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The Gwent levels 20:38 - Jul 2 with 1315 viewsSullutaCreturned

The Senedd wouldn't put a road across it for ecological reasons but it sems they aren't averse to all developments on that land,

walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/this-irretrievably-damage-nationally-important-31974084?int_source=nba

I understand the need for more renewable energy but we can't keep damaging habitats to get that sustainable electricity..

Who remembers Drakefirds stance at the time?

Mr Drakeford's move to scrap the six-lane scheme follows a public inquiry overseen by planning inspector Bill Wadrup, who said the case for the road had been "compelling".

Ministers had decided that, with austerity and Brexit in the background, the uncertainty of the financial position of the Welsh Government meant the project was too expensive.

But Mark Drakeford said he would not have gone ahead even if it was affordable because of the impact on the Gwent Levels.

Mr Cairns said: "It appears that the first minister thinks he knows better than the independent inquiry."

These solar farm schemes could cover even more land than the motorway if they are all approved and once one is approved it sets a precedent. So what of the impact on the levels now Mark Drakeford?
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The Gwent levels on 18:13 - Jul 4 with 370 viewspencoedjack

I landed in Bristol from Dublin @ 1pm this afternoon loads of people on there going to Oasis gig it took me 3 & half hours to get to Pencoed diverted off the m4 through Newport.

Any sensible person can see the damage this is doing to the Welsh economy, no new employers, holiday makers not bothering & it wouldn’t surprise me if bands stopped playing gigs due to poor transport links for fans.

It saddens me what they are doing to our economy.
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The Gwent levels on 19:08 - Jul 4 with 327 viewsSullutaCreturned

The Gwent levels on 18:13 - Jul 4 by pencoedjack

I landed in Bristol from Dublin @ 1pm this afternoon loads of people on there going to Oasis gig it took me 3 & half hours to get to Pencoed diverted off the m4 through Newport.

Any sensible person can see the damage this is doing to the Welsh economy, no new employers, holiday makers not bothering & it wouldn’t surprise me if bands stopped playing gigs due to poor transport links for fans.

It saddens me what they are doing to our economy.


Here's a thought, build the relief road then line the sides with Solar panels!
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The Gwent levels on 19:09 - Jul 4 with 316 viewsWhiterockin

The Gwent levels on 19:08 - Jul 4 by SullutaCreturned

Here's a thought, build the relief road then line the sides with Solar panels!


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The Gwent levels on 20:14 - Jul 4 with 278 viewsReslovenSwan1

The Gwent levels on 18:41 - Jul 3 by SullutaCreturned

Or, you could be entirely wrong....I suppose they could be balancing the metal frames on top of the earth with nothing to hold them in place...

vitalenergi.co.uk/solar-farms/

A small access road, then how do they get the JCB's there?


The photo shows a small dirt track and the panels on trestle with no concrete foundations. There could be hand held short ground pins. when they are re,move they will leave no scar. It could be they are located in drier areas of the levels away from the ecological wetlands.

I watched the installation of a giant circus tent last month . Hand held steel dowels grouted in were enough. It need a huge force to pull them d out depending on the bond and characteristics of the ground.

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The Gwent levels on 20:21 - Jul 4 with 267 viewspencoedjack

We must be the only country in the world who put newts & frogs welfare over the livelihoods of its citizens.

You couldn’t make it up.
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The Gwent levels on 23:35 - Jul 4 with 225 viewsReslovenSwan1

The Gwent levels on 20:21 - Jul 4 by pencoedjack

We must be the only country in the world who put newts & frogs welfare over the livelihoods of its citizens.

You couldn’t make it up.


At the same tine HMG and the water authorities and sat on their hands and watched the trashing of rivers like the River Wye,

What to the Environment Agency and Natural Resources Wales do all day while our rivers become toilets?

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The Gwent levels on 00:28 - Jul 5 with 213 viewsmax936

The Gwent levels on 23:35 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1

At the same tine HMG and the water authorities and sat on their hands and watched the trashing of rivers like the River Wye,

What to the Environment Agency and Natural Resources Wales do all day while our rivers become toilets?


You have absolutely no idea of what the Wye is like none at all.

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The Gwent levels on 11:18 - Jul 5 with 147 viewsScotia

The Gwent levels on 20:21 - Jul 4 by pencoedjack

We must be the only country in the world who put newts & frogs welfare over the livelihoods of its citizens.

You couldn’t make it up.


It's EU legislation so they've got the same protection across Europe.

The Gwent levels isn't the best place for either solar farms or the M4 relief road

The lack of the relief road is a huge mess up that's as much to do with Carwyn Jones (went for the cheapest route) as Drakeford who then made development in the area "illegal".
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The Gwent levels on 11:21 - Jul 5 with 146 viewsSullutaCreturned

The Gwent levels on 11:18 - Jul 5 by Scotia

It's EU legislation so they've got the same protection across Europe.

The Gwent levels isn't the best place for either solar farms or the M4 relief road

The lack of the relief road is a huge mess up that's as much to do with Carwyn Jones (went for the cheapest route) as Drakeford who then made development in the area "illegal".


If it's illegal to develop there then surely there can't be wind farms either?
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The Gwent levels on 11:39 - Jul 5 with 132 viewsScotia

The Gwent levels on 11:21 - Jul 5 by SullutaCreturned

If it's illegal to develop there then surely there can't be wind farms either?


I used inverted commas because it isn't a law that's being dodged but planning policy.

There shouldn't be any development in / on a site that's protected to the same degree that parts of the Gwent levels are.
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The Gwent levels on 11:44 - Jul 5 with 123 viewsmax936

The Gwent levels on 11:21 - Jul 5 by SullutaCreturned

If it's illegal to develop there then surely there can't be wind farms either?


Exactly, but wait for the beep beep beep from the dullard Drakeford he thinks he's a law unto himself, the fact he's now the finance minister will make no difference.

Next May can't come quick enough, get rid of him and Labour, but he'll still be lingering about like a foul smell, he's clearly got no life outside of the senedd.

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