| 20 mph on 18:52 - May 29 with 402 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| 20 mph on 18:45 - May 29 by SullutaCreturned |
Isn't "changing the way data is collected" just a cover all bases term for we are going to lie to you and when you ask awkward questions we'll just keep parroting that.
Then they relaease wide ranging data sets and claim they mean one thing when they could easily mean many things. They brush broad strokes and set out out a limited outcome that entirely suits their agenda.
So they mix 20 amd 30mph data together and claim it proves 20mph saved lives. |
To quote Drakeford " let's hope they don't notice".
If the data collection method changes, then any comparisons with other data should be treated with caution, a simple rule in statistics. |  |
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| 20 mph on 19:00 - May 29 with 378 views | SullutaCreturned |
| 20 mph on 18:51 - May 29 by Whiterockin |
The more intelligent can clearly see this meanwhile others just try to prove a point that isn't quantifiable. |
Thing is, I'm not that intelligent so if I can see it then what does that say about others?
Are they that dumb or os it just tunnel vision, whatever the Senedd does just parrot "but Westminster"? Or is it just blind loyalty to the Welsh Labour party? |  | | |
| 20 mph on 19:03 - May 29 with 368 views | Whiterockin |
| 20 mph on 19:00 - May 29 by SullutaCreturned |
Thing is, I'm not that intelligent so if I can see it then what does that say about others?
Are they that dumb or os it just tunnel vision, whatever the Senedd does just parrot "but Westminster"? Or is it just blind loyalty to the Welsh Labour party? |
Don't put yourself down Cat, you talk more sense than most on here. |  | | |
| 20 mph on 19:19 - May 29 with 343 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| 20 mph on 19:00 - May 29 by SullutaCreturned |
Thing is, I'm not that intelligent so if I can see it then what does that say about others?
Are they that dumb or os it just tunnel vision, whatever the Senedd does just parrot "but Westminster"? Or is it just blind loyalty to the Welsh Labour party? |
I have an old work colleague who now works as a barrister. He is as sharp and bright as can be. He says smart people don't consider themselves smart but they do notice when other people are stupid. | |
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| 20 mph on 19:28 - May 29 with 323 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 20 mph on 18:45 - May 29 by SullutaCreturned |
Isn't "changing the way data is collected" just a cover all bases term for we are going to lie to you and when you ask awkward questions we'll just keep parroting that.
Then they relaease wide ranging data sets and claim they mean one thing when they could easily mean many things. They brush broad strokes and set out out a limited outcome that entirely suits their agenda.
So they mix 20 amd 30mph data together and claim it proves 20mph saved lives. |
It saved 100 people.
This is a fact.
You are just guessing bollox. |  |
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| 20 mph on 19:30 - May 29 with 317 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 20 mph on 19:03 - May 29 by Whiterockin |
Don't put yourself down Cat, you talk more sense than most on here. |
In all fairness Cat is a very modest man ….. | |
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| 20 mph on 19:38 - May 29 with 298 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 20 mph on 18:44 - May 29 by Dr_Winston |
If there was conclusive proof that the 20mph limits were having an effect on safety the WG would be trumpeting it long and loud. The fact that they're trying to fudge the figures by including 30mph zones would suggest that there is no such thing. |
The figures are out there.
Maybe this video will aid your understanding….?
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| 20 mph on 19:40 - May 29 with 292 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| 20 mph on 19:38 - May 29 by Kilkennyjack |
The figures are out there.
Maybe this video will aid your understanding….?
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Good Grief.....Will Hayward! | |
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| 20 mph on 19:57 - May 29 with 269 views | Dr_Winston |
| 20 mph on 19:40 - May 29 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Good Grief.....Will Hayward! |
Innit.
Kilks letting someone like Hayward do his thinking for him explains a lot. |  |
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| 20 mph on 00:48 - May 30 with 188 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 20 mph on 19:57 - May 29 by Dr_Winston |
Innit.
Kilks letting someone like Hayward do his thinking for him explains a lot. |
Well he is a professional, whereas we are just moshers on a website.
There are levels to this game. | |
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| 20 mph on 09:58 - May 30 with 130 views | Boundy |
| 20 mph on 15:29 - May 29 by onehunglow |
One of the biggest causes of death on roads is drug driving
Thousands daily go to work having smoked dope the evening before thinking they are ok
They're not
We should confiscate and sell off vehicles of drink and drug drivers and those using their phones too
All three killers but we don't have the guts politically and that includes Plaid although I think they want us to go back to horse drawn carriages |
Speeders speed that's a fact regardless of the limit and "fatalities linked to drug driving on UK roads have increased by 164 per cent in less than a decade, from 47 in 2014 to 124 in 2023" but its still drinking which is the higher cause of accidents . It would seem that CCTV cameras have taken on the role of replacing and not supplementing policing on our roads and because of that the chances of being stopped by the police is minimal .We now have a Mayor in London now calling for smoking cannabis to be decriminalised which hopefully is dismissed out of hand , as most of us have experienced the smell of it which pervades everywhere, certainly where I live and the thought that many drivers are driving high appals me .
I agree caught driving whilst high then the vehicle should be seized maybe then that will focus the minds of those who think driving is a right not a privilege. | |
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| 20 mph on 10:03 - May 30 with 129 views | controversial_jack |
| 20 mph on 09:58 - May 30 by Boundy |
Speeders speed that's a fact regardless of the limit and "fatalities linked to drug driving on UK roads have increased by 164 per cent in less than a decade, from 47 in 2014 to 124 in 2023" but its still drinking which is the higher cause of accidents . It would seem that CCTV cameras have taken on the role of replacing and not supplementing policing on our roads and because of that the chances of being stopped by the police is minimal .We now have a Mayor in London now calling for smoking cannabis to be decriminalised which hopefully is dismissed out of hand , as most of us have experienced the smell of it which pervades everywhere, certainly where I live and the thought that many drivers are driving high appals me .
I agree caught driving whilst high then the vehicle should be seized maybe then that will focus the minds of those who think driving is a right not a privilege. |
De criminalizing it doesn't mean de discriminating driving under the influence, that's not what happens when it's been done. Neither is drug dealing. It's just for personal use. When you think of it, who has the right to tell anyone what they can eat drink or smoke - I don't smoke myself, so don't really care, but weed does stink horribly | | | |
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