| Hostages and Prisoners 09:11 - Oct 13 with 3521 views | trampie |
Reading the likes of Sky and BBC reports this morning, why are the people that Hamas hold called hostages yet the people that Israel hold are called prisoners ? |  |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:29 - Oct 14 with 970 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:17 - Oct 14 by Boundy |
Yep just saw this on another social media outlet,why are the military now restarting public executions on their own people ,maybe Trampie would care to comment? |
They've been executing political opponents and ' enemies ' such as gay men since they came to power, it's business as usual. |  |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 13:08 - Oct 14 with 931 views | Boundy |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:29 - Oct 14 by JACKMANANDBOY |
They've been executing political opponents and ' enemies ' such as gay men since they came to power, it's business as usual. |
And yet it's the people who keep them in power, strange that. |  |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 14:27 - Oct 14 with 871 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Isreal created Hamas with a toxic ultraviolet eye for an eye mentality. Shabba and Shatila was a Palestinian refugees camp in Lebanon with 3000 mostly women and Children. It was under the control of the Isrealis. They sent the war dogs in and they were assassinated under cold blood. This was in 1982. Hamas were formed in 1986.
The chain of violence has persisted since then on both sides.
The first step in any peace plan is the main geopolitical issues of "armed militant fundamentalist settlers" annexing Palestinians land by force. I would wager Trump is too weak to insist on the permanent cessation of this policy. Focus is elsewhere on cessation of killing starvation and accomodation of Gazans.
The Fundamentalist settler issue is the real indicator of a credible peace plan of durability.. |  |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 14:42 - Oct 14 with 851 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 13:08 - Oct 14 by Boundy |
And yet it's the people who keep them in power, strange that. |
It’s easy to get elected when you have militants standing outside the polling booths with massive guns saying “vote Hamas or we’ll shoot you”. |  |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 15:12 - Oct 14 with 820 views | Boundy |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 14:42 - Oct 14 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s easy to get elected when you have militants standing outside the polling booths with massive guns saying “vote Hamas or we’ll shoot you”. |
Not being an expert I can't disagree but it should be power to the people not the people in power, Palestinians have lived under the threat of death for decades and yet no credible forceful opposition has tried to userp Hamas has emerged despite having to live the way they have. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 09:53 - Oct 15 with 717 views | trampie |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:17 - Oct 14 by Boundy |
Yep just saw this on another social media outlet,why are the military now restarting public executions on their own people ,maybe Trampie would care to comment? |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 10:53 - Oct 15 with 679 views | AnotherJohn |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 15:12 - Oct 14 by Boundy |
Not being an expert I can't disagree but it should be power to the people not the people in power, Palestinians have lived under the threat of death for decades and yet no credible forceful opposition has tried to userp Hamas has emerged despite having to live the way they have. |
Actually there was lot of killing as Hamas and Fatah struggled for power in Gaza. The Palestinian Independent Commission for Citizens' Rights claimed that over 600 Palestinians were killed in the fighting from January 2006 to May 2007 after Hamas won an election. I think we have to accept that there is more support for Hamas in the Gaza population than some like to think. You only have to look at the crowd egging on the recent executions or the street celebrations on October 7th. | | | |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 11:01 - Oct 15 with 672 views | Boundy |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 09:53 - Oct 15 by trampie |
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Is that the public back of the head job executions seen recently on social media or something different such as a gun battle,because there is a subtle difference in reporting when it's a.punlic execution as opposed a dying in a gun fight. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 11:08 - Oct 15 with 660 views | Boundy |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 10:53 - Oct 15 by AnotherJohn |
Actually there was lot of killing as Hamas and Fatah struggled for power in Gaza. The Palestinian Independent Commission for Citizens' Rights claimed that over 600 Palestinians were killed in the fighting from January 2006 to May 2007 after Hamas won an election. I think we have to accept that there is more support for Hamas in the Gaza population than some like to think. You only have to look at the crowd egging on the recent executions or the street celebrations on October 7th. |
Thanks for the reminder ,sad though to think that's there's been no benefit to the lives of the Palestinian people under Hamas just more of the same . | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 11:37 - Oct 15 with 628 views | trampie |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 11:01 - Oct 15 by Boundy |
Is that the public back of the head job executions seen recently on social media or something different such as a gun battle,because there is a subtle difference in reporting when it's a.punlic execution as opposed a dying in a gun fight. |
Does it matter ? | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 11:45 - Oct 15 with 615 views | trampie |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 10:53 - Oct 15 by AnotherJohn |
Actually there was lot of killing as Hamas and Fatah struggled for power in Gaza. The Palestinian Independent Commission for Citizens' Rights claimed that over 600 Palestinians were killed in the fighting from January 2006 to May 2007 after Hamas won an election. I think we have to accept that there is more support for Hamas in the Gaza population than some like to think. You only have to look at the crowd egging on the recent executions or the street celebrations on October 7th. |
I told this messageboard that months ago, Israel has had strong support from its people as regards genocide and Hamas has had strong support from its people as regards its actions, Hamas support must been waning due to the Palestinian death toll but it could still command more support than AN Others. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 11:58 - Oct 15 with 593 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Seems like all the armed men wearing Red Cross outfits and those wearing vests with “journalist” written on them have disappeared over night. In other completely unrelated news Hamas fighters are back in uniform and are enjoying slaughtering Palestinian people again. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:35 - Oct 15 with 557 views | trampie |
How many Israeli civilians were deliberately killed by the IDF on Oct 7th ?
Proves how biased our media is that I had not heard stories that the 'Hannibal Directive' had been given out on Oct 7th.
It is said in the past that the IDF will kill their own soldiers rather than allowing them be taken hostage but now the stories are that on Oct 7th that it was civilians as well. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:44 - Oct 15 with 529 views | trampie |
Ana on the hannibal directive. [Post edited 15 Oct 12:48]
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:54 - Oct 15 with 501 views | trampie |
This is real beast mode by Ana, but the powers that be support Israel as well as some ordinary folk that are taken in by the rich and powerful that control the main stream media. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:57 - Oct 15 with 493 views | Boundy |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 11:37 - Oct 15 by trampie |
Does it matter ? |
You suprise me so I'll explain it to you slowly.
Yes it does , someone on equal terms such as dying whilst having a weapon to attack/defend themselves as opposed to being made to kneel ,blindfolded and hands tied behind their backs then shot in the back of the head.
as it seems to you that there's no difference I take it you have no problem of gays being thrown off buildings. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 13:05 - Oct 15 with 465 views | trampie |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 12:57 - Oct 15 by Boundy |
You suprise me so I'll explain it to you slowly.
Yes it does , someone on equal terms such as dying whilst having a weapon to attack/defend themselves as opposed to being made to kneel ,blindfolded and hands tied behind their backs then shot in the back of the head.
as it seems to you that there's no difference I take it you have no problem of gays being thrown off buildings. |
It doesn't matter if a traitor is killed in a gun battle or executed while been held.
A traitor is a traitor is a traitor.
Traitors are extremely dangerous to everybody, they can get combatants and civilians killed by giving the enemy information, if not killed jailed and they can even jeopardise the entire cause of what one side is fighting for, you just can't have traitors, what did the IRA do ?, what did the French resistance do ?, even the British Army and British state killed traitors (deserters as well in our case back in the day). | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 13:18 - Oct 15 with 449 views | trampie |
Seeing some of the things put up about what Ana has been saying, I seen this one which I thought was smack on, I don't know what context it is in, but its what I'm concerned about also, as a British citizen I'm afraid our Government of whatever persuasion are influenced by a foreign power. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 13:59 - Oct 15 with 416 views | raynor94 |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 13:05 - Oct 15 by trampie |
It doesn't matter if a traitor is killed in a gun battle or executed while been held.
A traitor is a traitor is a traitor.
Traitors are extremely dangerous to everybody, they can get combatants and civilians killed by giving the enemy information, if not killed jailed and they can even jeopardise the entire cause of what one side is fighting for, you just can't have traitors, what did the IRA do ?, what did the French resistance do ?, even the British Army and British state killed traitors (deserters as well in our case back in the day). |
Traitor! And on whose say Hamas? They are back full on murdering innocent Gazans who disagree with them |  |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 14:18 - Oct 15 with 385 views | trampie |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 13:59 - Oct 15 by raynor94 |
Traitor! And on whose say Hamas? They are back full on murdering innocent Gazans who disagree with them |
Same applies to your post the otherway around, who says they are murdering 'innocent' Gazans in this instance, traitors are not innocent are they ?, could be responsible for the deaths of their own people. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 15:29 - Oct 15 with 338 views | Boundy |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 13:05 - Oct 15 by trampie |
It doesn't matter if a traitor is killed in a gun battle or executed while been held.
A traitor is a traitor is a traitor.
Traitors are extremely dangerous to everybody, they can get combatants and civilians killed by giving the enemy information, if not killed jailed and they can even jeopardise the entire cause of what one side is fighting for, you just can't have traitors, what did the IRA do ?, what did the French resistance do ?, even the British Army and British state killed traitors (deserters as well in our case back in the day). |
You called them traitors , why exactly .Traitors to the Hamas cause perhaps ?. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 15:34 - Oct 15 with 321 views | trampie |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 15:29 - Oct 15 by Boundy |
You called them traitors , why exactly .Traitors to the Hamas cause perhaps ?. |
The Palestinian cause. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 15:56 - Oct 15 with 289 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 13:05 - Oct 15 by trampie |
It doesn't matter if a traitor is killed in a gun battle or executed while been held.
A traitor is a traitor is a traitor.
Traitors are extremely dangerous to everybody, they can get combatants and civilians killed by giving the enemy information, if not killed jailed and they can even jeopardise the entire cause of what one side is fighting for, you just can't have traitors, what did the IRA do ?, what did the French resistance do ?, even the British Army and British state killed traitors (deserters as well in our case back in the day). |
If we brought executing traitors back here your noggin would be the first on the chopping block. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 16:18 - Oct 15 with 269 views | Boundy |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 15:34 - Oct 15 by trampie |
The Palestinian cause. |
The cause which includes the mass murder in fact the entire destruction of Israel and it's Jews no matter where they are ,a cause which you obviously believe in , how strange. | |
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| Hostages and Prisoners on 16:26 - Oct 15 with 261 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Hostages and Prisoners on 16:18 - Oct 15 by Boundy |
The cause which includes the mass murder in fact the entire destruction of Israel and it's Jews no matter where they are ,a cause which you obviously believe in , how strange. |
There's nothing new here, Hamas have executed people for working for the Palestinian Authority or being members of Fatah etc. in the past.
I find it difficult to agree with Trampie on executions by masked gangs with AK47s in supermarket car parks, I guess he doesn't do the shopping.
https://www.hrw.org/report/2009/04/20/under-cover-war/hamas-political-violence-g | |
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