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£445 million for rail investment in Wales 10:01 - Jun 12 with 2378 viewsjohnlangy

This £445 million is split into three. The first pot of £300 million will ALL be spent on the line between Magor and Cardiff providing 5/6 new stations.

The second pot of £48 million is for enhancement to the Core Valleys Lines, part of the South Wales Metro which has already had £1.2 billion spent on it.

That leaves £90 million for a series of future projects over the next ten years. I wonder how many of those future projects will be in SE Wales.

So that means, effectively, just about everything for the already bloated South East Wales (similar to everything for the bloated South East of England on a UK basis) with almost nothing for the rest of Wales.

When Plaid's manifesto for next year's election is produced I expect them to state categorically that they will do a complete reversal of Welsh Labour's approach and invest everything they possibly can into the rest of Wales and not into the SE which has had far more than it's fair share for decades.
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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 10:40 - Jun 14 with 766 viewsraynor94

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 10:31 - Jun 14 by Whiterockin

In glad he's going in 12 months.


He should have gone 12 months ago at least

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 10:48 - Jun 14 with 747 viewsWhiterockin

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 10:40 - Jun 14 by raynor94

He should have gone 12 months ago at least


Agreed, he should have gone after leaving his position as first minister.
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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 11:31 - Jun 14 with 691 viewsDr_Winston

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 10:48 - Jun 14 by Whiterockin

Agreed, he should have gone after leaving his position as first minister.


Should have been driven out of office for his petty grandstanding during Covid.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 12:11 - Jun 14 with 655 viewsBoundy

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 11:31 - Jun 14 by Dr_Winston

Should have been driven out of office for his petty grandstanding during Covid.


I'm afraid the stench of his presence will continue to emanate even after his going. Along with too many others he's pursued his own policy agenda with no thought of their outcome for the rest of us .I wonder what directorship etc he'll be offered on his leaving , like his predecessor who now oversees the contribution made to the charity "size of Wales by the Welsh taxpayer . Maybe a seat at the House of Lords beckons ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 12:14 - Jun 14 with 652 viewsDr_Winston

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 12:11 - Jun 14 by Boundy

I'm afraid the stench of his presence will continue to emanate even after his going. Along with too many others he's pursued his own policy agenda with no thought of their outcome for the rest of us .I wonder what directorship etc he'll be offered on his leaving , like his predecessor who now oversees the contribution made to the charity "size of Wales by the Welsh taxpayer . Maybe a seat at the House of Lords beckons ?


Lord Drakeford. Almost inevitable.

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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 17:29 - Jun 14 with 573 viewsKilkennyjack

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 12:14 - Jun 14 by Dr_Winston

Lord Drakeford. Almost inevitable.


I cant see him accepting an honour from a foreign king tbh ….

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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 17:31 - Jun 14 with 572 viewsKilkennyjack

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 09:26 - Jun 14 by Boundy

"In Drakers we trust" must be the funniest thing that's been posted , ever.


🤣

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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 17:49 - Jun 14 with 558 viewsDr_Winston

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 17:29 - Jun 14 by Kilkennyjack

I cant see him accepting an honour from a foreign king tbh ….


He swore allegiance to his mother when he became First Minister.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-46553574

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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 19:34 - Jun 14 with 518 viewsSullutaCreturned

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 17:29 - Jun 14 by Kilkennyjack

I cant see him accepting an honour from a foreign king tbh ….


Foreign
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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 22:29 - Jun 14 with 481 viewsKilkennyjack

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 17:49 - Jun 14 by Dr_Winston

He swore allegiance to his mother when he became First Minister.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-46553574


Boris Johnson also did this …. 🤷‍♂️

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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 22:34 - Jun 14 with 462 viewsWhiterockin

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 22:29 - Jun 14 by Kilkennyjack

Boris Johnson also did this …. 🤷‍♂️


More whatsaboutary. It's wearing thin.
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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 08:36 - Jun 15 with 359 viewssons_of_omri

Again no electrification beyond Cardiff. Something will break one day when people over this side get fed up of having zero investment
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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 15:02 - Jun 15 with 293 viewsEagleEye

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 08:36 - Jun 15 by sons_of_omri

Again no electrification beyond Cardiff. Something will break one day when people over this side get fed up of having zero investment


Not worth the investment they say. They are more focussed on getting people from Treorchy & Ynysybwl into the capital to spend their dosh. Nobody with any clout cares about anything west of the Vale. Once the elected AMs from Swansea, Neath, Llanelli, Carmarthen etc pledge their allegiance to the Bay they think they have arrived in the big time & instantly forget about the plebs that voted them in
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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 15:13 - Jun 15 with 278 viewsDr_Winston

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 15:02 - Jun 15 by EagleEye

Not worth the investment they say. They are more focussed on getting people from Treorchy & Ynysybwl into the capital to spend their dosh. Nobody with any clout cares about anything west of the Vale. Once the elected AMs from Swansea, Neath, Llanelli, Carmarthen etc pledge their allegiance to the Bay they think they have arrived in the big time & instantly forget about the plebs that voted them in


It very much wasn't worth the investment.

Spending hundreds of millions of pounds to shave 5-10 minutes at best off the train time between Swansea and Cardiff would have been a collossal waste. The South Wales main line isn't straight enough to gain the full benefits of electrification.

The big issue was spending it to electrify the track between Bristol and Cardiff. It was equally pointless for the exact same reason yet they did it anyway. In knocking the Swansea part on the head they followed a poor decision with the right one.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 18:41 - Jun 15 with 214 viewsEagleEye

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 15:13 - Jun 15 by Dr_Winston

It very much wasn't worth the investment.

Spending hundreds of millions of pounds to shave 5-10 minutes at best off the train time between Swansea and Cardiff would have been a collossal waste. The South Wales main line isn't straight enough to gain the full benefits of electrification.

The big issue was spending it to electrify the track between Bristol and Cardiff. It was equally pointless for the exact same reason yet they did it anyway. In knocking the Swansea part on the head they followed a poor decision with the right one.


And electrification of the valleys lines is a good investment ?

In future there will be less and less trains to Swansea due to the missing electrification link. Trains to Cardiff, bus links to Swansea ?
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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 20:12 - Jun 15 with 191 viewsDr_Winston

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 18:41 - Jun 15 by EagleEye

And electrification of the valleys lines is a good investment ?

In future there will be less and less trains to Swansea due to the missing electrification link. Trains to Cardiff, bus links to Swansea ?


Why do you think I believe that? Wasn't I clear enough about how needlessly expensive it is in my last post?

I wouldn't be electrifying any of it.
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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 20:33 - Jun 15 with 170 viewsKilkennyjack

£445 million for rail investment in Wales on 15:13 - Jun 15 by Dr_Winston

It very much wasn't worth the investment.

Spending hundreds of millions of pounds to shave 5-10 minutes at best off the train time between Swansea and Cardiff would have been a collossal waste. The South Wales main line isn't straight enough to gain the full benefits of electrification.

The big issue was spending it to electrify the track between Bristol and Cardiff. It was equally pointless for the exact same reason yet they did it anyway. In knocking the Swansea part on the head they followed a poor decision with the right one.


Trains should be Swansea - Cardiff- London.

Should speed things up a bit.

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