 10 by JACKMANANDBOY

You suggested a comparison, now you are saying there is no difference!
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By the way as a point of order I did not suggest a comparison, 'Controversial' (excellent posts again) first mentioned Warsaw then you secondly mentioned Warsaw before I posted anything on the Gaza/Warsaw thing.

I'm saying at this point in time Gaza is a ghetto and at a past point in time Warsaw was a ghetto.

Do you think my above sentence in this post is correct ?
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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 13:26 - Jun 10 with 410 viewscontroversial_jack

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 13:02 - Jun 10 by JACKMANANDBOY

Well the poster said there should be a like for like comparison, I agree with you it's not comparable.


It is comparable, how is it not? The extermination and work camps of 80 years ago were not in the ghettos they were elsewhere, but the conditions are similar in Gaza
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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 13:33 - Jun 10 with 395 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Has Greta been kidnapped? on 13:16 - Jun 10 by trampie

By the way as a point of order I did not suggest a comparison, 'Controversial' (excellent posts again) first mentioned Warsaw then you secondly mentioned Warsaw before I posted anything on the Gaza/Warsaw thing.

I'm saying at this point in time Gaza is a ghetto and at a past point in time Warsaw was a ghetto.

Do you think my above sentence in this post is correct ?
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The situations are different for some of the reasons I have explained, unacceptable but different and that's it.

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Has Greta been kidnapped? on 13:26 - Jun 10 by controversial_jack

It is comparable, how is it not? The extermination and work camps of 80 years ago were not in the ghettos they were elsewhere, but the conditions are similar in Gaza


Another top post by you, you are up there with Kilkenny these days for posting good stuff I am expecting an hierarchy of ghetto post reply, like I said earlier a ghetto is a ghetto is a ghetto.

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