| Farage on devolution. 16:19 - Jun 28 with 4617 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Reform do not support abolishing the Senedd.
https://youtube.com/shorts/Ch-WgPZJQtY?si=Vcko_jked4RzGj2h
I was not aware of this and it has come to my attention. Reform have a value simply in rattling the cage of the other parties.
I consider those wanting to abolish the Senedd as highly unwelcome in Wales. Many on Facebook i have confronted on this matter turned out to be English.
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| Farage on devolution. on 20:09 - Jul 2 with 896 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Farage on devolution. on 19:06 - Jul 2 by SullutaCreturned |
That first paragraph is so absurd even Monty Python would have turned it down. It really does expose what you truly think of Welsh people, you think them mostly to be weakling unable to stand up to be counted. You think them sheep who would blindly walk into oblivion at Westminsters behest.
It is absolutely clear that you're having a laugh and have gone completely hatstand.
PS, you also have no clue about history...Offa's Dyke  |
The Senedd is there d because of our separate identity for mainstream British. It is a fact. Offa's Dyke is a testament to the wish on both sides to live differently.
These things have ex is sted for centuries. The industrial revolution saw mass immigration into the valleys of English Scottish and Irish which caused a decline on separatist sentiment. The Unionist loving Welshmen represent in this forum comes from that particular demographic at a guess.
The separate sense of identity should develop a better sense of pride and civic responsibility. Welsh Labour under the useless Morgan wants to pay thousands of Welsh people to stay at home on benefits and give Starmer a bloody nose. How does that help the community.?
Welsh history is a proud one. The Senedd represents their history of strength on the face of an Anglo Saxon dominated world which Putin and Xi talk about.
It needs better people than Gething and Morgan for sure. | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 21:13 - Jul 2 with 870 views | max936 |
| Farage on devolution. on 01:00 - Jul 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Your understanding of history is very poor. Without our history and the Senedd in recent times there would be no Cymru no FAW no football side no rugby team and we would have be assimilated like the Cornish Celtic people were.
The Senedd is only as good as the Welsh people or other people vote into the place. Even Farage says this. Wales s jobs grief now is related to Brexit which the Welsh people voted for including the people of NPT.
Welsh Labour are now preventing Starmer getting to grips with the finances. If they mess about too much the people they claim to care for will be exposed to Reform policies which will be brutal. |
It would be deemed poor by you because as always your narrative is way behind most peoples.
You've no time for Farage until what he says suits you, you two are very much alike, full of whataboutery and gobbledygook.
Hope you got your pencil ready to tick Reforms box come election time. [Post edited 2 Jul 21:19]
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| Farage on devolution. on 23:18 - Jul 3 with 768 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Farage on devolution. on 21:13 - Jul 2 by max936 |
It would be deemed poor by you because as always your narrative is way behind most peoples.
You've no time for Farage until what he says suits you, you two are very much alike, full of whataboutery and gobbledygook.
Hope you got your pencil ready to tick Reforms box come election time. [Post edited 2 Jul 21:19]
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I will not be voting for Reform. I presented the thread to demonstrate that no political party supports abolishing the Senedd. Hopefully it is here to stay.
Many voices support abolishing it . When I have enquired as to why it turns out the abolishinists are not even Welsh in many cases
I call on Welsh people to respect their own history of resistance and respect the Sened. (Which you do not) .
I have explained without the blood split by YOUR forefathers there would be no Senedd. This assumes you are Welsh and proud of being Welsh. You could be adopted Welsh of course from English or Scottish heritage. Most probably mixed. That is good too.
I do not care just love the country where we have come from and where we are going. Abolish the Senedd would be in my eyes be betrayal of my ancestors. English historian portray Welsh as a beaten nation. It is fake. [Post edited 3 Jul 23:21]
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| Farage on devolution. on 23:49 - Jul 3 with 759 views | max936 |
| Farage on devolution. on 23:18 - Jul 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I will not be voting for Reform. I presented the thread to demonstrate that no political party supports abolishing the Senedd. Hopefully it is here to stay.
Many voices support abolishing it . When I have enquired as to why it turns out the abolishinists are not even Welsh in many cases
I call on Welsh people to respect their own history of resistance and respect the Sened. (Which you do not) .
I have explained without the blood split by YOUR forefathers there would be no Senedd. This assumes you are Welsh and proud of being Welsh. You could be adopted Welsh of course from English or Scottish heritage. Most probably mixed. That is good too.
I do not care just love the country where we have come from and where we are going. Abolish the Senedd would be in my eyes be betrayal of my ancestors. English historian portray Welsh as a beaten nation. It is fake. [Post edited 3 Jul 23:21]
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"Most probably mixed" the only thing mixed is your mind as you keep proving over and over and don't ever assume or judge me.
You've got this false self opinionated arrogant view that you are always right [which your not it has been proved that you are wrong countless times] and you think you are better than others' I got news for you, you are not. | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 14:33 - Jul 4 with 712 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Farage on devolution. on 23:49 - Jul 3 by max936 |
"Most probably mixed" the only thing mixed is your mind as you keep proving over and over and don't ever assume or judge me.
You've got this false self opinionated arrogant view that you are always right [which your not it has been proved that you are wrong countless times] and you think you are better than others' I got news for you, you are not. |
So a I am not allowed to " judge' you. Why not exactly.? If you do not want to be judged do not post.
Being called arrogant or thinking I am better than other is also not a problem. Many fans here are pretty low level people who sing filth about themselves to please those taunting them.
There no where to hide when there is free speech. I do not expect to be liked. Respect your own people. We can run our own affair in peace and commitment | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 15:14 - Jul 4 with 681 views | Boundy |
| Farage on devolution. on 14:33 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
So a I am not allowed to " judge' you. Why not exactly.? If you do not want to be judged do not post.
Being called arrogant or thinking I am better than other is also not a problem. Many fans here are pretty low level people who sing filth about themselves to please those taunting them.
There no where to hide when there is free speech. I do not expect to be liked. Respect your own people. We can run our own affair in peace and commitment |
This shower of shite in Cardiff have proven they're not capable of running a bath let alone a country, the only traitors of Wales are the dopes who keep supporting labour and support the current legislative body. |  |
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| Farage on devolution. on 15:16 - Jul 4 with 681 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Farage on devolution. on 20:09 - Jul 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The Senedd is there d because of our separate identity for mainstream British. It is a fact. Offa's Dyke is a testament to the wish on both sides to live differently.
These things have ex is sted for centuries. The industrial revolution saw mass immigration into the valleys of English Scottish and Irish which caused a decline on separatist sentiment. The Unionist loving Welshmen represent in this forum comes from that particular demographic at a guess.
The separate sense of identity should develop a better sense of pride and civic responsibility. Welsh Labour under the useless Morgan wants to pay thousands of Welsh people to stay at home on benefits and give Starmer a bloody nose. How does that help the community.?
Welsh history is a proud one. The Senedd represents their history of strength on the face of an Anglo Saxon dominated world which Putin and Xi talk about.
It needs better people than Gething and Morgan for sure. |
Ha ha, tryingto change the lines again eh, you stated that Offa's dyke was...
The Anglo Saxons / Normans could not conquer Wales. They had a buffer zone and build a ditch because of cost benefit considerations.
The Normans had no hand in digging Offa's dyke, it was built around 780, 286 years before the Normans.
the Romans brought mass immigration into wales long before the industrial revolution. Legio 11 Augusta was stationed at Caerleon and brought lots of "europeans" with them, do a DNA test and lets see how Welsh YOU are. Or just do an etymology search of your surname and see where it comes from. You think you are ALL Welsh, you could be 30% Spanish
Welsh history is full of infighting, deceit and greed, like most other tribal societies.
Lastly, Offa's dyke was built to keep the Celtic tribes out of Mercia, the Welsh had nothimg to do with it. Offa was fed up of getting raided by the Celts across the border. | | | |
| Farage on devolution. on 15:23 - Jul 4 with 657 views | Whiterockin |
| Farage on devolution. on 15:16 - Jul 4 by SullutaCreturned |
Ha ha, tryingto change the lines again eh, you stated that Offa's dyke was...
The Anglo Saxons / Normans could not conquer Wales. They had a buffer zone and build a ditch because of cost benefit considerations.
The Normans had no hand in digging Offa's dyke, it was built around 780, 286 years before the Normans.
the Romans brought mass immigration into wales long before the industrial revolution. Legio 11 Augusta was stationed at Caerleon and brought lots of "europeans" with them, do a DNA test and lets see how Welsh YOU are. Or just do an etymology search of your surname and see where it comes from. You think you are ALL Welsh, you could be 30% Spanish
Welsh history is full of infighting, deceit and greed, like most other tribal societies.
Lastly, Offa's dyke was built to keep the Celtic tribes out of Mercia, the Welsh had nothimg to do with it. Offa was fed up of getting raided by the Celts across the border. |
Not more pesky facts to make him look ridiculous again. You know it's bullying.  |  | | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 15:47 - Jul 4 with 633 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Farage on devolution. on 15:16 - Jul 4 by SullutaCreturned |
Ha ha, tryingto change the lines again eh, you stated that Offa's dyke was...
The Anglo Saxons / Normans could not conquer Wales. They had a buffer zone and build a ditch because of cost benefit considerations.
The Normans had no hand in digging Offa's dyke, it was built around 780, 286 years before the Normans.
the Romans brought mass immigration into wales long before the industrial revolution. Legio 11 Augusta was stationed at Caerleon and brought lots of "europeans" with them, do a DNA test and lets see how Welsh YOU are. Or just do an etymology search of your surname and see where it comes from. You think you are ALL Welsh, you could be 30% Spanish
Welsh history is full of infighting, deceit and greed, like most other tribal societies.
Lastly, Offa's dyke was built to keep the Celtic tribes out of Mercia, the Welsh had nothimg to do with it. Offa was fed up of getting raided by the Celts across the border. |
I was presenting the case that various people like the Anglo Saxon and Norman had enormous trouble taking Wales entirely. The Norman had lot more trouble than taking modern day England for example. They took Shrews bury in 1069.
Offa's dike was another indication the Wales was a very tough bit to crack. I am proud of this. Remember the Norman Anglo Saxon force were fearsome in their own right. Putin and others refer the the brutal Anglo Saxon world.
My argument is this struggle which last 500 years longer that England should be something to be proud of. No English historian will say this of course. They even refuse to use the word Celt.
I argue the Senedd is a testament to this struggle and it is disloyal to give any thought to abolishing it.
Reform have a change to practice their policies on Wales is f that is what the people want. I recommend against it.
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| Farage on devolution. on 16:06 - Jul 4 with 618 views | raynor94 |
| Farage on devolution. on 15:47 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I was presenting the case that various people like the Anglo Saxon and Norman had enormous trouble taking Wales entirely. The Norman had lot more trouble than taking modern day England for example. They took Shrews bury in 1069.
Offa's dike was another indication the Wales was a very tough bit to crack. I am proud of this. Remember the Norman Anglo Saxon force were fearsome in their own right. Putin and others refer the the brutal Anglo Saxon world.
My argument is this struggle which last 500 years longer that England should be something to be proud of. No English historian will say this of course. They even refuse to use the word Celt.
I argue the Senedd is a testament to this struggle and it is disloyal to give any thought to abolishing it.
Reform have a change to practice their policies on Wales is f that is what the people want. I recommend against it.
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| Farage on devolution. on 16:32 - Jul 4 with 610 views | onehunglow |
| Farage on devolution. on 16:06 - Jul 4 by raynor94 |
Well I'm disloyal then |
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| Farage on devolution. on 16:32 - Jul 4 with 610 views | onehunglow |
| Farage on devolution. on 16:06 - Jul 4 by raynor94 |
Well I'm disloyal then |
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| Farage on devolution. on 18:56 - Jul 4 with 566 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Farage on devolution. on 15:47 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I was presenting the case that various people like the Anglo Saxon and Norman had enormous trouble taking Wales entirely. The Norman had lot more trouble than taking modern day England for example. They took Shrews bury in 1069.
Offa's dike was another indication the Wales was a very tough bit to crack. I am proud of this. Remember the Norman Anglo Saxon force were fearsome in their own right. Putin and others refer the the brutal Anglo Saxon world.
My argument is this struggle which last 500 years longer that England should be something to be proud of. No English historian will say this of course. They even refuse to use the word Celt.
I argue the Senedd is a testament to this struggle and it is disloyal to give any thought to abolishing it.
Reform have a change to practice their policies on Wales is f that is what the people want. I recommend against it.
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Your argument is wrong. The Normans chose to go slowly into Wales. Offa's dyke was built to stop us raiding Mercia and Wales was subjugated by Edward Longshanks in 1297. Signing a piece of paper in 1536 doesn't change that fact.
The Senedd is a testament to modern politics and Tony Blairs stupidity, it doesn't have full powers which (if devolution was to happen properly) isn't right or fair.
Wanting what is best for Wales isn't disloyal, your statement is ridiculous.
The last sentence, what the heck is that? Seriously, are you dyslexic?
PS, I don;t see how anybody in Wales can vote reform if they wouldn't vote tory. Reform are shysters. | | | |
| Farage on devolution. on 20:31 - Jul 4 with 529 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Farage on devolution. on 16:32 - Jul 4 by onehunglow |
And probably an anglo too
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Yes you in Cymru terms are a sell out. You have making out you have left for a bigger better life. Good for you.
The flagmen are also sell outs . They are terrified of Welsh independence. They use Unionist flags. They want all Welsh matters to be directed from London. To do this they suggest Welsh people cannot run their own affairs. All Governments are currently unpopular all over Europe. Nothing new there.
There is not thing wrong in being Unionist. This forum s regulars have a strong Anglo stance They will not even criticise Bristol city fans trashing Cardiff city centre while singing anti welsh ethnic slurs. When Raheem Sterling gets in the get highly emotional and furious. It is because he is English and must be respected. Skysports said so. | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 20:33 - Jul 4 with 525 views | raynor94 |
| Farage on devolution. on 20:31 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Yes you in Cymru terms are a sell out. You have making out you have left for a bigger better life. Good for you.
The flagmen are also sell outs . They are terrified of Welsh independence. They use Unionist flags. They want all Welsh matters to be directed from London. To do this they suggest Welsh people cannot run their own affairs. All Governments are currently unpopular all over Europe. Nothing new there.
There is not thing wrong in being Unionist. This forum s regulars have a strong Anglo stance They will not even criticise Bristol city fans trashing Cardiff city centre while singing anti welsh ethnic slurs. When Raheem Sterling gets in the get highly emotional and furious. It is because he is English and must be respected. Skysports said so. |
What happened in Cardiff? | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 21:46 - Jul 4 with 488 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Farage on devolution. on 20:31 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Yes you in Cymru terms are a sell out. You have making out you have left for a bigger better life. Good for you.
The flagmen are also sell outs . They are terrified of Welsh independence. They use Unionist flags. They want all Welsh matters to be directed from London. To do this they suggest Welsh people cannot run their own affairs. All Governments are currently unpopular all over Europe. Nothing new there.
There is not thing wrong in being Unionist. This forum s regulars have a strong Anglo stance They will not even criticise Bristol city fans trashing Cardiff city centre while singing anti welsh ethnic slurs. When Raheem Sterling gets in the get highly emotional and furious. It is because he is English and must be respected. Skysports said so. |
It is not an Anglo stance, it is a UK stance.
Question, would the Swans be better off staying in the English leagues or better of moving to the Welsh league?
Sirely the Swans staying in the EFL makes them sell outs too?
What about all those Welsh players who leave Wales to play in English teams? | | | |
| Farage on devolution. on 23:31 - Jul 4 with 452 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Farage on devolution. on 21:46 - Jul 4 by SullutaCreturned |
It is not an Anglo stance, it is a UK stance.
Question, would the Swans be better off staying in the English leagues or better of moving to the Welsh league?
Sirely the Swans staying in the EFL makes them sell outs too?
What about all those Welsh players who leave Wales to play in English teams? |
This is a non football thread. Professional football is a special case.
If there is no Senedd there is no FAW or Welsh team, Our ancestors created all the trappings of a separate identity.
Yo cannot pick and chose. Senedd. Wales Football. Wales Rugby. back them all. Thy can all do better of course.
We have recognition honour and peace. Do not mess with it. | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 00:21 - Jul 5 with 439 views | max936 |
| Farage on devolution. on 14:33 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
So a I am not allowed to " judge' you. Why not exactly.? If you do not want to be judged do not post.
Being called arrogant or thinking I am better than other is also not a problem. Many fans here are pretty low level people who sing filth about themselves to please those taunting them.
There no where to hide when there is free speech. I do not expect to be liked. Respect your own people. We can run our own affair in peace and commitment |
You don't know nothing about me or how I live my life to judge me or my heritage, I am nothing like you thankfully.
Pretty low level there's no one absolutely no one lower than you with your abhorrent views and disgusting comments on various things, you've posted filth far worse than a silly juvenile chant sung at a football stadium, but you are far to arrogant and dumb to realise it there's more than enough there to judge you and your mentality so you are very easy to judge, I sussed you out very early on and then more and more posters started to see what I saw.
I know more than a few people in Resolven some are very good friends of mine and none are like you. | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 11:40 - Jul 5 with 375 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Farage on devolution. on 23:31 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
This is a non football thread. Professional football is a special case.
If there is no Senedd there is no FAW or Welsh team, Our ancestors created all the trappings of a separate identity.
Yo cannot pick and chose. Senedd. Wales Football. Wales Rugby. back them all. Thy can all do better of course.
We have recognition honour and peace. Do not mess with it. |
You know why I asked the question and you gave the answer I expected from a hypocrite.
The FAW and Welsh team existed for a long time before there was a Senedd but you carry on making absurd claims.
Football and rugby, other Welsh teams, they existed before the Senedd happened. How do you explain that?
I'm not picking and choosing, you are, you don't want any anglo leanings in Wales yet you want our football team to have anglo leanings because they are a "special case" and then, when it suits you, you denigrate other Welsh people by the thousand. You come across as someone who thinks themself so superior. You judge others all the time, you criticse others for anything you consider "un-Welsh" then you denigrate Welsh people en masse. | | | |
| Farage on devolution. on 12:24 - Jul 5 with 348 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Farage on devolution. on 00:21 - Jul 5 by max936 |
You don't know nothing about me or how I live my life to judge me or my heritage, I am nothing like you thankfully.
Pretty low level there's no one absolutely no one lower than you with your abhorrent views and disgusting comments on various things, you've posted filth far worse than a silly juvenile chant sung at a football stadium, but you are far to arrogant and dumb to realise it there's more than enough there to judge you and your mentality so you are very easy to judge, I sussed you out very early on and then more and more posters started to see what I saw.
I know more than a few people in Resolven some are very good friends of mine and none are like you. |
Not sure what you means to be honest. I have gone in hard on some sub par behaviour by Swansea and Wales fans. It hit home obviously.
I had one warning once from the notorious Moderator D but that was for suggesting there was a clique on here. I accepted his or her adjudication. | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 12:39 - Jul 5 with 319 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Farage on devolution. on 11:40 - Jul 5 by SullutaCreturned |
You know why I asked the question and you gave the answer I expected from a hypocrite.
The FAW and Welsh team existed for a long time before there was a Senedd but you carry on making absurd claims.
Football and rugby, other Welsh teams, they existed before the Senedd happened. How do you explain that?
I'm not picking and choosing, you are, you don't want any anglo leanings in Wales yet you want our football team to have anglo leanings because they are a "special case" and then, when it suits you, you denigrate other Welsh people by the thousand. You come across as someone who thinks themself so superior. You judge others all the time, you criticse others for anything you consider "un-Welsh" then you denigrate Welsh people en masse. |
The pre Senedd arrangement for football in Wales was chaotic and had no logical structure. Welsh teams playing in Europe with no league was ill logical.
In 1999 and before we got our act together and created a Welsh league and a Welsh Parliament.
I do not support the idea of Swansea getting into Euro s with the Welsh cup as it went back to the old illogical ways. Fans sus not give a jif about this and were worried about player burnout and some even thinking it unfair to our rivals (that as laughable).
If you are against the Senedd you are against Wales. Remember the people of Wales chose who goes into the Senedd by proportional representation.
I have tried to give some indication to people that the Senedd is a real important thing to Wales. Welsh people fought for it for at least 500 years. We are not a beaten nation. Second city syndrome moaning is irreverent. | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 13:02 - Jul 5 with 292 views | raynor94 |
| Farage on devolution. on 12:24 - Jul 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Not sure what you means to be honest. I have gone in hard on some sub par behaviour by Swansea and Wales fans. It hit home obviously.
I had one warning once from the notorious Moderator D but that was for suggesting there was a clique on here. I accepted his or her adjudication. |
There's no clique, it's just you are the most disliked poster on here | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 13:25 - Jul 5 with 280 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Farage on devolution. on 13:02 - Jul 5 by raynor94 |
There's no clique, it's just you are the most disliked poster on here |
43 votes in POTY says otherwise. I did not get enough nominations for 2024 and would probably cleaned out again.
I My view t do not align with the general consensus on here led by the much loved ex copper from Merseyside.. He trashed Wales and has done for decades. He is entitled to his opinion.. | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 13:47 - Jul 5 with 270 views | raynor94 |
| Farage on devolution. on 13:25 - Jul 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
43 votes in POTY says otherwise. I did not get enough nominations for 2024 and would probably cleaned out again.
I My view t do not align with the general consensus on here led by the much loved ex copper from Merseyside.. He trashed Wales and has done for decades. He is entitled to his opinion.. |
43 votes was a joke that sadly backfired, and your goading of OHL is pitiful but it just reinforces the type of individual you are | |
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| Farage on devolution. on 14:04 - Jul 5 with 247 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Farage on devolution. on 12:39 - Jul 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The pre Senedd arrangement for football in Wales was chaotic and had no logical structure. Welsh teams playing in Europe with no league was ill logical.
In 1999 and before we got our act together and created a Welsh league and a Welsh Parliament.
I do not support the idea of Swansea getting into Euro s with the Welsh cup as it went back to the old illogical ways. Fans sus not give a jif about this and were worried about player burnout and some even thinking it unfair to our rivals (that as laughable).
If you are against the Senedd you are against Wales. Remember the people of Wales chose who goes into the Senedd by proportional representation.
I have tried to give some indication to people that the Senedd is a real important thing to Wales. Welsh people fought for it for at least 500 years. We are not a beaten nation. Second city syndrome moaning is irreverent. |
Absolute nonsense again. The Senedd didn't organise the LoW structure, the FAW did. Sport and politics are seperate.
I am against the Senedd of the last 25 years because they have been bad for Wales, my opinion will change if the Senedd improves. I have been against a lot of Westminster governments because they have been bad for the UK, that' how democracy works. When the Senedd makes anti-democracy changes don't expect me to support them. It doesn't mean I am against Wales in any way. You need to remember after those changes the people don't choose who, they choose the party and then Labour will choose who represents you, anti-democratic.
Welsh people who fought for 500 years didn't fight for the Senedd, they fought for independence, they would quite likely view the Senedd as a sop to shut up the ignorant, it doesn't even have as many powers as Scotland which is where I agree with Kilkenny, without full powers it's a joke.
The Senedd is running wales into the ground and if you support that then YOU are against Wales. | | | |
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