| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 07:24 - Oct 1 with 1787 views | Dr_Winston |
Bugger the playoffs. We can make the autos if we get our shit fully together. The division is even more average than usual this season.
Would be sitting in second place right now if we'd held on against Hull and Birmingham. |  |
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| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 08:17 - Oct 1 with 1675 views | 1983 |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 07:24 - Oct 1 by Dr_Winston |
Bugger the playoffs. We can make the autos if we get our shit fully together. The division is even more average than usual this season.
Would be sitting in second place right now if we'd held on against Hull and Birmingham. |
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| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:24 - Oct 1 with 1523 views | onehunglow |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 23:02 - Sep 30 by Fireboy2 |
Cantwell dived.
Not surprised that you are giving digs even after a deserved win.
Btw i didnt see you tonight, were you busy? Again 😏 [Post edited 30 Sep 23:06]
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Hi Ed
Yes I was
Been in Nantwich with my wife who’s cousin has had a stroke
We’re going there on a regular basis as she’s recovering slowly
Few other issues too here
I did manage to get back to watch the game but family first , mate
I’d like to go to Preston but my fellow Wirral Jack will be away on Nov 5 th although Smoulder might fancy it but we’ve not seen each other for a few years which is a shame as he’s a top bloke
It’s a shame it’s on a midweek really
I’d have to find a better place to park though rather than the Moor Park social club
Stay well |  |
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| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:31 - Oct 1 with 1505 views | Fireboy2 |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 07:24 - Oct 1 by Dr_Winston |
Bugger the playoffs. We can make the autos if we get our shit fully together. The division is even more average than usual this season.
Would be sitting in second place right now if we'd held on against Hull and Birmingham. |
I think we got one back from Saturday last night.
For me cantwell simulated a fall when burgess slid in and luckily for us the ref thought the same but I truly believe we could have got another as the subs upped our attack a bit
Not counting hull but if vips goal had stood and we had slotted one of the two pens we should have had on Saturday we would be as you say be second.
I too agree that this league is the most competitive for years and as you say we should be aiming higher than the play offs.
The next few months will show how strong and competitive our squad is, if we are up there at the turn of the year I can see us delving into the transfer market as imo we need another out and out striker to help vip out as idah isn't that sort of player. |  | | |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:42 - Oct 1 with 1460 views | swan65split |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 07:24 - Oct 1 by Dr_Winston |
Bugger the playoffs. We can make the autos if we get our shit fully together. The division is even more average than usual this season.
Would be sitting in second place right now if we'd held on against Hull and Birmingham. |
I am actually surprised how average it is looking considering the clubs that are in there,
as you say if we get our act together we can kick on, the impression I had last night is the playerss themselves look as if they lack that belief . |  | | |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:47 - Oct 1 with 1440 views | raynor94 |
To show how competitive it is 6 out of 8 games were draws last night and 7 out of 12 were draws the weekend it shows how little there is between the teams this season |  |
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| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:49 - Oct 1 with 1433 views | Dr_Winston |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:31 - Oct 1 by Fireboy2 |
I think we got one back from Saturday last night.
For me cantwell simulated a fall when burgess slid in and luckily for us the ref thought the same but I truly believe we could have got another as the subs upped our attack a bit
Not counting hull but if vips goal had stood and we had slotted one of the two pens we should have had on Saturday we would be as you say be second.
I too agree that this league is the most competitive for years and as you say we should be aiming higher than the play offs.
The next few months will show how strong and competitive our squad is, if we are up there at the turn of the year I can see us delving into the transfer market as imo we need another out and out striker to help vip out as idah isn't that sort of player. |
Maybe between them Cullen and Idah can make up a decent support striker for Vip. They offer different things so as an aggregate there might be something there. Wouldn't be surprised to see Wales feature more going forward either. Think we're taking our time with him.
The conundrum for me is the midfield. So many things could be unlocked with a more creative approach. I'm really curious as.to the situation with Widell as I don't think he's had anything approaching a fair chance yet. Hopefully it's just a knock. | |
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| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:04 - Oct 1 with 1369 views | onehunglow |
I may be wrong but wasn’t he supposed to be our marquee signing
A young dynamic gifted starlet who we ensured came to us
He’s hardly had a sniff , rather like Wales
We’ve spent years looking for strikers , now we seem to have real firepower which is great
Sheehan hasn’t settled on midfield yet and we hope he does soon
We could well be capable of ripping teams to shreds
We can finish , just give them the chances
Fireboy mentioned the Centre Backs and I agree they are a good pairing
Cabango a top young pro and Burgess truly genuine
It’s a level league | |
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| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:23 - Oct 1 with 1327 views | jack247 |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:49 - Oct 1 by Dr_Winston |
Maybe between them Cullen and Idah can make up a decent support striker for Vip. They offer different things so as an aggregate there might be something there. Wouldn't be surprised to see Wales feature more going forward either. Think we're taking our time with him.
The conundrum for me is the midfield. So many things could be unlocked with a more creative approach. I'm really curious as.to the situation with Widell as I don't think he's had anything approaching a fair chance yet. Hopefully it's just a knock. |
Cullen is now in the same boat as Fulton in that they aren’t starters, but they’d be first choice from the bench in specific scenarios.
We’ve got better strikers than him and we’ve got better midfielders than him. We don’t have anyone who combines the roles as well as him. Nor do we have anyone as good at finding space in the final third.
Similarly, Fulton is probably fifth choice as a starter, but if it’s a physical battle or we’re being aerially bombarded and we’re hanging on for a result, he’s the best in the squad (bar maybe Stamenic if he isn’t already on the pitch) to bring on for 20/30 minutes. | | | |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:26 - Oct 1 with 1316 views | Fireboy2 |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:49 - Oct 1 by Dr_Winston |
Maybe between them Cullen and Idah can make up a decent support striker for Vip. They offer different things so as an aggregate there might be something there. Wouldn't be surprised to see Wales feature more going forward either. Think we're taking our time with him.
The conundrum for me is the midfield. So many things could be unlocked with a more creative approach. I'm really curious as.to the situation with Widell as I don't think he's had anything approaching a fair chance yet. Hopefully it's just a knock. |
Yeah surprised not to see melker the last two games but I just think hes a stronger version of olly cooper, I suspect hes getting help from the coaching team to fine tune what he needs to push on.
Yes perhaps you are correct re idah and cullen, they do bring something different as was seen last night, its good to have different options on the bench.
I think you are right re wales, he was brought in as an investment, hopefully we could see him soon. | | | |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:03 - Oct 1 with 1188 views | union_jack |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:31 - Oct 1 by Fireboy2 |
I think we got one back from Saturday last night.
For me cantwell simulated a fall when burgess slid in and luckily for us the ref thought the same but I truly believe we could have got another as the subs upped our attack a bit
Not counting hull but if vips goal had stood and we had slotted one of the two pens we should have had on Saturday we would be as you say be second.
I too agree that this league is the most competitive for years and as you say we should be aiming higher than the play offs.
The next few months will show how strong and competitive our squad is, if we are up there at the turn of the year I can see us delving into the transfer market as imo we need another out and out striker to help vip out as idah isn't that sort of player. |
I’ve seen the pen incident again. At first I agreed with you, he slipped. But on seeing the slo-mo it looks like Burgess took his leg away.
When I saw it live last night I thought definite pen but I can see why the ref had some doubt. Still, as many have said, we deserved some luck like that.
Be interesting to see what VAR would have made if it having not been given on field. |  |
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| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:21 - Oct 1 with 1147 views | Boundy |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:24 - Oct 1 by onehunglow |
Hi Ed
Yes I was
Been in Nantwich with my wife who’s cousin has had a stroke
We’re going there on a regular basis as she’s recovering slowly
Few other issues too here
I did manage to get back to watch the game but family first , mate
I’d like to go to Preston but my fellow Wirral Jack will be away on Nov 5 th although Smoulder might fancy it but we’ve not seen each other for a few years which is a shame as he’s a top bloke
It’s a shame it’s on a midweek really
I’d have to find a better place to park though rather than the Moor Park social club
Stay well |
I've only parked once in Moor Park with no issues , I did on my last visit to Preston manage to park up in Fulwood Barracks just up the road , as it was where I was first posted,. I managed to cadge a parking spot there . | |
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| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:27 - Oct 1 with 1139 views | Legend83 |
A great scrappy win where for once we got a couple of decisions go our way. Great to see Idah with a positive contribution, will helpfully give the lad a platform of confidence.
My only concern is Sheehan seems unable to get a balanced midfield, instead seemingly squeezing players in - Galbreith is wasted in the 10 role and has been visibly worse by his standards over the last couple of games. This shift seems to be to fit Stamenic in the CDM/quarterback role which I thought he was poor at last night to be honest. He seemed to follow his marker around rather than drop in and make himself available to Burgess / Cabango who then had to go out wide every time (apart from the few times Galbreith dropped back - he IS good at this).
I prefer the trio of Galbreith, Yalcoue and Franco (albeit Stamenic is a good player). | | | |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:56 - Oct 1 with 1096 views | RichardO |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:27 - Oct 1 by Legend83 |
A great scrappy win where for once we got a couple of decisions go our way. Great to see Idah with a positive contribution, will helpfully give the lad a platform of confidence.
My only concern is Sheehan seems unable to get a balanced midfield, instead seemingly squeezing players in - Galbreith is wasted in the 10 role and has been visibly worse by his standards over the last couple of games. This shift seems to be to fit Stamenic in the CDM/quarterback role which I thought he was poor at last night to be honest. He seemed to follow his marker around rather than drop in and make himself available to Burgess / Cabango who then had to go out wide every time (apart from the few times Galbreith dropped back - he IS good at this).
I prefer the trio of Galbreith, Yalcoue and Franco (albeit Stamenic is a good player). |
Is Stamenic playing a little conservative dropping deep a bit too much? His movement into space in the middle of the park is still good offering himself but playing so deep gets us playing in tight situations in the middle again resulting in the safe option being used, the back pass, acceptable away from home? Left footed Benson on the right or is he just two footed tucked into the middle but did that allow too much room for their overlapping fullbacks hence causing problems for our fullback who also tucks in when he is not further forward than his winger.
The one thing I really don't like is the backing off of our fullbacks resulting in crosses or being pushed back into the dangers of the penalty box at some point they need to get themselves in between the ball and the winger but they need quick cover to allow them to make the challenge. | | | |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 13:24 - Oct 1 with 1042 views | jack247 |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:03 - Oct 1 by union_jack |
I’ve seen the pen incident again. At first I agreed with you, he slipped. But on seeing the slo-mo it looks like Burgess took his leg away.
When I saw it live last night I thought definite pen but I can see why the ref had some doubt. Still, as many have said, we deserved some luck like that.
Be interesting to see what VAR would have made if it having not been given on field. |
I don’t think VAR would have overruled the ref on that whether he’d given it or not. You can easily make a case either way.
In real time I thought it was a pen. From some of the replays Burgess seems to catch him, others he doesn’t. Definitely played for it. | | | |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 13:33 - Oct 1 with 1034 views | Legend83 |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:56 - Oct 1 by RichardO |
Is Stamenic playing a little conservative dropping deep a bit too much? His movement into space in the middle of the park is still good offering himself but playing so deep gets us playing in tight situations in the middle again resulting in the safe option being used, the back pass, acceptable away from home? Left footed Benson on the right or is he just two footed tucked into the middle but did that allow too much room for their overlapping fullbacks hence causing problems for our fullback who also tucks in when he is not further forward than his winger.
The one thing I really don't like is the backing off of our fullbacks resulting in crosses or being pushed back into the dangers of the penalty box at some point they need to get themselves in between the ball and the winger but they need quick cover to allow them to make the challenge. |
I don't disagree to an extent but if you watch the match back, Stamenic got into a habit of drifting across the deep-middle WITH the opposing player instead of looking for pockets. So Cabango or Burgess would be trying to bring it out central but often had to then look out wide or go long as Stamenic wasn't often giving them the pass option.
Contrast with Galbreith who when playing the deep-lying role has looked, dare I say it, very Leon Britton-esque, dropping into pockets demanding the ball and being skillful enough to get away from pressing opposition players. Last night Galbreith was a little anonymous at times playing much higher up and to the left of the pitch in general than previous. | | | |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 18:45 - Oct 1 with 738 views | shingle |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 22:05 - Sep 30 by raynor94 |
Im surprised at your post you said after Saturday we were where we deserved to be middle table no better |
And I expect that is where we will end up, hense pleased thus far and would love to be proved wrong. | | | |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 20:17 - Oct 1 with 634 views | onehunglow |
Boys
Basicsstop allowing wide men having free rein to cross and give us problems
Key and Tymon terrible defenders
Our midfield is varied snd talented
We have real strike force
We need to get it forward and quicker
Greater the faff , greater the risk
We give ourselves problems Key
We Gould maybe should be top of the league
Leicester massive reality check
Arrogant Kent’s for fans who can be put in their box
Do it | |
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| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 07:57 - Oct 2 with 478 views | RichardO |
| Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Match day thread on 13:33 - Oct 1 by Legend83 |
I don't disagree to an extent but if you watch the match back, Stamenic got into a habit of drifting across the deep-middle WITH the opposing player instead of looking for pockets. So Cabango or Burgess would be trying to bring it out central but often had to then look out wide or go long as Stamenic wasn't often giving them the pass option.
Contrast with Galbreith who when playing the deep-lying role has looked, dare I say it, very Leon Britton-esque, dropping into pockets demanding the ball and being skillful enough to get away from pressing opposition players. Last night Galbreith was a little anonymous at times playing much higher up and to the left of the pitch in general than previous. |
That habit of the "defensive" midfielder drifting along with the opposition midfielder does seem be one that our midfield get stuck or drawn into, forgetting the movement that is needed to create options as we play out from the back, the deeper we drop back the more that movement is needed to try and find space, you often find a similar thing happens with the "attacking" midfielders they push up the field because we need to attack allowing themselves to be marked at times when they become somewhat static, it creates a hole in the midfield that stops the flow of the ball up the park leaving little options for defenders and wingers to find options through the middle.
When things get or need to be tight the movement in the middle ebbs somewhat making long balls or backward passes the only options.
Galbraith does seem to have a lot of movement and very quick feet to get him out of tight situations, Stamenic uses quick one touch football to make the space pass and go maybe he is being asked to hold in a defensive shape a bit so you get the pass but not the go so much, as you say you have to have the go, the quick movement to make space and pull your marker all over the place as we have possession of the ball and are looking for options, you cannot let that tempo drop too low otherwise everything becomes too slow, all for slowing the game down at times but that needs to be with the aim of being ready to up the tempo once in possession of the ball and the opposition makes an error, Cullen's goal was typical of that, the mistake is pounced on and quick reactions result in goals but you have to create or force the opposition's mistakes at times. If your fullbacks are pushing on all the time then the midfield has to cover and end up dropping back, we need to be less predictable we seem to have players who can change the point of attack but they have to know that they will be covered if they do push on. O'Brien did a lot of good covering work for his attacking fullbacks but sometimes the full backs need to hold to allow the midfielder press on to change the point of attack.
Not sure if it is the mindset of the midfielders I must hold my allotted position instead of allowing themselves the fluidity of their game to push on knowing cover will be provided by teammates. | | | |
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