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Serco 13:34 - Apr 26 with 1320 viewsBoundy

and why not

https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/keir-starmer-appeals-landlords-rent-h

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Serco on 13:39 - Apr 26 with 1117 viewsWhiterockin

Key phrase in the article.

“These arrangements with the private rented sector have been in place for years, including under the previous government."
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Serco on 13:41 - Apr 26 with 1108 viewsGwyn737

Serco on 13:39 - Apr 26 by Whiterockin

Key phrase in the article.

“These arrangements with the private rented sector have been in place for years, including under the previous government."


It’s another example of how the Tories are screwed.

They’ve no attack lines as things still often come back to them.
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Serco on 13:45 - Apr 26 with 1106 viewsBoundy

Serco on 13:39 - Apr 26 by Whiterockin

Key phrase in the article.

“These arrangements with the private rented sector have been in place for years, including under the previous government."


Yep , we the taxpayer and it being our money have been taken for fools , migrants in hotels whilst we have veterans etc out one these the very same streets where these hotels are located .
I do wonder why make it an incentive and attractive for these folk to travel whilst other country's are much more firmer.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Serco on 14:46 - Apr 26 with 1057 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Serco on 13:39 - Apr 26 by Whiterockin

Key phrase in the article.

“These arrangements with the private rented sector have been in place for years, including under the previous government."


Let's continue because it's wrong!

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Serco on 11:17 - Apr 27 with 926 viewsDr_Winston

No Government has effectively dealt with the problem since Tony Blair threw the doors wide open in 1997 in a deliberate effort to create "a successful multi-cultural society". I note that they left this policy out of their manifesto.

Now, in an increasingly difficult market for renters, Governments are actively competing against British tenants for housing space.

The country is basically screwed and nobody in power is prepared to do anything about it.

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Serco on 12:08 - Apr 27 with 900 viewsReslovenSwan1

Serco on 11:17 - Apr 27 by Dr_Winston

No Government has effectively dealt with the problem since Tony Blair threw the doors wide open in 1997 in a deliberate effort to create "a successful multi-cultural society". I note that they left this policy out of their manifesto.

Now, in an increasingly difficult market for renters, Governments are actively competing against British tenants for housing space.

The country is basically screwed and nobody in power is prepared to do anything about it.


For some reason UK are not minded to put temporary illegal immigrants being assessed for asylum into old RAF camps and floating accommodation considered good enough for British workers. They are a focus for NIMBY people and the charity organisations and lawyers.

The UK government has followed the Senedd lead and realised it is politically better to disperse those claiming asylum throughout the country so the public bleeding heart do not need to look at themselves in the mirror.

A few million to tidy Iup and RAF camp warmth heat food for a few thousand would be more cost effective. It seems reasonable to me. It is not Holiday Inn but good enough.

Labour made a big thing about the floating accommodation which was good value once they sorted out the air conditioning..

The people living in a wet trench in north east France know UK will offer them food warmth water. In my book the taxpayer should be looking for value. We offer only the basics. If the migrants social life is suffering that is not an issue for the taxpayer. I have mixed with workers in work camps living in poratcabina for years. Food heat warmth for enough.

To offer board lodge and a good social life in a city centre is bad value.
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Serco on 01:41 - Apr 28 with 766 viewsRobbie

Serco on 12:08 - Apr 27 by ReslovenSwan1

For some reason UK are not minded to put temporary illegal immigrants being assessed for asylum into old RAF camps and floating accommodation considered good enough for British workers. They are a focus for NIMBY people and the charity organisations and lawyers.

The UK government has followed the Senedd lead and realised it is politically better to disperse those claiming asylum throughout the country so the public bleeding heart do not need to look at themselves in the mirror.

A few million to tidy Iup and RAF camp warmth heat food for a few thousand would be more cost effective. It seems reasonable to me. It is not Holiday Inn but good enough.

Labour made a big thing about the floating accommodation which was good value once they sorted out the air conditioning..

The people living in a wet trench in north east France know UK will offer them food warmth water. In my book the taxpayer should be looking for value. We offer only the basics. If the migrants social life is suffering that is not an issue for the taxpayer. I have mixed with workers in work camps living in poratcabina for years. Food heat warmth for enough.

To offer board lodge and a good social life in a city centre is bad value.
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Serco on 08:13 - Apr 28 with 724 viewsKilkennyjack

Serco on 11:17 - Apr 27 by Dr_Winston

No Government has effectively dealt with the problem since Tony Blair threw the doors wide open in 1997 in a deliberate effort to create "a successful multi-cultural society". I note that they left this policy out of their manifesto.

Now, in an increasingly difficult market for renters, Governments are actively competing against British tenants for housing space.

The country is basically screwed and nobody in power is prepared to do anything about it.


Its a pan-European problem, just for context.

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Serco on 11:01 - Apr 28 with 664 viewsBoundy

Serco on 08:13 - Apr 28 by Kilkennyjack

Its a pan-European problem, just for context.


Just for context what happens across the water admittedly has a bearing on what happens in GB but thankfully my tax money should only be contributing to GB citizens not so provide money to some scruffbag from a 3 world shite hole ,atm it isn't but hopefully one day one political party will listen to the voters and block the access routes .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Serco on 07:59 - Apr 29 with 554 viewsScotia

Serco on 11:01 - Apr 28 by Boundy

Just for context what happens across the water admittedly has a bearing on what happens in GB but thankfully my tax money should only be contributing to GB citizens not so provide money to some scruffbag from a 3 world shite hole ,atm it isn't but hopefully one day one political party will listen to the voters and block the access routes .


Pretty much every political party except the far left are trying to do exactly that.

It's impossible without international cooperation.
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Serco on 08:36 - Apr 29 with 520 viewsBoundy

Serco on 07:59 - Apr 29 by Scotia

Pretty much every political party except the far left are trying to do exactly that.

It's impossible without international cooperation.


There's trying and there's really trying, i'm sure opening up more hotels etc to encourage the influx of more falls into the former category.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Serco on 09:00 - Apr 29 with 509 viewsScotia

Serco on 08:36 - Apr 29 by Boundy

There's trying and there's really trying, i'm sure opening up more hotels etc to encourage the influx of more falls into the former category.


That's not closing a route though, and they aren't coming here to stay in a hotel.
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Serco on 09:29 - Apr 29 with 496 viewsBoundy

Serco on 09:00 - Apr 29 by Scotia

That's not closing a route though, and they aren't coming here to stay in a hotel.


Free accomodation is free accomodation .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Serco on 14:11 - Apr 29 with 461 viewsScotia

Serco on 09:29 - Apr 29 by Boundy

Free accomodation is free accomodation .


They'd get that if they claimed asylum elsewhere in Europe.
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Serco on 21:43 - Apr 29 with 398 viewsBoundy

Serco on 14:11 - Apr 29 by Scotia

They'd get that if they claimed asylum elsewhere in Europe.


Then why not go there , instead of exasperating an already dire problem of expensive rented accomodation .How's the 20 million pounds housing programme going ?

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Serco on 17:50 - Apr 30 with 340 viewscontroversial_jack

Serco on 21:43 - Apr 29 by Boundy

Then why not go there , instead of exasperating an already dire problem of expensive rented accomodation .How's the 20 million pounds housing programme going ?


They do.. Many countries take in far more than we do
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Serco on 17:53 - Apr 30 with 340 viewsBoundy

Serco on 17:50 - Apr 30 by controversial_jack

They do.. Many countries take in far more than we do


And ?

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Serco on 18:17 - Apr 30 with 322 viewsScotia

Serco on 21:43 - Apr 29 by Boundy

Then why not go there , instead of exasperating an already dire problem of expensive rented accomodation .How's the 20 million pounds housing programme going ?


Because they can't work in the black market. There are far fewer car washes / nail bars / Turkish barbers etc elsewhere in Europe.

I can't remember the last time I saw a Uber eats or similar rider when I've been in Europe, I don't think I ever have.

The dire accommodation problem is down to successive governments not asylum seekers.
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Serco on 18:24 - Apr 30 with 318 viewsraynor94

Serco on 18:17 - Apr 30 by Scotia

Because they can't work in the black market. There are far fewer car washes / nail bars / Turkish barbers etc elsewhere in Europe.

I can't remember the last time I saw a Uber eats or similar rider when I've been in Europe, I don't think I ever have.

The dire accommodation problem is down to successive governments not asylum seekers.


Just eat and uber eats operate across many Cities in Spain France and Germany just to name 3 Countries

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Serco on 19:41 - Apr 30 with 297 viewsScotia

Serco on 18:24 - Apr 30 by raynor94

Just eat and uber eats operate across many Cities in Spain France and Germany just to name 3 Countries


I'm sure they do, but I'm pretty certain not in the numbers we see here. There aren't the number of take aways to warrant it.

There are 5 McDonald's alone within 3 miles of my house. There's one on the entire island of Ibiza.

There are 17 take aways on or just off Woodfield street in Morriston. Before you consider the shops they deliver for.

That's just one business sector.
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Serco on 19:57 - Apr 30 with 291 viewsReslovenSwan1

Giving asylum seekers summer 6 month temporary work picking fruit and veg for minimum wages while being assessed seems like a good idea to me. Demonstration of good work ethic (time keeping etc) would count in assessment.

Arrivals would reduce expect. But many might be keen to graft. I would make it compulsory but it could be optional.

I cannot see anything morally wrong with this but forced labour is not popular in liberal democracies but neither is illegal immigration and paying billions g for homes and hotels.

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Serco on 20:44 - Apr 30 with 265 viewsScotia

Serco on 19:57 - Apr 30 by ReslovenSwan1

Giving asylum seekers summer 6 month temporary work picking fruit and veg for minimum wages while being assessed seems like a good idea to me. Demonstration of good work ethic (time keeping etc) would count in assessment.

Arrivals would reduce expect. But many might be keen to graft. I would make it compulsory but it could be optional.

I cannot see anything morally wrong with this but forced labour is not popular in liberal democracies but neither is illegal immigration and paying billions g for homes and hotels.


We don't allow asylum seekers to work because it is thought it would increase applications.
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Serco on 23:43 - Apr 30 with 225 viewsBoundy

Serco on 20:44 - Apr 30 by Scotia

We don't allow asylum seekers to work because it is thought it would increase applications.


They don't need to work when housing heating money is all provided for , pity we're not like the Poles or now the Irish who have / are beginning to see the light and rebelling against this unmitigated disaster unfolding before us .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Serco on 07:01 - May 1 with 196 viewsScotia

Serco on 23:43 - Apr 30 by Boundy

They don't need to work when housing heating money is all provided for , pity we're not like the Poles or now the Irish who have / are beginning to see the light and rebelling against this unmitigated disaster unfolding before us .


Again they can get those "benefits ' elsewhere in Europe. I couldn't live on free housing and pin money alone. Nobody could.

Asylum seekers are not causing an unmitigated disaster - they account for somewhere between 7 and 10 percent of immigrants, just 0.5% of the population.

Immigration is overwhelming services but we need those immigrants. If we need them, and we do, we should provide infrastructure for them and everyone else.

We don't because of underinvestment. That's down to the Tories.
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Serco on 07:59 - May 1 with 181 viewsBoundy

Serco on 07:01 - May 1 by Scotia

Again they can get those "benefits ' elsewhere in Europe. I couldn't live on free housing and pin money alone. Nobody could.

Asylum seekers are not causing an unmitigated disaster - they account for somewhere between 7 and 10 percent of immigrants, just 0.5% of the population.

Immigration is overwhelming services but we need those immigrants. If we need them, and we do, we should provide infrastructure for them and everyone else.

We don't because of underinvestment. That's down to the Tories.


When will someone acknowledge the glaringly obvious differential between documented application for asylum and the undocumented chancers .they're the ones we don't need or do you believe that someone breaking our laws should be given the same considerations.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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