| STADIUM EXPANSION 18:03 - May 4 with 11484 views | johnlangy |
Yes, again.
Over the last few games we've all been saying the Club should try to attract people with Kids for a quid or whatever, saying those children will become proper supporters, a new generation and all that but you've got to get them through the door first. Those games were against Derby, Plymouth, Hull and Oxford. No offence to those clubs but the time that idea would have had a huge effect in attracting youngsters would have been in the PL. The problem was that there were no seats to accommodate them.
We've just had an excellent run-in with the result that the last two gates were just under 19k and 20k. What would the demand have been if those games were for a place in the play offs ? What would the demand have been if it was the actual play off semi ? Remember 2011 ?
The usual argument against is money. We should spend the money on the team. Another argument is from people who ask if the demand is there. There definitely is a demand imo as these last couple of games have shown again.
I don't suggest spending now because the 'spend on the team' argument is correct at the moment. But if we do manage to get to the PL again I believe the diggers should be in asap after the final game.
My reasoning is this. The first time we spent on the academy and the 1st team training facility. The two combined came to about £25 million from memory (roughly ?). But over the seven years TV money came to over £800 million ! And the vast bulk of that went into the players pockets. And with the last throw of the dice HJ spent probably £60 million or more on Ayew and Bony with their transfer costs and contracts. How does that spend compare with the investment in permanent Club infrastructure ? Do we want it all go to the players ?
If we do get there the only Club infra that we CAN spend on would be expanding the stadium and I believe that's exactly what we should do.
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| STADIUM EXPANSION on 23:03 - May 6 with 1827 views | Whiterockin |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 22:54 - May 6 by builthjack |
I call them followers. They don’t like it. |
If you spend money supporting the club in my mind you are a supporter. If you just watch and spend nothing you are a follower. |  | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 23:09 - May 6 with 1818 views | builthjack |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 23:03 - May 6 by Whiterockin |
If you spend money supporting the club in my mind you are a supporter. If you just watch and spend nothing you are a follower. |
It’s the ones who wear a shirt and say we this, we that, yet never attend a game.
They watch a game on the telly now and then. Pathetic sad people. |  |
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| STADIUM EXPANSION on 23:54 - May 6 with 1758 views | ItchySphincter |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 22:54 - May 6 by owainglyndwr |
It should of stayed as planned at 26500 |
Agree 100%. I may be wrong again here but I believe that the stadium is actually capable of accommodating an extra 2000 as it is, but the official capacity was reduced by that amount due to the regulations of the time. |  |
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| STADIUM EXPANSION on 11:26 - May 7 with 1620 views | nicky |
I’ve often wondered whether the large tunnel areas could be filled in (3 of them anyway) even with some form of temporary seating that could be wheeled in or out. They do seem like a a bit of a waste of seating space. |  | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 11:35 - May 7 with 1605 views | johnlangy |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 23:09 - May 6 by builthjack |
It’s the ones who wear a shirt and say we this, we that, yet never attend a game.
They watch a game on the telly now and then. Pathetic sad people. |
That's a bit harsh builthy. | | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 13:58 - May 7 with 1536 views | DoubeDoube |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 23:09 - May 6 by builthjack |
It’s the ones who wear a shirt and say we this, we that, yet never attend a game.
They watch a game on the telly now and then. Pathetic sad people. |
A bit harsh pal  |  | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 14:07 - May 7 with 1506 views | Whiterockin |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 23:09 - May 6 by builthjack |
It’s the ones who wear a shirt and say we this, we that, yet never attend a game.
They watch a game on the telly now and then. Pathetic sad people. |
I hope you are not talking about anyone in particular from the Neath valley. | | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 14:43 - May 7 with 1455 views | 1983 |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 11:26 - May 7 by nicky |
I’ve often wondered whether the large tunnel areas could be filled in (3 of them anyway) even with some form of temporary seating that could be wheeled in or out. They do seem like a a bit of a waste of seating space. |
Is that not for emergency access? |  |
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| STADIUM EXPANSION on 17:16 - May 7 with 1379 views | Dr_Winston |
Do we need four of them? |  |
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| STADIUM EXPANSION on 18:30 - May 7 with 1321 views | SullutaCreturned |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 17:16 - May 7 by Dr_Winston |
Do we need four of them? |
Maybe just the one in the North West corner? | | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 18:48 - May 7 with 1311 views | Dr_Winston |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 18:30 - May 7 by SullutaCreturned |
Maybe just the one in the North West corner? |
Unless it's something to do with airflow for the pitch. | |
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| STADIUM EXPANSION on 18:52 - May 7 with 1295 views | Whiterockin |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 18:48 - May 7 by Dr_Winston |
Unless it's something to do with airflow for the pitch. |
I can vaguely remember something along those lines. | | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 20:45 - May 7 with 1224 views | sons_of_omri |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 22:50 - May 6 by GVJack |
Our average attendance this season has been 15,309, so we're not currently filling our existing capacity. Ok, some of those empty seats will be away allocation and segregation but still only 75% occupied. Yes a lot of it has been down to the feeling around the club and the performances under Williams which have significantly improved as has the attendances, but let's not be too hasty. If (and it's a big if) we get back into the premiership we should only look to expand if the board feels we've got a genuine strong enough squad to sustain premier league status for a number of years. We go straight back down, so will our attendances, however the longer and more established we become the more interest and new fans we will attract which would make expanding for the long term more of a rationale decision. |
If we come within a sniff of the PL next season the same accusations will be thrown around - club has no ambition blah blah blah. However if we expend to 30 k we’d fill the ground for almost every game of the season - season ticket sales would go through the roof and if we get relegated we can then put on kids for a quid/fiver whatever and pay on the day. There is no downside to expanding the ground . Maybe cheap ST’s too
We had rubbish crowds this year because we played the most boring frustrating football I’ve seen us play. One hint of positivity with Sheehans excellent work brining exciting football and everyone wants to be a part of it again. | | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 20:57 - May 7 with 1211 views | SullutaCreturned |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 22:50 - May 6 by GVJack |
Our average attendance this season has been 15,309, so we're not currently filling our existing capacity. Ok, some of those empty seats will be away allocation and segregation but still only 75% occupied. Yes a lot of it has been down to the feeling around the club and the performances under Williams which have significantly improved as has the attendances, but let's not be too hasty. If (and it's a big if) we get back into the premiership we should only look to expand if the board feels we've got a genuine strong enough squad to sustain premier league status for a number of years. We go straight back down, so will our attendances, however the longer and more established we become the more interest and new fans we will attract which would make expanding for the long term more of a rationale decision. |
O totally disagree. If we expand by just 3-5k we would fill that in the Premier and lets face it, almost ve certain of relegation, The aim then would be to rebound straight back up, price season tickets appropriately and maybe that first season down crowds would stay decent. The extension doesn't have to be used if there is no demand but if we did go straight back up we'd be full again.
I don't understand people saying we should wait, there is never a perfect time to do it. Be pragmatic, expand by a few k then see how it goes. If we keep waiting then we keep losing potential life long fans to the bog clubs, expand the stadium, lower proces get them in and keep them in. Hopefully. | | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 08:36 - May 8 with 1076 views | sons_of_omri |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 20:57 - May 7 by SullutaCreturned |
O totally disagree. If we expand by just 3-5k we would fill that in the Premier and lets face it, almost ve certain of relegation, The aim then would be to rebound straight back up, price season tickets appropriately and maybe that first season down crowds would stay decent. The extension doesn't have to be used if there is no demand but if we did go straight back up we'd be full again.
I don't understand people saying we should wait, there is never a perfect time to do it. Be pragmatic, expand by a few k then see how it goes. If we keep waiting then we keep losing potential life long fans to the bog clubs, expand the stadium, lower proces get them in and keep them in. Hopefully. |
It was proven at the time we needed at least 3-5 k extra because we were selling out every week. If we manage to secure big investment that should be our aim - grow the club by expanding the ground. If we managed to get promoted there would be even more interest from the East of Wales and Valleys especially since Cardiff’s relegation toleague one. Strike while the iron’s hot ! | | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 09:10 - May 8 with 1059 views | bennytheblue |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 19:21 - May 4 by Whiterockin |
Exactly. Look at our neighbours up the road most of the time half the stadium is closed off. |
Just the red seats you mean? It’s like it’s not there, but at least it is if we even need it, which we did in the sunshine league pt2. Anyway, this is an amusing thread, yiu fancy adding to the 7000 empty seats youve already got do you most games? I know your average for the season was 15 like ours was 22 but we all know neither did get that most games.
Anyway, I’ve found my division 3 invasion t shirt from 1988, looks great, little tight but shows my physique real nice with my speedos in the garden. |  | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 09:15 - May 8 with 1056 views | Boundy |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 09:10 - May 8 by bennytheblue |
Just the red seats you mean? It’s like it’s not there, but at least it is if we even need it, which we did in the sunshine league pt2. Anyway, this is an amusing thread, yiu fancy adding to the 7000 empty seats youve already got do you most games? I know your average for the season was 15 like ours was 22 but we all know neither did get that most games.
Anyway, I’ve found my division 3 invasion t shirt from 1988, looks great, little tight but shows my physique real nice with my speedos in the garden. |
and to complete your ensemble will be standing there slapping your head , what a picture . | |
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| STADIUM EXPANSION on 22:41 - May 8 with 941 views | owainglyndwr |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 09:10 - May 8 by bennytheblue |
Just the red seats you mean? It’s like it’s not there, but at least it is if we even need it, which we did in the sunshine league pt2. Anyway, this is an amusing thread, yiu fancy adding to the 7000 empty seats youve already got do you most games? I know your average for the season was 15 like ours was 22 but we all know neither did get that most games.
Anyway, I’ve found my division 3 invasion t shirt from 1988, looks great, little tight but shows my physique real nice with my speedos in the garden. |
Was your average 22k ??
I worked at your ground on many occasions and we would say it would be lucky to be 13000 in here , the must count the Rats and rat holes between the stadium and Costco, it's all built on a land fill dump |  | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 22:50 - May 8 with 920 views | Kilkennyjack |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 20:57 - May 7 by SullutaCreturned |
O totally disagree. If we expand by just 3-5k we would fill that in the Premier and lets face it, almost ve certain of relegation, The aim then would be to rebound straight back up, price season tickets appropriately and maybe that first season down crowds would stay decent. The extension doesn't have to be used if there is no demand but if we did go straight back up we'd be full again.
I don't understand people saying we should wait, there is never a perfect time to do it. Be pragmatic, expand by a few k then see how it goes. If we keep waiting then we keep losing potential life long fans to the bog clubs, expand the stadium, lower proces get them in and keep them in. Hopefully. |
I want all funds on the first team, not stadium rebuilds.
Lets get back to where we belong. |  |
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| STADIUM EXPANSION on 09:43 - May 9 with 776 views | johnlangy |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 22:50 - May 8 by Kilkennyjack |
I want all funds on the first team, not stadium rebuilds.
Lets get back to where we belong. |
Actually that's just what I said kilk.
'I don't suggest spending now because the 'spend on the team' argument is correct at the moment. But if we do manage to get to the PL again I believe the diggers should be in asap after the final game.'
I also said that if/when we get there I don't want all the PL TV money ending up the players pockets again.
If we do get there would you prefer the whole of the £120 million or so to go on players (transfer fees and salaries) or would you want some to be used to build and strengthen the infrastructure of the club for the future ? | | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 09:48 - May 9 with 768 views | johnlangy |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 22:41 - May 8 by owainglyndwr |
Was your average 22k ??
I worked at your ground on many occasions and we would say it would be lucky to be 13000 in here , the must count the Rats and rat holes between the stadium and Costco, it's all built on a land fill dump |
I had a look on some website and they said 19k.
Of course that would include their biggest crowd of the year against their bigger and better rivals just down the road which the size of their stadium could accommodate. And by that I don't mean Bristol City.
They also probably had big crowds for Bristol City, Leeds, West Brom etc which we could not accommodate hence the argument for expanding the Liberty when funds allow. | | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 15:34 - May 9 with 674 views | SullutaCreturned |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 09:10 - May 8 by bennytheblue |
Just the red seats you mean? It’s like it’s not there, but at least it is if we even need it, which we did in the sunshine league pt2. Anyway, this is an amusing thread, yiu fancy adding to the 7000 empty seats youve already got do you most games? I know your average for the season was 15 like ours was 22 but we all know neither did get that most games.
Anyway, I’ve found my division 3 invasion t shirt from 1988, looks great, little tight but shows my physique real nice with my speedos in the garden. |
it was down to 13k because of Luke Williams, a couple of months of Sheehan and we were getting 17-18k again.
There when we need it is a valid point though,, once it's built it's done and ready when needed. Otherwise, when you can draw the extra crowds they all end up going elsewhere. | | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 15:37 - May 9 with 668 views | SullutaCreturned |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 22:50 - May 8 by Kilkennyjack |
I want all funds on the first team, not stadium rebuilds.
Lets get back to where we belong. |
Short sighted and also misunderstanding the thread, John's point was, if we go ip and stay up get the diggers in straight away and I was agreeing with him.
We waited last time and look what happened. | | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 16:25 - May 9 with 638 views | johnlangy |
There are so many situations in life generally where people say i'd better not do it because it might go pear shaped. I bet all of us can think of things we wish we'd done but didn't in case it didn't work out. And regretted it later.
It's not really any different here. And the money will be there. | | | |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 17:31 - May 9 with 612 views | Whiterockin |
| STADIUM EXPANSION on 16:25 - May 9 by johnlangy |
There are so many situations in life generally where people say i'd better not do it because it might go pear shaped. I bet all of us can think of things we wish we'd done but didn't in case it didn't work out. And regretted it later.
It's not really any different here. And the money will be there. |
And there are many things we have all spent money on and with hindsight wished we hadn't. It's a tough call and we as individuals don't have to pay if the wrong decision is made. | | | |
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