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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 234793 viewsDr_Parnassus



Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.

The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.

Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.

It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.

People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.

It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.

But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.

Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot.

I will be watching with great interest anyway.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:41 - Nov 6 with 1225 viewsGwyn737

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:37 - Nov 6 by Dr_Parnassus

Which courts? What accusations?


I should have said ‘requests‘. My bad.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:44 - Nov 6 with 1219 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:41 - Nov 6 by Gwyn737

I should have said ‘requests‘. My bad.


Indeed. So they are acting as expected then. Nothing to see here.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:59 - Nov 6 with 1201 viewsItchySphincter

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:30 - Nov 6 by Lohengrin

At this time of night?

C’mon now he’s had his Ovaltine and they’ve just got him down.





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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:02 - Nov 6 with 1190 viewsonehunglow

Why the ageist narrative. Trump is only 4 yrs younger and I am 4 yrs younger still. I aint in any way senile ,just wiser a well as older now and certainly more reflective as I approach Burning Hell. That said, meeting Tramp ,Killy and my former friends in the fiery furnace will be fun. I'll fook have them then.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:14 - Nov 6 with 1177 viewsItchySphincter

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:02 - Nov 6 by onehunglow

Why the ageist narrative. Trump is only 4 yrs younger and I am 4 yrs younger still. I aint in any way senile ,just wiser a well as older now and certainly more reflective as I approach Burning Hell. That said, meeting Tramp ,Killy and my former friends in the fiery furnace will be fun. I'll fook have them then.


Cheer up grandpa, it’s just a joke.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:29 - Nov 6 with 1159 viewsHighjack

The popular vote is only 51%-48%. Doesn’t that mean we should have some sort of people’s vote or something?

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:31 - Nov 6 with 1157 viewsonehunglow

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Cheer up grandpa, it’s just a joke.


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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:09 - Nov 6 with 1131 viewsGwyn737

Do you reckon this Is this real?

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:18 - Nov 6 with 1122 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 03:01 - Nov 6 by Dr_Parnassus

Again it looks like you are posting things you don't understand.

1) The Brennan Center
2) It's 3 years old and not based on Universal mail in voting, which is the point
3) Voter fraud count is based on votes they have FOUND to be fraudulent, not actual fraudulent votes.

Happy to help.
[Post edited 6 Nov 2020 3:02]


Oh dear Herr Goebels ios making a fool of himself again

I'm fully aware of all three of your points.

Much like most of your points in this thread they come from a source that others distrust.

Much like most of your points in this thread they are not made in the last week, month,year. Additionally mail in voting is little different to absentee ballots (heavily utilised by both sides) except that absentee ballots are a strict criteria to get the envelope.

As the resident numbers guy you should be aware that the tiny amount of electoral fraud FOUND is indicative of the levels of actual fraud.

The problem is that you yourself are the fraud.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:21 - Nov 6 with 1122 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 03:08 - Nov 6 by Dr_Parnassus

DJacks Google search function has been battered this month, I can see it smoking from here


Again you show that you know nothing.

In this whole thread with all my posts I suspect that there are no more than two links which I used google for... and they were because I couldn't quite remember where I had the info from but knew I had seen the article.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:23 - Nov 6 with 1121 viewsJack123


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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:25 - Nov 6 with 1118 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:15 - Nov 6 by Dr_Parnassus

It’s just common sense.

We have evidence of fraudulent activity. It’s a tight race, these should be investigated.

That’s all I’m saying and it’s the common sense stance that any fan of democracy should be championing.

...Except some are putting their hate for Trump before democracy, which is what the issue may be on a broader scale. An investigation will reveal whether that is the case or not.
[Post edited 6 Nov 2020 8:19]


Pennsylvania Republican senator: 'No evidence of voter fraud'
U.S. Sen. Pat Toomey

Pennsylvania Republican Senator Pat Toomey is among several critics from the president's own party who are disputing details from his news conference at the White House yesterday.

"I saw the president's speech last night and it was very hard to watch," he told NBC earlier today.

"The president's allegations of large-scale fraud and theft of the election are just not substantiated. I'm not aware of any significant wrongdoing here."

"Look, there are irregularities in every election. They tend to typically be very small and involve just a handful of ballots."

Toomey, who is due to retire in 2022, also said he had no idea how long it would take for votes to be fully counted in Pennsylvania, a state leaning towards Biden at present.

"It's going to take the time that it takes," he said, adding that the remaining votes will likely be for Democrats. "But at this point we just don't know. That's why we go through the process - to find out."
[Post edited 6 Nov 2020 22:40]

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:26 - Nov 6 with 1116 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:21 - Nov 6 by DJack

Again you show that you know nothing.

In this whole thread with all my posts I suspect that there are no more than two links which I used google for... and they were because I couldn't quite remember where I had the info from but knew I had seen the article.


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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:29 - Nov 6 with 1114 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:18 - Nov 6 by DJack

Oh dear Herr Goebels ios making a fool of himself again

I'm fully aware of all three of your points.

Much like most of your points in this thread they come from a source that others distrust.

Much like most of your points in this thread they are not made in the last week, month,year. Additionally mail in voting is little different to absentee ballots (heavily utilised by both sides) except that absentee ballots are a strict criteria to get the envelope.

As the resident numbers guy you should be aware that the tiny amount of electoral fraud FOUND is indicative of the levels of actual fraud.

The problem is that you yourself are the fraud.


The source isn’t the main issue, it’s the source combined with the relevance.

You obviously have not understood yet another link you posted. It has nothing to do with anything being discussed.

As for my links, I tend to stay away from links, I post my opinion which is based on huge amounts of official data study.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:30 - Nov 6 with 1109 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:25 - Nov 6 by DJack

Pennsylvania Republican senator: 'No evidence of voter fraud'
U.S. Sen. Pat Toomey

Pennsylvania Republican Senator Pat Toomey is among several critics from the president's own party who are disputing details from his news conference at the White House yesterday.

"I saw the president's speech last night and it was very hard to watch," he told NBC earlier today.

"The president's allegations of large-scale fraud and theft of the election are just not substantiated. I'm not aware of any significant wrongdoing here."

"Look, there are irregularities in every election. They tend to typically be very small and involve just a handful of ballots."

Toomey, who is due to retire in 2022, also said he had no idea how long it would take for votes to be fully counted in Pennsylvania, a state leaning towards Biden at present.

"It's going to take the time that it takes," he said, adding that the remaining votes will likely be for Democrats. "But at this point we just don't know. That's why we go through the process - to find out."
[Post edited 6 Nov 2020 22:40]


Of course he isn’t aware of any wrong doing. Why would he be?

DJack. Read your own links and copy and pastes before reading please.

Saves time.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:37 - Nov 6 with 1102 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:30 - Nov 6 by Lohengrin

At this time of night?

C’mon now he’s had his Ovaltine and they’ve just got him down.



I think Joe AND the bloke behind him dealing with all the information you gave them on how nice Mr Mosley was...

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:42 - Nov 6 with 1097 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:30 - Nov 6 by Dr_Parnassus

Of course he isn’t aware of any wrong doing. Why would he be?

DJack. Read your own links and copy and pastes before reading please.

Saves time.


Because it is in his interest and he has the direct, personal, phone numbers of those who would know.

Stop talking rubbish.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:52 - Nov 6 with 1083 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:42 - Nov 6 by DJack

Because it is in his interest and he has the direct, personal, phone numbers of those who would know.

Stop talking rubbish.


you didn’t think that through did you?

Prime example of debating via Google. It very rarely makes a point you would like it to make.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:02 - Nov 6 with 1073 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Oops it is starting to unravel.
Michigan has one polling station that allocated 6000 to Biden which should have gone to Trump a swing of 12000, due to a software glitch.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:08 - Nov 6 with 1065 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:02 - Nov 6 by A_Fans_Dad

Oops it is starting to unravel.
Michigan has one polling station that allocated 6000 to Biden which should have gone to Trump a swing of 12000, due to a software glitch.


Unclear whether it was 3000 or 6000 votes supposed to be for Trump, they gave to Biden. So a 6000 or 12000 vote swing. Upon investigation this software was used in 30+ of the states. Someone said he wonders how many of these glitches will go in Trumps favour, I’d be interested to find that out.

On another note. The post office worker has now come forward regarding his bosses back dating illegitimate votes and sending them off express.

[Post edited 7 Nov 2020 6:05]

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:13 - Nov 6 with 1059 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:52 - Nov 6 by Dr_Parnassus

you didn’t think that through did you?

Prime example of debating via Google. It very rarely makes a point you would like it to make.


except that, as I've already told you, I'm not doing that. You are just talking shit to deflect/divert.

Fail.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:28 - Nov 6 with 1044 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:13 - Nov 6 by DJack

except that, as I've already told you, I'm not doing that. You are just talking shit to deflect/divert.

Fail.


Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux
Nov. 6, 12:30 pm

I suspect the “legal challenges” avenue is not going to be a fruitful one, Micah, if the Trump team is actually thinking the outcome can be changed through litigation at this point. I chatted with Galen yesterday about how the Trump campaign’s litigation is going so far – and the answer is not well. The campaign has yet to produce any evidence of voting-related wrongdoing or misconduct, despite all the (false) talk about fraud and a stolen election.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:32 - Nov 6 with 1037 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:13 - Nov 6 by DJack

except that, as I've already told you, I'm not doing that. You are just talking shit to deflect/divert.

Fail.


Aye because this man has all the numbers of the people that would be involved in voter fraud who would tell him of their deeds.

You make about as much sense as a Biden rally

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:35 - Nov 6 with 1036 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:28 - Nov 6 by DJack

Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux
Nov. 6, 12:30 pm

I suspect the “legal challenges” avenue is not going to be a fruitful one, Micah, if the Trump team is actually thinking the outcome can be changed through litigation at this point. I chatted with Galen yesterday about how the Trump campaign’s litigation is going so far – and the answer is not well. The campaign has yet to produce any evidence of voting-related wrongdoing or misconduct, despite all the (false) talk about fraud and a stolen election.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/


Again I have zero idea why you are copy and pasting that.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:39 - Nov 6 with 1031 viewsJack123

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:35 - Nov 6 by Dr_Parnassus

Again I have zero idea why you are copy and pasting that.


You have him on the ropes Dr P, finish him..

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