Lawrence Shankland 09:19 - Jun 9 with 1811 views | SaintNick | It seems that West Brom have offered him a contract and are about to sign him as he is out of contract. But the media in Birmingham are saying we are trying to hijack the deal, given is value is only about £2 million I would not bother, keep, Armstrong, Stewart & Cameron Archer. Discuss |  |
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Lawrence Shankland on 09:23 - Jun 9 with 1791 views | PatfromPoole | Funnily enough, I have also seen Shankland linked with Rangers. I don't know how damaged Armstrong and Archer (and also Brereton) will be by last season. Taking a major chance relying on the fitness of Stewart. Still, it seems Onuachu may finally be on his way, so it does free up funds for another striker. [Post edited 9 Jun 15:18]
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Lawrence Shankland on 10:08 - Jun 9 with 1717 views | kingslandstand1 | If valued at only £2m the SR will probably go for him and say how they are investing in and strengthening the squad But is he any good or better than the names you have mentioned? |  |
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Lawrence Shankland on 10:13 - Jun 9 with 1710 views | felly1 | Armstrong is a busted flush...he's not happy here , unless Still is desperate for him to stay I reckon he'll be off . Stewart ...honestly you would trust him not to get injured again?? Ontop of the fact we've hardly seen him play much. Archer.mmm , possibly keep, not bothered too much as he looks a poor footballer, but he's got a turn of pace and can finish. Josh Sargeant yes please, Joel Piroe yes please. .. |  | |  |
Lawrence Shankland on 10:46 - Jun 9 with 1651 views | SaintNick |
Lawrence Shankland on 10:13 - Jun 9 by felly1 | Armstrong is a busted flush...he's not happy here , unless Still is desperate for him to stay I reckon he'll be off . Stewart ...honestly you would trust him not to get injured again?? Ontop of the fact we've hardly seen him play much. Archer.mmm , possibly keep, not bothered too much as he looks a poor footballer, but he's got a turn of pace and can finish. Josh Sargeant yes please, Joel Piroe yes please. .. |
Is Armstrong a busted flush or was he like several others just a victim of two managers who were running their own agendas. Two years ago people were clamouring to sell Armstrong after a poor couple of seasons in the Premier League in terms of goals scored, but he was the best striker in the Championship for us with 21 goals and 13 assists, he had more goal involvements than anyone else. Stewart, had mainly been fit for the last 4 months of the season and played a part in all of the last 8 Premier League games, he was superb against Arsenal and showed he can create space and finish chances We shall see how he fares in pre season. Archer needs to ball played to his feet and he can finish, playing the balls into the channels wasn't the style of Russell Martin or Juric, so he was wasted, Perhaps under Still all three can flourish, it would certainly save us a few bob. Josh Sargent at Norwich has scored goals but only around 15 a season max Piroe, scored 19 for Leeds last season so a decent return, however 4 of them were against a Stoke side who conceded 6, could be worth a punt, but will Leeds keep him |  |
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Lawrence Shankland on 11:10 - Jun 9 with 1619 views | PatfromPoole |
Lawrence Shankland on 10:13 - Jun 9 by felly1 | Armstrong is a busted flush...he's not happy here , unless Still is desperate for him to stay I reckon he'll be off . Stewart ...honestly you would trust him not to get injured again?? Ontop of the fact we've hardly seen him play much. Archer.mmm , possibly keep, not bothered too much as he looks a poor footballer, but he's got a turn of pace and can finish. Josh Sargeant yes please, Joel Piroe yes please. .. |
I like Sargent; though he has been linked with following Farke to Leeds. |  |
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Lawrence Shankland on 11:21 - Jun 9 with 1608 views | felly1 | Keep forgetting we've got Breraton Diaz as well. After a decent start on loan at Sheff Utd he fizzled out and was benched. Similar to all our other strikers..potentially they could be great for us but serious question marks against them all...Diaz particularly looked absolutely awful for us and really terrible footballer. |  | |  |
Lawrence Shankland on 13:40 - Jun 9 with 1497 views | SonicBoom | It's virtually impossible for a striker to look good inn a team that refuses to get the ball up the pitch quickly. You soon tire of making runs and the ball never arrives, or you hold it up but there's no one around you. I was no fan of Che Adams but he made plenty of runs and no one ever gave him the ball. Stewart could be great but are we going to gamble on his fitness again? ? Archer is a mystery. Maybe the Championship will be his level. Armstrong does at least have a good record, but he didn't do well at West Brom. I'd suggest Still is going to have to do some serious thinking here. |  | |  |
Lawrence Shankland on 14:59 - Jun 9 with 1413 views | Butty101 |
Lawrence Shankland on 10:46 - Jun 9 by SaintNick | Is Armstrong a busted flush or was he like several others just a victim of two managers who were running their own agendas. Two years ago people were clamouring to sell Armstrong after a poor couple of seasons in the Premier League in terms of goals scored, but he was the best striker in the Championship for us with 21 goals and 13 assists, he had more goal involvements than anyone else. Stewart, had mainly been fit for the last 4 months of the season and played a part in all of the last 8 Premier League games, he was superb against Arsenal and showed he can create space and finish chances We shall see how he fares in pre season. Archer needs to ball played to his feet and he can finish, playing the balls into the channels wasn't the style of Russell Martin or Juric, so he was wasted, Perhaps under Still all three can flourish, it would certainly save us a few bob. Josh Sargent at Norwich has scored goals but only around 15 a season max Piroe, scored 19 for Leeds last season so a decent return, however 4 of them were against a Stoke side who conceded 6, could be worth a punt, but will Leeds keep him |
The only thing Armstrong is a victim of, is being allowed to play in the premiership when he is clearly not good enough. Time for a new start if anyone in the championship can match his wages. Prem Stats Adam Armstrong Played 88 goals 6 I can remember a couple years ago when Sulemana scored twice against Liverpool in a meaningless end of season game you told us that didnt count. So in a similar vain Stewart looking good against an Arsenal dosent mean squat. His career stats tell you hes a league one striker bar one little lip 3 years ago. [Post edited 9 Jun 15:14]
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Lawrence Shankland on 15:15 - Jun 9 with 1374 views | Chesham_Saint |
Lawrence Shankland on 11:21 - Jun 9 by felly1 | Keep forgetting we've got Breraton Diaz as well. After a decent start on loan at Sheff Utd he fizzled out and was benched. Similar to all our other strikers..potentially they could be great for us but serious question marks against them all...Diaz particularly looked absolutely awful for us and really terrible footballer. |
I think that's a bot unfair Lol, as he was stuck out on the wing when I saw him, which didn't seem the best way to use him? |  |
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Lawrence Shankland on 15:18 - Jun 9 with 1371 views | PatfromPoole |
Lawrence Shankland on 14:59 - Jun 9 by Butty101 | The only thing Armstrong is a victim of, is being allowed to play in the premiership when he is clearly not good enough. Time for a new start if anyone in the championship can match his wages. Prem Stats Adam Armstrong Played 88 goals 6 I can remember a couple years ago when Sulemana scored twice against Liverpool in a meaningless end of season game you told us that didnt count. So in a similar vain Stewart looking good against an Arsenal dosent mean squat. His career stats tell you hes a league one striker bar one little lip 3 years ago. [Post edited 9 Jun 15:14]
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I do agree with Nick on this one, in fairness. Armstrong did a great job in our promotion season, and is clearly committed to Saints. I am concerned that the side may be a little short on experience, and he provides that for us. I would be loath to let him go unless he demanded a transfer, which would surprise me. |  |
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Lawrence Shankland on 15:23 - Jun 9 with 1352 views | felly1 |
Lawrence Shankland on 10:46 - Jun 9 by SaintNick | Is Armstrong a busted flush or was he like several others just a victim of two managers who were running their own agendas. Two years ago people were clamouring to sell Armstrong after a poor couple of seasons in the Premier League in terms of goals scored, but he was the best striker in the Championship for us with 21 goals and 13 assists, he had more goal involvements than anyone else. Stewart, had mainly been fit for the last 4 months of the season and played a part in all of the last 8 Premier League games, he was superb against Arsenal and showed he can create space and finish chances We shall see how he fares in pre season. Archer needs to ball played to his feet and he can finish, playing the balls into the channels wasn't the style of Russell Martin or Juric, so he was wasted, Perhaps under Still all three can flourish, it would certainly save us a few bob. Josh Sargent at Norwich has scored goals but only around 15 a season max Piroe, scored 19 for Leeds last season so a decent return, however 4 of them were against a Stoke side who conceded 6, could be worth a punt, but will Leeds keep him |
Sargeant got 15 in 32 games .24/25 The season previous to this he got 16 in 26. Mins per goal he is the best in the Championship. |  | |  |
Lawrence Shankland on 15:23 - Jun 9 with 1352 views | Butty101 |
Lawrence Shankland on 15:18 - Jun 9 by PatfromPoole | I do agree with Nick on this one, in fairness. Armstrong did a great job in our promotion season, and is clearly committed to Saints. I am concerned that the side may be a little short on experience, and he provides that for us. I would be loath to let him go unless he demanded a transfer, which would surprise me. |
Whats going to motivate him to do well? If we go up he will instantly be canned. |  |
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Lawrence Shankland on 21:56 - Jun 9 with 1184 views | dirk_doone | I would get rid of as many as possible of our current strikers and bring in Ayoub El Kaabi. Because of his age, he wouldn't be expensive, but he'd score a lot more goals than anybody we currently have in our squad. |  |
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Lawrence Shankland on 08:55 - Jun 10 with 943 views | PatfromPoole |
Lawrence Shankland on 15:23 - Jun 9 by Butty101 | Whats going to motivate him to do well? If we go up he will instantly be canned. |
You could say that about that about virtually any player in the Championship nowadays. |  |
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Lawrence Shankland on 12:52 - Jun 10 with 829 views | dirk_doone |
Lawrence Shankland on 08:55 - Jun 10 by PatfromPoole | You could say that about that about virtually any player in the Championship nowadays. |
There are very few players in the Championship who are good enough for the Premier League nowadays. Even from the squads of the 3 teams that went up and came straight back down again this year, only a handful of players will be picked up by Premier League clubs and even they may not be good enough to be first team regulars. This is probably the strongest Premier League and weakest Championship there has ever been, because any half-decent players are already in the inflated squads of Premier League teams. Hence the massive gap. Of course, this also means that the gap between League One and the Championship has narrowed so much that promoted teams from League One may go straight up to the Premier League the following season. It tells you just how weak the Championship is that a team that finished bottom of the Premier League with a record number of defeats are the bookies' favourites to win it. [Post edited 10 Jun 12:53]
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