| The Improved A465 13:41 - Jun 22 with 1648 views | max936 |
Is fantastic travelled up on it to Hereford on Friday and it's a magnificent feat of Engineering, all went well until I was 3.5miles just outside Hereford and it took me 20 minutes to travel those 3.5 miles 
Just come back on A465 and it's a fantastic, spoilt by the 50mph restrictions by Brynmawr and Gilwern. |  |
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| The Improved A465 on 10:00 - Jun 26 with 319 views | johnlangy |
| The Improved A465 on 22:31 - Jun 25 by Dr_Winston |
The 50mph limit through Port Talbot was ostensibly put in place to improve the air quality. As the limit has remained in place despite the closure of both Tata blast furnaces I think we can safely assume that this was a complete lie.
There's no reason why not to remove the average speed cameras on that stretch and put the limit back up to 70 but they won't unless forced to. |
A completely different argument against raising the limit to 70, at least through the PT part, is that the motorway does not meet current motorway quality. It's barely dual carriageway standard.
Whatever about air quality I wouldn't consider 70 on that part of the road safe. Think about the last PT junction heading west. The run in for traffic merging is horrendously short and bad enough if you're doing 50. |  | | |
| The Improved A465 on 10:07 - Jun 26 with 307 views | Whiterockin |
| The Improved A465 on 10:00 - Jun 26 by johnlangy |
A completely different argument against raising the limit to 70, at least through the PT part, is that the motorway does not meet current motorway quality. It's barely dual carriageway standard.
Whatever about air quality I wouldn't consider 70 on that part of the road safe. Think about the last PT junction heading west. The run in for traffic merging is horrendously short and bad enough if you're doing 50. |
Totally agree with this to a point. The limit lifts from 50 to 70 and the majority accelerate just as the roads are merging. Either lift the limit to 70 earlier or maintain the 50 until after the Llandarcy bend, possibly past the Skewen/Llansamlet turn off. |  | | |
| The Improved A465 on 12:15 - Jun 26 with 244 views | Boundy |
| The Improved A465 on 10:00 - Jun 26 by johnlangy |
A completely different argument against raising the limit to 70, at least through the PT part, is that the motorway does not meet current motorway quality. It's barely dual carriageway standard.
Whatever about air quality I wouldn't consider 70 on that part of the road safe. Think about the last PT junction heading west. The run in for traffic merging is horrendously short and bad enough if you're doing 50. |
Possibly the straightest section of motorway heading west towards the Ferry Bridge , agree about the run on by Taibach ,its a pity so many drivers haven't clue on how to enter onto a motorway . | |
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| The Improved A465 on 12:35 - Jun 26 with 230 views | Dr_Winston |
I'd close Junction 41. Those slip roads are too short.
Otherwise it's a fairly easy run through Port Talbot that would be perfectly safe at 70. |  |
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| The Improved A465 on 13:09 - Jun 26 with 220 views | Vincent_Vega |
I understand the safety aspect but if cars are infinitely safer now than they were in the 60's when the port talbot stretch was built why are we reducing the speed limit. The only argument is there's more vehicles on the roads but the amount of traffic about you can't speed anyway.
I would revert to the old 50mph sections at port talbot and remover the 50 by Newport apart from the brynglas. Both sections are infuriating as it is without fully capable roads being restrained by draconian limits. |  |
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| The Improved A465 on 16:07 - Jun 26 with 173 views | Whiterockin |
| The Improved A465 on 13:09 - Jun 26 by Vincent_Vega |
I understand the safety aspect but if cars are infinitely safer now than they were in the 60's when the port talbot stretch was built why are we reducing the speed limit. The only argument is there's more vehicles on the roads but the amount of traffic about you can't speed anyway.
I would revert to the old 50mph sections at port talbot and remover the 50 by Newport apart from the brynglas. Both sections are infuriating as it is without fully capable roads being restrained by draconian limits. |
We should go back to variable speed like many roads in England. The traffic at 5.30 pm can't be compared to 3am and the same with weather conditions. | | | |
| The Improved A465 on 16:44 - Jun 26 with 159 views | Vincent_Vega |
| The Improved A465 on 16:07 - Jun 26 by Whiterockin |
We should go back to variable speed like many roads in England. The traffic at 5.30 pm can't be compared to 3am and the same with weather conditions. |
I would go along with that as long as its well sign posted using the matrices. Not saying lets go full autobahn between 12am -5am. as long as its 3 lane with constant hard shoulder then why not have it at 80mph. All modern cars can take it. Only problem is commercial vehicles | |
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| The Improved A465 on 17:06 - Jun 26 with 150 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Improved A465 on 16:44 - Jun 26 by Vincent_Vega |
I would go along with that as long as its well sign posted using the matrices. Not saying lets go full autobahn between 12am -5am. as long as its 3 lane with constant hard shoulder then why not have it at 80mph. All modern cars can take it. Only problem is commercial vehicles |
Commercial vehicles can stay in the left hand lane.
There is no sensible argument against increasing the Motorway speed limit to 80mph, which would align it with many countries in Europe. I also agree that speed limits in general should be variable depending upon weather, traffic levels, time of day etc. | |
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| The Improved A465 on 17:19 - Jun 26 with 144 views | Boundy |
| The Improved A465 on 12:35 - Jun 26 by Dr_Winston |
I'd close Junction 41. Those slip roads are too short.
Otherwise it's a fairly easy run through Port Talbot that would be perfectly safe at 70. |
I believe it was closed a couple of years back as a trial ,not sure what it proved but I'm sure the experts in the Senedd have decided its ok because its reopened and still causing chaos. | |
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| The Improved A465 on 23:23 - Jun 26 with 82 views | majorraglan |
Junction 41 at Pentyla is a bit of a mare, the eastbound entry slip road is very close to the eastbound exit slip road and there’s a lot of traffic entering the M4 only to leave just about 200 yards later. Maybe, if there wasn’t a 20mph limit on Dina’s Baglan Road more people would stay off the M4 and us the old toad in to Port Talbot.
Coming west bound, the entry and exit works the same way for the same reasons, anyone living in Baglan or Briton Ferry or West Sandfields will use the M4 because most of the local roads are 20mph.
The “new” distributor road from Margam Crem to the Bagle Brook roundabout could take a lot of traffic off the M4 if it had some decent speed limits, but 30, 40 and 50 mph limits on an empty fast road just isn’t cutting it.
Llandarcy is a massive issue as well, that needs a serious looking at too. | | | |
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