Music lovers/ record collectors 22:40 - Oct 12 with 4905 views | colinallcars | Loads of us on here. Unlike you streamers, I buy lots of vinyl and CDs. Until recently, a 2nd hand CD would be a few of your English pounds on Amazon. Now, sellers are often asking £400 or more. What's happening ? |  | | |  |
Music lovers/ record collectors on 10:04 - Oct 16 with 311 views | robith |
Music lovers/ record collectors on 19:31 - Oct 15 by Boston | I do that when I get to Hillingdon. |
I will have no Hillingdon slander in this group |  | |  |
Music lovers/ record collectors on 10:30 - Oct 16 with 240 views | FDC | I have a reasonable vinyl collection if house music from my DJ days, but like most in my age group bought loads of CDs and the transitioned to streaming. When CD ripping and then MP3 file sharing first came about it felt quite subversive and exciting. But I do agree with @Robith that the business model and incentive structure (single hit > album) is detrimental to music generally. There's another thing that I think streaming has affected which is the development of music culture. When you have to buy a physical format, or indeed invest in time and money to attend a physical space to experience music, it's conducive with the development of a "scene" with it's own fashion and tropes etc. The ease of access to music that streaming platforms provide remove those initial barriers but in doing so remove the conditions for a scene to develop I think. Jeremy Gilbert, Mark Fisher, and others talked about the Long 90s from approx 1990-mid2010s, where basically no musical innovation occured (concurrent with end of history politics, we're all just neo liberals now and for ever). Gilbert talked about showing his students photos of young people from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s, and how easily the could be identified as being from that era, by their clothes and general fashion. Whereas photos of young people from subsequent eras are much harder to place in time,because little has changed. He argues that music basically stopped evolving after jungle / garage music, everything since is just a take on what came before. Developments like rock and roll, punk, rave etc were met with horror by parents at the time ("wtf is this, it's not even music") because they were genuine paradigm shifts, but that hasn't really happened since the 90s. Note this isn't "old man says new music is shit", it's the opposite it's "old man says new music is fine", it's not breaking any rules or changing things beyond recognition, it's just repackaged. All of which I'm sure is in part due to the shift to streaming - music is just another highly consumable commodity requiring no investment of time, energy, money etc. |  | |  |
Music lovers/ record collectors on 10:55 - Oct 16 with 184 views | robith | Don't want to clog up the post by quoting all of FDC's post but, on LFW, I come for the Rangers, I stay for conversations about vinyl that cite Fukuyama |  | |  |
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