| Clarkson's Farm 19:19 - Jun 7 with 1580 views | max936 |
Mrs and Me finished watching series 4 safternoon sorry it to see the series end, we've enjoyed all 4 series so far this last one series 4 was the best for me.
Anyone else a fan of the series? [Post edited 7 Jun 19:20]
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| Clarkson's Farm on 19:47 - Jun 7 with 826 views | Boundy |
Love the programme and thankful that someone like Clarkson is showing the public just what goes into farming ,I've not watched series 4 yet so no spoiler alerts please. |  |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 20:05 - Jun 7 with 803 views | max936 |
| Clarkson's Farm on 19:47 - Jun 7 by Boundy |
Love the programme and thankful that someone like Clarkson is showing the public just what goes into farming ,I've not watched series 4 yet so no spoiler alerts please. |
Its excellent Boundy get on it ASAP, Mrs and I binge watched the first 4 episodes on series 4 and episodes 6 and 7 and then 7 and 8 today. | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 20:19 - Jun 7 with 788 views | trampie |
I didn't know why but when I seen this thread 'I thought capitalist pigs', might be because I seen a Rose Dugdale thing the other day and that was a line used in the show, big country house and all that. |  |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 20:21 - Jun 7 with 788 views | Scotia |
| Clarkson's Farm on 19:47 - Jun 7 by Boundy |
Love the programme and thankful that someone like Clarkson is showing the public just what goes into farming ,I've not watched series 4 yet so no spoiler alerts please. |
He did a particularly good job of showing why farmers should no longer be exempt from inheritance tax too. | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 20:37 - Jun 7 with 766 views | max936 |
| Clarkson's Farm on 20:21 - Jun 7 by Scotia |
He did a particularly good job of showing why farmers should no longer be exempt from inheritance tax too. |
Yet more absolute bollox from you, he's got other income streams he hasn't got to rely on money earnt from farming unlike the farmers who have farmed for years and years after being born on their farms, hes highlighted on how difficult it is to run a profitable farm with crops getting ruined by weather and various other issues.
Clarkson is worth between 80 to a 100 million in his own right. | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 20:45 - Jun 7 with 740 views | Dr_Winston |
| Clarkson's Farm on 20:37 - Jun 7 by max936 |
Yet more absolute bollox from you, he's got other income streams he hasn't got to rely on money earnt from farming unlike the farmers who have farmed for years and years after being born on their farms, hes highlighted on how difficult it is to run a profitable farm with crops getting ruined by weather and various other issues.
Clarkson is worth between 80 to a 100 million in his own right. |
Spot on.
Labour's tax on farming is largely identical in the ineptitude of its execution as their attack on the Winter Fuel Allowance. Instead of taking the time to seriously look at those who are entitled/taking the mickey, the one size fits all approach has done serious damage.
There are people who buy farmland to avoid tax. By all means look at closing that loophole. However, Labour are seemingly intent on destroying family farms that have operated for generations because they're too f*cking stupid to do anything else. |  |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 21:48 - Jun 7 with 701 views | Scotia |
| Clarkson's Farm on 20:37 - Jun 7 by max936 |
Yet more absolute bollox from you, he's got other income streams he hasn't got to rely on money earnt from farming unlike the farmers who have farmed for years and years after being born on their farms, hes highlighted on how difficult it is to run a profitable farm with crops getting ruined by weather and various other issues.
Clarkson is worth between 80 to a 100 million in his own right. |
But the reason he bought the farm was to avoid inheritance tax, he's openly admitted it. That's the loophole labour has closed. He may have even avoided even more by turning it into an entertainment business.
Are you happy with a multi millionaire avoiding paying the tax you may have to? That's what he's done. | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 21:50 - Jun 7 with 699 views | Scotia |
| Clarkson's Farm on 20:45 - Jun 7 by Dr_Winston |
Spot on.
Labour's tax on farming is largely identical in the ineptitude of its execution as their attack on the Winter Fuel Allowance. Instead of taking the time to seriously look at those who are entitled/taking the mickey, the one size fits all approach has done serious damage.
There are people who buy farmland to avoid tax. By all means look at closing that loophole. However, Labour are seemingly intent on destroying family farms that have operated for generations because they're too f*cking stupid to do anything else. |
That's just completely wrong.
Most farmland is worth very little, very few farms will cross the threshold.
There's a reason Clarkson bought his farm in the Cotswolds and not Ceredigion. | | | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 21:58 - Jun 7 with 695 views | Dr_Winston |
| Clarkson's Farm on 21:50 - Jun 7 by Scotia |
That's just completely wrong.
Most farmland is worth very little, very few farms will cross the threshold.
There's a reason Clarkson bought his farm in the Cotswolds and not Ceredigion. |
I didn't realise that only Ceredigion had genuine farmers.
Nonsense of course. Generational farms can be found everywhere in the UK. Or they can for the moment. If Labour's tax robbery stands then for the most part only Corporations and millionaires will be rich enough to farm.
I repeat, for the hard of thinking, there is a justifiable argument for closing the loophole to those who buy farmland to avoid tax. To implement a "one size fits all" approach is just moronic. | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 22:16 - Jun 7 with 670 views | Scotia |
| Clarkson's Farm on 21:58 - Jun 7 by Dr_Winston |
I didn't realise that only Ceredigion had genuine farmers.
Nonsense of course. Generational farms can be found everywhere in the UK. Or they can for the moment. If Labour's tax robbery stands then for the most part only Corporations and millionaires will be rich enough to farm.
I repeat, for the hard of thinking, there is a justifiable argument for closing the loophole to those who buy farmland to avoid tax. To implement a "one size fits all" approach is just moronic. |
It's not one size fits all though is it? Just look at the actual policy, the potential out points and the payment options. Before you consider the moral issue over farmers being excluded over any other person / business.
I work with farmers, my brother in law is one. I don't know anyone who'll be impacted.
Anyway, my point was relating to Clarkson. A millionaire who bought land to avoid inheritance tax. Turned it into a tourist attraction and I very much doubt is now using some of the most valuable agricultural land in the world to it's full agricultural value. Because he's not a farmer.
Why did he buy the land in the Cotswolds and not Ceredigion, Carmarthenshire, Powys, Argyll, Derbyshire, Northumberland.........? | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 22:22 - Jun 7 with 666 views | Dr_Winston |
| Clarkson's Farm on 22:16 - Jun 7 by Scotia |
It's not one size fits all though is it? Just look at the actual policy, the potential out points and the payment options. Before you consider the moral issue over farmers being excluded over any other person / business.
I work with farmers, my brother in law is one. I don't know anyone who'll be impacted.
Anyway, my point was relating to Clarkson. A millionaire who bought land to avoid inheritance tax. Turned it into a tourist attraction and I very much doubt is now using some of the most valuable agricultural land in the world to it's full agricultural value. Because he's not a farmer.
Why did he buy the land in the Cotswolds and not Ceredigion, Carmarthenshire, Powys, Argyll, Derbyshire, Northumberland.........? |
Jesus Christ can you read?
Third time. Maybe it'll sink in this time. Those who buy farmland for tax exemption purposes should be looked at. Those who don't, shouldn't.
There are no "moral issues" over farmland being exempted for those who have farmed land for generations. No sensible ones anyway. I'd rather farmers be tax exempt than yet more money squeezed by the Goverment to piss away. [Post edited 7 Jun 22:25]
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| Clarkson's Farm on 22:41 - Jun 7 with 640 views | Boundy |
| Clarkson's Farm on 22:16 - Jun 7 by Scotia |
It's not one size fits all though is it? Just look at the actual policy, the potential out points and the payment options. Before you consider the moral issue over farmers being excluded over any other person / business.
I work with farmers, my brother in law is one. I don't know anyone who'll be impacted.
Anyway, my point was relating to Clarkson. A millionaire who bought land to avoid inheritance tax. Turned it into a tourist attraction and I very much doubt is now using some of the most valuable agricultural land in the world to it's full agricultural value. Because he's not a farmer.
Why did he buy the land in the Cotswolds and not Ceredigion, Carmarthenshire, Powys, Argyll, Derbyshire, Northumberland.........? |
Because he was always living in the area and commuted to London , not easily done if he'd have bought a farm in say Derbyshire.Because you in your social circle don't happen to know any farmer not affected by the government robbing policy means it's not for real, ok then . | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 22:44 - Jun 7 with 639 views | Scotia |
| Clarkson's Farm on 22:22 - Jun 7 by Dr_Winston |
Jesus Christ can you read?
Third time. Maybe it'll sink in this time. Those who buy farmland for tax exemption purposes should be looked at. Those who don't, shouldn't.
There are no "moral issues" over farmland being exempted for those who have farmed land for generations. No sensible ones anyway. I'd rather farmers be tax exempt than yet more money squeezed by the Goverment to piss away. [Post edited 7 Jun 22:25]
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So what is the solution? A tick box on the transaction that says "are you buying this land to avoid inheritance tax?".
Once again, my point was about a man who bought land to avoid paying inheritance tax. He wasn't a farmer and isn't now
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| Clarkson's Farm on 22:50 - Jun 7 with 634 views | Dr_Winston |
| Clarkson's Farm on 22:44 - Jun 7 by Scotia |
So what is the solution? A tick box on the transaction that says "are you buying this land to avoid inheritance tax?".
Once again, my point was about a man who bought land to avoid paying inheritance tax. He wasn't a farmer and isn't now
Can you read? Has that sunk in? |
There's this entire, highly paid profession within the HMRC called "tax inspectors". Maybe they could be called into action?
You've made that point numerous times. I've never disputed it, even though you oddly seem to think that I have. Again, comprehension skills aren't the best it would appear. | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 23:00 - Jun 7 with 615 views | owainglyndwr |
Yes it's fantastic, Max you know I'm by a farm , but up with us it's far too wet and a rock bed environment, so only mostly live stock |  | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 23:02 - Jun 7 with 614 views | Scotia |
| Clarkson's Farm on 22:50 - Jun 7 by Dr_Winston |
There's this entire, highly paid profession within the HMRC called "tax inspectors". Maybe they could be called into action?
You've made that point numerous times. I've never disputed it, even though you oddly seem to think that I have. Again, comprehension skills aren't the best it would appear. |
But I've made the point that the policy was the right thing to do because it only targets the most valuable farms, if it was"means tested" or one size fits all as you suggested it would be based on area. The most valuable farms aren't in areas like Ceredigion, they're worth virtually nothing. They're in the Cotswolds where land is at a premium.
How can a tax inspector assess the intention of the person buying the land? I could buy a farm, chuck a few sheep on it for a while and it's a farm. Then sell it on avoiding tax. | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 23:04 - Jun 7 with 612 views | Scotia |
| Clarkson's Farm on 22:41 - Jun 7 by Boundy |
Because he was always living in the area and commuted to London , not easily done if he'd have bought a farm in say Derbyshire.Because you in your social circle don't happen to know any farmer not affected by the government robbing policy means it's not for real, ok then . |
https://www-hellomagazine-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.hellomagazine.com/homes
It's very convenient isn't it.
The original interview was with the Telegraph, it's not a surprise that's not available. [Post edited 7 Jun 23:05]
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| Clarkson's Farm on 23:06 - Jun 7 with 604 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Clarkson's Farm on 21:58 - Jun 7 by Dr_Winston |
I didn't realise that only Ceredigion had genuine farmers.
Nonsense of course. Generational farms can be found everywhere in the UK. Or they can for the moment. If Labour's tax robbery stands then for the most part only Corporations and millionaires will be rich enough to farm.
I repeat, for the hard of thinking, there is a justifiable argument for closing the loophole to those who buy farmland to avoid tax. To implement a "one size fits all" approach is just moronic. |
Correct, I wish those people who say family farmers should pay IHT would think for just a minute and realise they are supporting the transfer of family farms to big business and multi millionaires. |  |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 23:09 - Jun 7 with 601 views | Dr_Winston |
| Clarkson's Farm on 23:06 - Jun 7 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Correct, I wish those people who say family farmers should pay IHT would think for just a minute and realise they are supporting the transfer of family farms to big business and multi millionaires. |
Some people just don't get it. This thread is proof positive of that. | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 23:17 - Jun 7 with 590 views | Scotia |
| Clarkson's Farm on 23:06 - Jun 7 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Correct, I wish those people who say family farmers should pay IHT would think for just a minute and realise they are supporting the transfer of family farms to big business and multi millionaires. |
No they're not. That's the middle men. The supermarkets. [Post edited 7 Jun 23:20]
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| Clarkson's Farm on 23:19 - Jun 7 with 585 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Clarkson's Farm on 23:09 - Jun 7 by Dr_Winston |
Some people just don't get it. This thread is proof positive of that. |
It's a question of consequences, if we break up family farms what happens next? As you say you have to think around issued rather than simply decide if you agree with it as it is presented.
Bad politicians and poor journalists have a field day with people who don't do their research or think carefully about what is being presented. | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 23:38 - Jun 7 with 556 views | Scotia |
| Clarkson's Farm on 23:19 - Jun 7 by JACKMANANDBOY |
It's a question of consequences, if we break up family farms what happens next? As you say you have to think around issued rather than simply decide if you agree with it as it is presented.
Bad politicians and poor journalists have a field day with people who don't do their research or think carefully about what is being presented. |
Family farms are totally at the mercy of supermarkets and therefore us. If farms break up it'll be the supermarkets that take over.
We want to pay virtually nothing for eggs, milk, meat and we want to eat loads. Absolutely loads. We're fat and unhealthy.
The supermarkets want to make money so pay the farmers as little as possible, the farmers cut massive corners (often through being naive) and cause pollution because they have to produce food at industrial levels, they're basically an industry nowadays.
If you buy food from a supermarket, you're part of the problem. I know how incendiary that is but that's where we are.
There's too many of us and we don't have enough money to eat sustainably.
There are checks and balances in place for a lot of agricultural land too which also impacts its value. My brother in law farms about 250 acres on Gower, it's poor quality and only any good for sheep. It would never be allowed to be used for anything else due to planning restrictions. That's the case with most farms. | | | |
| Clarkson's Farm on 00:43 - Jun 8 with 532 views | max936 |
| Clarkson's Farm on 21:48 - Jun 7 by Scotia |
But the reason he bought the farm was to avoid inheritance tax, he's openly admitted it. That's the loophole labour has closed. He may have even avoided even more by turning it into an entertainment business.
Are you happy with a multi millionaire avoiding paying the tax you may have to? That's what he's done. |
He's made a series for Amazon its called entertainment, in making that program he's highlighted the pitfalls farmers face, if you watched the program you'd see it for yourself farmers work hard like he does he the program, so I don't begrudge them anything, its their kin who inherit the business after them and they have been brought up on the farm and have probably grafted on the farm from a young age, so they deserve any benefits that come their way.
How does Clarkson benefit from inheritance tax?, he's kids will but not him do you know what inheritance means if not look it up. | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 00:46 - Jun 8 with 531 views | max936 |
| Clarkson's Farm on 22:41 - Jun 7 by Boundy |
Because he was always living in the area and commuted to London , not easily done if he'd have bought a farm in say Derbyshire.Because you in your social circle don't happen to know any farmer not affected by the government robbing policy means it's not for real, ok then . |
Don't bother Boundy ffs, he's proper head work.  | |
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| Clarkson's Farm on 01:15 - Jun 8 with 523 views | Robbie |
Jeremy Clarkson , a marmite character to many but the chemistry with him , James May and Richard Hammond made for great Top Gear tele .
That programme then went into a period of short term stand in presenters and eventually was pulled , Flintoffs accident was the end , lets hope Freddy is still on the mend too .
Maybe stunt drivers and clever camera work made Top Gear entertaining , who cares .
Smug face still on Who Wants to be a Millionaire these days . | | | |
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