| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce 10:23 - Oct 5 with 2678 views | Standishdale |
Names being mentioned by the fans include Jim, Savage and Evatt. |  | | |  |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 11:39 - Oct 5 with 2553 views | TalkingSutty |
The suggestion is that Evatt is lined up for the job. |  | | |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 11:46 - Oct 5 with 2520 views | 442Dale |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 11:39 - Oct 5 by TalkingSutty |
The suggestion is that Evatt is lined up for the job. |
Makes sense with his Blackpool links too.
McNulty will start to get interest though over the next few months as jobs become available. Much like when Hill was here, that’s the fear when managers are producing successful sides.
Hopefully there’s a succession plan, would think the current regime will be all over that especially with consideration to there being no guarantees any of the coaching staff wouldn’t leave too should the situation ever arise.
Let’s hope not. |  |
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| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 12:08 - Oct 5 with 2457 views | frenzied |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 11:46 - Oct 5 by 442Dale |
Makes sense with his Blackpool links too.
McNulty will start to get interest though over the next few months as jobs become available. Much like when Hill was here, that’s the fear when managers are producing successful sides.
Hopefully there’s a succession plan, would think the current regime will be all over that especially with consideration to there being no guarantees any of the coaching staff wouldn’t leave too should the situation ever arise.
Let’s hope not. |
Poss Mark Hughes?
Evatt looks a safe bet..
Jim..no chance
Plz not Rooney | | | |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 12:15 - Oct 5 with 2424 views | TalkingSutty |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 11:46 - Oct 5 by 442Dale |
Makes sense with his Blackpool links too.
McNulty will start to get interest though over the next few months as jobs become available. Much like when Hill was here, that’s the fear when managers are producing successful sides.
Hopefully there’s a succession plan, would think the current regime will be all over that especially with consideration to there being no guarantees any of the coaching staff wouldn’t leave too should the situation ever arise.
Let’s hope not. |
He spoke to Burton last season apparently and as fans suggested at the time on this forum, he will do what's best for him and his family. Same for our players. No point worrying about it, we have a changing room full of very good players under contract and this is football. I'd like to think we would be able to find a manager who could get a tune out of our current crop of players. He might also feel loyalty to the club, the players and the Ogden family and see out the three year plan. [Post edited 5 Oct 12:18]
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| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 12:16 - Oct 5 with 2416 views | D_Alien |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 11:46 - Oct 5 by 442Dale |
Makes sense with his Blackpool links too.
McNulty will start to get interest though over the next few months as jobs become available. Much like when Hill was here, that’s the fear when managers are producing successful sides.
Hopefully there’s a succession plan, would think the current regime will be all over that especially with consideration to there being no guarantees any of the coaching staff wouldn’t leave too should the situation ever arise.
Let’s hope not. |
It is a danger, and it'd be daft not to take it into account within the backrooms of the club
However, JM (and his newly-recruited coaches too) would need to think long and hard about whether a better opportunity will ever present itself to them in their entire footballing careers than the one that lies ahead of them at Dale. Different if you're still playing of course - injury can cut you down at any point
Yes, bigger bucks, bigger crowds may beckon, but also a much bigger microscope and expectation. All three of our management team have been around enough to know how fortunes can change and how the prospects of career advancement can flicker then fade in an instant. Or, they could ask their former mentor, Keith Hill
By staying at Dale, the prospect of taking an unfashionable team back into the football league and then - well who knows, with the stability that's being put in place brick by brick - where we might go from there. If that doesn't match their ambition, i'm not sure what else they'd be in the game for [Post edited 5 Oct 12:18]
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| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 13:16 - Oct 5 with 2258 views | 442Dale |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 12:16 - Oct 5 by D_Alien |
It is a danger, and it'd be daft not to take it into account within the backrooms of the club
However, JM (and his newly-recruited coaches too) would need to think long and hard about whether a better opportunity will ever present itself to them in their entire footballing careers than the one that lies ahead of them at Dale. Different if you're still playing of course - injury can cut you down at any point
Yes, bigger bucks, bigger crowds may beckon, but also a much bigger microscope and expectation. All three of our management team have been around enough to know how fortunes can change and how the prospects of career advancement can flicker then fade in an instant. Or, they could ask their former mentor, Keith Hill
By staying at Dale, the prospect of taking an unfashionable team back into the football league and then - well who knows, with the stability that's being put in place brick by brick - where we might go from there. If that doesn't match their ambition, i'm not sure what else they'd be in the game for [Post edited 5 Oct 12:18]
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Whilst being broadly in agreement with the opportunity to be part of something special here, there’s the argument that managers, like players with an injury, are only a few bad results away from the sack.
That’ll always be a consideration - we’ve all seen the pressure McNulty has been under at various stages, and football fans can end up saying they need a new manager after a poor set of results or some baffling decisions. It was the same with Hill at times too, there will have been fans wanting him gone and he will probably point to the fact that managing other clubs before and after Dale has seen him increase earnings from the game.
The Parkin argument is the one I’d use: stay and finish the job first. Get a promotion on your CV. Parkin never did and there will always be that doubt whether he could have. Hill made sure he did it. | |
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| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 14:32 - Oct 5 with 2095 views | D_Alien |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 13:16 - Oct 5 by 442Dale |
Whilst being broadly in agreement with the opportunity to be part of something special here, there’s the argument that managers, like players with an injury, are only a few bad results away from the sack.
That’ll always be a consideration - we’ve all seen the pressure McNulty has been under at various stages, and football fans can end up saying they need a new manager after a poor set of results or some baffling decisions. It was the same with Hill at times too, there will have been fans wanting him gone and he will probably point to the fact that managing other clubs before and after Dale has seen him increase earnings from the game.
The Parkin argument is the one I’d use: stay and finish the job first. Get a promotion on your CV. Parkin never did and there will always be that doubt whether he could have. Hill made sure he did it. |
That first promotion would absolutely be the first step. Hill didn't move on until he'd also made waves in L1, proving his credentials against the bigger teams we faced (no fear of "clout" back then...) which he then - for a good few months at least - continued to demonstrate at Barnsley, such as their great away win at Leeds
I recall Whitey visiting this forum regularly and updating us on Hiil's initial progress, then how he seemed to stumble once criticism started coming his way following some perverse team selections...
The point being, criticism comes with the job. The matchday support at Dale is now as good as i can remember for a very long time, and there's probably far less direct verbal criticism directed towards our bench than during the periods when Hill started to tinker with things - possibly none at all now. This forum and other social media provides an opportunity for fans to say how they think things might be even better - there can never not be room for improvement, and the minute anyone thinks that is the minute things start to go downhill
Posts which tell us how lucky we are to be watching a team now gaining real momentum, or any football at all, are great but preaching to the converted. Keeping at least one eye open for how to improve is just as vital
When people seek to do that, it's something that should be taken on board rather than continually seeking to offset it, as if anything but a perfectly balanced opinion is intolerable... | |
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| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 14:42 - Oct 5 with 2060 views | TalkingSutty |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 13:16 - Oct 5 by 442Dale |
Whilst being broadly in agreement with the opportunity to be part of something special here, there’s the argument that managers, like players with an injury, are only a few bad results away from the sack.
That’ll always be a consideration - we’ve all seen the pressure McNulty has been under at various stages, and football fans can end up saying they need a new manager after a poor set of results or some baffling decisions. It was the same with Hill at times too, there will have been fans wanting him gone and he will probably point to the fact that managing other clubs before and after Dale has seen him increase earnings from the game.
The Parkin argument is the one I’d use: stay and finish the job first. Get a promotion on your CV. Parkin never did and there will always be that doubt whether he could have. Hill made sure he did it. |
Criticism has been justified, baffling in-game decisions and team selection. An inability to stick one on the nose of those in the play off places, not even competing in some games. Also the knack of finding ways of losing in very important games. Fans had their doubts and it was justified. Fast forward to this season and we have had the Brackley debacle and the resting of EEL and Rodney on Wednesday..we lost both those games. So McNulty isn't suddenly the messiah in my eyes but what i will say is that he has us playing some lovely football this season with much more attacking intent, the football is easier on the eye. He's maturing as a manager which is what you would expect and deserves full credit for our current league position. Having Taylor and Done will have helped him but if we're going to isolate him for criticism when things aren't going right then its only fair he receives the recognition now. He's a better manager now he has some help around him, that's probably the case for nearly every successful manager. A increase in money is great but with that comes more expectation and pressure, Hill experienced that with the fan base at Barnsley and Tranmere, even at Scunthorpe with managerial stats that would frighten a ghost. [Post edited 5 Oct 14:53]
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| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 14:44 - Oct 5 with 2052 views | 442Dale |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 14:32 - Oct 5 by D_Alien |
That first promotion would absolutely be the first step. Hill didn't move on until he'd also made waves in L1, proving his credentials against the bigger teams we faced (no fear of "clout" back then...) which he then - for a good few months at least - continued to demonstrate at Barnsley, such as their great away win at Leeds
I recall Whitey visiting this forum regularly and updating us on Hiil's initial progress, then how he seemed to stumble once criticism started coming his way following some perverse team selections...
The point being, criticism comes with the job. The matchday support at Dale is now as good as i can remember for a very long time, and there's probably far less direct verbal criticism directed towards our bench than during the periods when Hill started to tinker with things - possibly none at all now. This forum and other social media provides an opportunity for fans to say how they think things might be even better - there can never not be room for improvement, and the minute anyone thinks that is the minute things start to go downhill
Posts which tell us how lucky we are to be watching a team now gaining real momentum, or any football at all, are great but preaching to the converted. Keeping at least one eye open for how to improve is just as vital
When people seek to do that, it's something that should be taken on board rather than continually seeking to offset it, as if anything but a perfectly balanced opinion is intolerable... |
That’s it, managers will always receive criticism. It was more a case of any manager knowing that fans could turn at any club, which may impact their decision making process towards future offers. As TS said earlier, they will make the best choices for themselves and their families.
It’s just good that we’re now in a position where McNulty and indeed the whole playing side of the club are improving year on year, and any links to other clubs can only mean they’re doing something right.
For me, he and the team have much further to go, mainly around the flexibility in formation and ability to surprise opponents. But happy to be wrong on that as the current choices, both in personnel and employment of them are getting better than expected results. | |
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| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 14:52 - Oct 5 with 2013 views | 442Dale |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 14:42 - Oct 5 by TalkingSutty |
Criticism has been justified, baffling in-game decisions and team selection. An inability to stick one on the nose of those in the play off places, not even competing in some games. Also the knack of finding ways of losing in very important games. Fans had their doubts and it was justified. Fast forward to this season and we have had the Brackley debacle and the resting of EEL and Rodney on Wednesday..we lost both those games. So McNulty isn't suddenly the messiah in my eyes but what i will say is that he has us playing some lovely football this season with much more attacking intent, the football is easier on the eye. He's maturing as a manager which is what you would expect and deserves full credit for our current league position. Having Taylor and Done will have helped him but if we're going to isolate him for criticism when things aren't going right then its only fair he receives the recognition now. He's a better manager now he has some help around him, that's probably the case for nearly every successful manager. A increase in money is great but with that comes more expectation and pressure, Hill experienced that with the fan base at Barnsley and Tranmere, even at Scunthorpe with managerial stats that would frighten a ghost. [Post edited 5 Oct 14:53]
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Yeah a lot of the criticism has been fair and justified.
You’d hope McNulty, or indeed any manager, would accept that. | |
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| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 14:56 - Oct 5 with 1981 views | TalkingSutty |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 14:52 - Oct 5 by 442Dale |
Yeah a lot of the criticism has been fair and justified.
You’d hope McNulty, or indeed any manager, would accept that. |
I don't think his assistant was the right choice but maybe that was down to finances at the time of his appointment. We're not only competing but beating our rivals this season, that's a massive tick in McNulty's favour and psychologically massive. | | | |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 16:41 - Oct 5 with 1786 views | 49thseason |
We are at the start of a virtuous cycle, the Ogdens have primed the pump and the water is starting to flow, the fanbase is growing albeit slowly, the general management of the club has improved dramatically, the infrastucture is developing with the investment both at the Crown Oil and at Bowlee (if the Council play nicely).
Revenues will increase and the extra money will improve the team. Meanwhile, the Ogdens are also busy developing the club's standing in the town via the Dale Community Trust and Dale Futures. The whole town will begin to feel the benefit and the football club will thrive.
We are witnessing something that will grow over the next few years into an enviable model of sustainability with the potential to play much higher up the pyramid. Our job is to support the planned activities and spread the word throughout the Borough and beyond. There is a long way to go but we are really only months into the project and so far, looking back a couple of years, we have moved a long way forwards. |  | | |
| Blackpool sack Steve Bruce on 16:51 - Oct 6 with 1151 views | jonahwhereru |
Was speaking to a young Rochdale fan after the game and he expressed the view that he would be fine with another club signing, with the inference that we could do better. Took me by surprise and made me think Jim will never win over some of the fans.
Personally I am happy with slightly less green grass than might be out there. | | | |
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