| REFORM POLICIES 10:31 - Jun 18 with 556 views | johnlangy |
Whenever I see Reform politicians being questioned about their policies they never answer the question as to how they will manage to implement them. As there appear to be a number of members of this forum either considering or actually going to vote for them next year perhaps you could explain how they are going to achieve these things.
I'll start with two questions. Please feel free to come up with others as i'm sure we'd all like answers.
1 - Raising the tax free threshold to £20,000. How will they fund the loss of £50 billion in tax revenue ?
2 - Stopping the small boats. How will they do it ? |  | | |  |
| REFORM POLICIES on 11:07 - Jun 18 with 522 views | union_jack |
The same as any other fringe or mainstream party then John.
The thing is that the other major parties in Wales have peed on their chips to differing degrees. Reform are a populist party who are approaching issues close to many’s hearts and will get votes because of that. Enough for a majority in Wales? Well, doubtful but I think whatever side if the fence you sit, a reset is needed. |  |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 12:10 - Jun 18 with 469 views | Scotia |
How will they fund any of their policies?
Who are their candidates for the Senedd elections?
Who will do the jobs currently done by non essential immigrants? | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 12:32 - Jun 18 with 456 views | Boundy |
| REFORM POLICIES on 12:10 - Jun 18 by Scotia |
How will they fund any of their policies?
Who are their candidates for the Senedd elections?
Who will do the jobs currently done by non essential immigrants? |
How will Labour fair if they continue upon this path ? are the Tories a viable option, I can survive without some random guy on an electric bike delivering food I can cook for myself ,obviously others can't + if they're "non essential" why do we need them ?
I'm sure all will be revealed to those who want to see what they have to offer ,there's plenty of links out there. | |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 13:24 - Jun 18 with 431 views | Scotia |
| REFORM POLICIES on 12:32 - Jun 18 by Boundy |
How will Labour fair if they continue upon this path ? are the Tories a viable option, I can survive without some random guy on an electric bike delivering food I can cook for myself ,obviously others can't + if they're "non essential" why do we need them ?
I'm sure all will be revealed to those who want to see what they have to offer ,there's plenty of links out there. |
The delivery guy is potentially working illegally, having sub let the delivery app from someone else.
The non essential immigrants we'll have to do without in a Reform government are social care workers, warehouse workers, factory workers, agricultural workers etc.
The economy depends on them. | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 13:39 - Jun 18 with 415 views | Gwyn737 |
They have the huge advantage of being not being in power before so have never made any mistakes and are unaccountable for anything. For now. Time in local government may or may not flag things to people.
The DOGE stuff they've got going on is farcical but even this may not swing voters because quite frankly it's not particulary interesting stuff.
I still stand by using 'they've got to be better from the other lot' as a reason for voting doesn't really work unless the polices are clear and available. | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 14:08 - Jun 18 with 398 views | Scotia |
| REFORM POLICIES on 13:39 - Jun 18 by Gwyn737 |
They have the huge advantage of being not being in power before so have never made any mistakes and are unaccountable for anything. For now. Time in local government may or may not flag things to people.
The DOGE stuff they've got going on is farcical but even this may not swing voters because quite frankly it's not particulary interesting stuff.
I still stand by using 'they've got to be better from the other lot' as a reason for voting doesn't really work unless the polices are clear and available. |
This is from my Wife's professional body. I know I've posted it before.
https://basw.co.uk/about-social-work/psw-magazine/articles/reform-councillors-ag
This is a bit of a red flag as far as I'm concerned. Imagine this on a national scales. | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 15:06 - Jun 18 with 359 views | Kilkennyjack |
Its a clown show, isn’t it ?
Who is the Reform Leader in Wales ?
The previous fella, well ….. ?
Farage never stopped a boat in his life.
Farage has confirmed they are pro/Senedd though, that will disappoint a fair few on here.
Lets be honest they will get the old Tory vote plus a couple. Thats it. |  |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 15:32 - Jun 18 with 338 views | SullutaCreturned |
I've already done this, John. I asked people how they can vote for Reform when they wouldn't vote Tory.
I asked how they could vote for a party with no policies, not oine that anyone knows about.
Then I asked about the promises they'd made and told people that standing in wales on those promises was nonsense because winning the Senedd eledtions wouldn NOT give them the power to make good on those promises.
Some said they'd wait until the manifesto came out but lets face it, how much of any manifesto is put into practise? A good chunk of it is always quietly forgotten aboutor, as with Starmer, put down as an "ambition" rather than a definite policy.
Other parties, we know what they stand for, we lnow what to expect from Labour, we know what Plaid stand for and we know the tories too. But REFORM, they are just a binch of blusterers hoping to fool the people.
Not to compare Farage to Hitler but stand there blustering and blaming people (like immigrants) for all our woes, making promises they can't keep. It's similar. | | | |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 15:46 - Jun 18 with 305 views | Whiterockin |
| REFORM POLICIES on 15:32 - Jun 18 by SullutaCreturned |
I've already done this, John. I asked people how they can vote for Reform when they wouldn't vote Tory.
I asked how they could vote for a party with no policies, not oine that anyone knows about.
Then I asked about the promises they'd made and told people that standing in wales on those promises was nonsense because winning the Senedd eledtions wouldn NOT give them the power to make good on those promises.
Some said they'd wait until the manifesto came out but lets face it, how much of any manifesto is put into practise? A good chunk of it is always quietly forgotten aboutor, as with Starmer, put down as an "ambition" rather than a definite policy.
Other parties, we know what they stand for, we lnow what to expect from Labour, we know what Plaid stand for and we know the tories too. But REFORM, they are just a binch of blusterers hoping to fool the people.
Not to compare Farage to Hitler but stand there blustering and blaming people (like immigrants) for all our woes, making promises they can't keep. It's similar. |
You have to ask how Reform are still gaining momentum against the more established parties. It's because the other parties have had their chance and screwed up, the public have had enough. |  | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 15:53 - Jun 18 with 288 views | Scotia |
| REFORM POLICIES on 15:46 - Jun 18 by Whiterockin |
You have to ask how Reform are still gaining momentum against the more established parties. It's because the other parties have had their chance and screwed up, the public have had enough. |
They're saying what people want to hear, and people aren't questioning if what they are saying is possible to deliver. | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 16:33 - Jun 18 with 250 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM POLICIES on 15:46 - Jun 18 by Whiterockin |
You have to ask how Reform are still gaining momentum against the more established parties. It's because the other parties have had their chance and screwed up, the public have had enough. |
As I said, shades of the Weimar republic, people have had enough and somebody is shouting loudly they have the answers bit without actually giving any genuine answers, it's all blather and false promises.
Just be grateful a loaf of bread doesn't cost a wheelbarrow full of cash though there is certainly a growing antisemitic feeling. | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 16:36 - Jun 18 with 248 views | Gwyn737 |
| REFORM POLICIES on 16:33 - Jun 18 by SullutaCreturned |
As I said, shades of the Weimar republic, people have had enough and somebody is shouting loudly they have the answers bit without actually giving any genuine answers, it's all blather and false promises.
Just be grateful a loaf of bread doesn't cost a wheelbarrow full of cash though there is certainly a growing antisemitic feeling. |
The term I like for these sort of populist movements/leaders is 'excellent diagnosticians, poor physicians ' | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 16:44 - Jun 18 with 238 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM POLICIES on 16:36 - Jun 18 by Gwyn737 |
The term I like for these sort of populist movements/leaders is 'excellent diagnosticians, poor physicians ' |
That's me that is, I can see what the problem is I just don't have any answers  | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 17:58 - Jun 18 with 196 views | johnlangy |
| REFORM POLICIES on 15:32 - Jun 18 by SullutaCreturned |
I've already done this, John. I asked people how they can vote for Reform when they wouldn't vote Tory.
I asked how they could vote for a party with no policies, not oine that anyone knows about.
Then I asked about the promises they'd made and told people that standing in wales on those promises was nonsense because winning the Senedd eledtions wouldn NOT give them the power to make good on those promises.
Some said they'd wait until the manifesto came out but lets face it, how much of any manifesto is put into practise? A good chunk of it is always quietly forgotten aboutor, as with Starmer, put down as an "ambition" rather than a definite policy.
Other parties, we know what they stand for, we lnow what to expect from Labour, we know what Plaid stand for and we know the tories too. But REFORM, they are just a binch of blusterers hoping to fool the people.
Not to compare Farage to Hitler but stand there blustering and blaming people (like immigrants) for all our woes, making promises they can't keep. It's similar. |
Fair comment cat. It does seem incredibly odd that people who would die before voting Tory would say they are going to vote Reform who are even more right wing.
I just thought there may be some potential Reform voters out there who may provide some kind of answer as to how they believe Reform could achieve what they are promising because sure as hell the Reform politicians aren't.
At the same time it does no harm to have these conversations regularly which highlight how ridiculous are the promises they are making. | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 18:39 - Jun 18 with 151 views | Flashberryjack |
| REFORM POLICIES on 17:58 - Jun 18 by johnlangy |
Fair comment cat. It does seem incredibly odd that people who would die before voting Tory would say they are going to vote Reform who are even more right wing.
I just thought there may be some potential Reform voters out there who may provide some kind of answer as to how they believe Reform could achieve what they are promising because sure as hell the Reform politicians aren't.
At the same time it does no harm to have these conversations regularly which highlight how ridiculous are the promises they are making. |
That's all reform need to do is promise the voters everything they want to hear, then change their minds, it worked for Starmer. |  |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 21:37 - Jun 18 with 69 views | Scotia |
Doesn't seem like any of the questions can be answered? | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 22:32 - Jun 18 with 40 views | AnotherJohn |
| REFORM POLICIES on 16:36 - Jun 18 by Gwyn737 |
The term I like for these sort of populist movements/leaders is 'excellent diagnosticians, poor physicians ' |
A senior medical consultant known to me maintains that all physicians should do is diagnose. He claims that treatment can be delegated to other members of the care team and that the art of clinical practice centres on skilful diagnosis. Obviously this doesn't apply to surgeons. I don't really agree with my acquaintance, but diagnosis is probably the skill most difficult to incorporate into the kind of codification you get in evidence-based medicine or AI-based decision support. | | | |
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