| Brentford taking their full allocation 08:11 - Jul 29 with 9970 views | dandaqpr |
Looks like they have an interest in reminding us on how well they’re doing. QPR fans on the whole don’t seem to do friendlies , but on this occasion our apathy will be used by them to show how well supported they are compared to us. It’s cobblers of course, but it won’t be a good look. So turn up if you can and deny them their PR stunt. |  | | |  |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 13:31 - Jul 29 with 2992 views | Juzzie |
We turned up in big numbers (they didn't) for the U21/Development final and all it did is give them ammunition to say "only there for your cup final" which was kind of funny considering it actually was a cup final.
So, if we do turn up in numbers again, it'll just be the same... we're there only because of them.
If we don't turn up, it'll be 'tin pot support'
Either way, they'll find a way to slag us off whatever we do.
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| Brentford taking their full allocation on 13:40 - Jul 29 with 2940 views | LowerloftLad |
I have mates who are season ticket holders at Brentford
One was a Liverpool supporter still is and Claimes he only goes because its close.
One was an arsenal fan up until 2015 then seems to have no memory of ever wondering around in arsenal top.
One is still man u fan who has a season ticket and whoever i chat to him only ever chats about united.
I have Two mates who followed Brentford everywhere and they hate the new influx of fake fans. |  |
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| Brentford taking their full allocation on 13:42 - Jul 29 with 2926 views | Paddyhoops |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 09:07 - Jul 29 by SK_hoops |
Ugh, don't remind me. One of the only games I ever left early. |
If we’re 3 down with 5 minutes to go . I go home .
Glad I stayed but I think Ollie burnt a lot of bridges with his rant after that game. | | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 13:45 - Jul 29 with 2913 views | 100percent |
Last pre-season before the opening game next week.
Julien Should at least be playing the side that will be very close to the first team next weekend.
Quite looking forward to watching the new signings in the format we will be approaching the new season... |  | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 13:54 - Jul 29 with 2861 views | NewBee |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 09:30 - Jul 29 by DavieQPR |
Price of their Home tickets it will be the only game that many of them will see live this season. First Home game against Villa only sold in pairs at tickle under £130 each. |
Eh?
By "only sold in pairs at tickle under £130 each", I assume you don't mean £260. And even £130 a pair/£65 each is misleading, since those are the top priced "Dugout" tickets, which as well as the best seats in the house, offer other benefits (own bar etc). Which reflects that all other tickets have sold out for that game and I don't expect there will be too many Dugout seats left, either.
Aside from that, adult tickets range from £30 (Family Section) through £40, £45 and £50 before you get to Dugout, with decent discounts for concessions.
All of which is before you get to Season Tickets, which offer even better discounts eg my own Adult ST in the West Stand ("home end") works out at £23 per game. Which for PL football with Safe Standing, and an excellent view in a modern stadium offers excellent value (imo).
Perhaps you're mistaking us with Fulham? | | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 14:07 - Jul 29 with 2786 views | NewBee |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 09:27 - Jul 29 by Hayesender |
They're a funny lot. I delivered the post off of Northfields ave for years, and obviously you get to know people.
When they got promoted to the prem, people who had never shown the slightest bit of interest in football, and worse still, people who were self professed Liverpool/man utd/Chelsea fans (delete as appropriate) suddenly started getting Brentford fan starter packs delivered.
It's the same now down here in Littlehampton. You wouldn't believe the amount of Liverpool/man utd/man City fans have season tickets at Brighton.
I find it all a bit weird |
I think the "once they got promoted to the Premier League" bit is key, though perhaps not in the way you think.
That is, a lot of those people may have been "fans" of Man U or Liverpool etc, but never actually went, if only because they could never get tickets.
So instead they went to Griffin Park every now and then - pay on the day no problem, bring the kids along etc. Then after promotion, the only way you could get a ticket was if you were a Member, hence the sudden arrival of Membership packs etc.
Which is not to get into a willy-waving contest of how many fans we have etc, but a simple reflection of changed ticketing arrangements, rather than changed support.
Of course, we still have a number of "supporters" attending for whom Brentford are the "second team" - it didn't mean that much when they were two divisions lower and never met etc.
But aside from those who are now converting, it is noticeable that a lot of their kids have become ardent Bees fans i.e. their Dads' teams never actually meant much to them if they were living in Middlesex or Surrey and only ever got to see them on TV.
Make of all that what you will. | | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 14:12 - Jul 29 with 2752 views | TheChef |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 14:07 - Jul 29 by NewBee |
I think the "once they got promoted to the Premier League" bit is key, though perhaps not in the way you think.
That is, a lot of those people may have been "fans" of Man U or Liverpool etc, but never actually went, if only because they could never get tickets.
So instead they went to Griffin Park every now and then - pay on the day no problem, bring the kids along etc. Then after promotion, the only way you could get a ticket was if you were a Member, hence the sudden arrival of Membership packs etc.
Which is not to get into a willy-waving contest of how many fans we have etc, but a simple reflection of changed ticketing arrangements, rather than changed support.
Of course, we still have a number of "supporters" attending for whom Brentford are the "second team" - it didn't mean that much when they were two divisions lower and never met etc.
But aside from those who are now converting, it is noticeable that a lot of their kids have become ardent Bees fans i.e. their Dads' teams never actually meant much to them if they were living in Middlesex or Surrey and only ever got to see them on TV.
Make of all that what you will. |
Fortunately all our tourists p1ssed off as soon as we got relegated from the Prem.
Will be interesting to see what happens next time we go up (ooooooh my aching sides....) |  |
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| Brentford taking their full allocation on 14:21 - Jul 29 with 2717 views | Juzzie |
I moved into the TW postcode/Brentford catchment area circa 2014, which I think was their first season upwards out of the 3rd tier in decades, and there was the odd smattering of kids/adults in shirts but not that many. The usual array of Arsenal, Liverpool, Man Utd etc and reassuringly, not many 'Chels'.
That has changed a lot in the last 10 years and it does seem that a lot of the kids are Brentford fans first & foremost as opposed to their parents who supported the aforementioned clubs so they are probably the generation that will carry on but that feels to me that means the club needs to be in the top flight for a few more years yet so these kids can start going by themselves when they are older. If they slip out of the PL and mill around the Championship for many years those kids could switch elsewhere such is the peer pressure with youtube, FM, tiktok etc. | | | |
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| Brentford taking their full allocation on 14:36 - Jul 29 with 2647 views | NewBee |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 14:21 - Jul 29 by Juzzie |
I moved into the TW postcode/Brentford catchment area circa 2014, which I think was their first season upwards out of the 3rd tier in decades, and there was the odd smattering of kids/adults in shirts but not that many. The usual array of Arsenal, Liverpool, Man Utd etc and reassuringly, not many 'Chels'.
That has changed a lot in the last 10 years and it does seem that a lot of the kids are Brentford fans first & foremost as opposed to their parents who supported the aforementioned clubs so they are probably the generation that will carry on but that feels to me that means the club needs to be in the top flight for a few more years yet so these kids can start going by themselves when they are older. If they slip out of the PL and mill around the Championship for many years those kids could switch elsewhere such is the peer pressure with youtube, FM, tiktok etc. |
Good post.
We should never underestimate the "generational" effect. That is, Bees spent so much time out of the top, even second, division, that while kids maybe continued following their Dads' team, by the time it got to grandkids, the thread was often broken, esp when the grandkids had moved away from the area.
Tbf to QPR, your crowds are still pretty good, esp considering prices, stadium and standard of football etc. I think a lot of this must be because memories to the top division are still reasonably strong amongst people in the middle generation.
But while you still probably get a fair number of youngsters at LR these days, I suspect that that may only be because they cant afford, or even get, tickets to a PL match.
Which may not be enough to maintain the thread over the longer term, if the club still remains outside the PL and those kids become adults themselves and find something else to do on Saturday afternoons?
I'm sure that hit Brentford hard, and it will take more than just a few seasons in the PL to restore - a whole generation in fact? [Post edited 29 Jul 14:38]
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| Brentford taking their full allocation on 15:20 - Jul 29 with 2540 views | Juzzie |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 14:36 - Jul 29 by NewBee |
Good post.
We should never underestimate the "generational" effect. That is, Bees spent so much time out of the top, even second, division, that while kids maybe continued following their Dads' team, by the time it got to grandkids, the thread was often broken, esp when the grandkids had moved away from the area.
Tbf to QPR, your crowds are still pretty good, esp considering prices, stadium and standard of football etc. I think a lot of this must be because memories to the top division are still reasonably strong amongst people in the middle generation.
But while you still probably get a fair number of youngsters at LR these days, I suspect that that may only be because they cant afford, or even get, tickets to a PL match.
Which may not be enough to maintain the thread over the longer term, if the club still remains outside the PL and those kids become adults themselves and find something else to do on Saturday afternoons?
I'm sure that hit Brentford hard, and it will take more than just a few seasons in the PL to restore - a whole generation in fact? [Post edited 29 Jul 14:38]
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Feels to me the only way a club of both our size can survive with local(ish) core support is to stay out of the PL.
Being in the PL feels to me any locality just goes and that club just becomes another identity-less club. We were swamped with camera wielding screaming Koreans who were there to see Park Ji-sung and the screaming was just odd.
So, it's one or the other IMO.
IMO, it's why West Ham have 'London' on their badge and changed the stadium name to 'The London Stadium'. Outside of the UK a lot of people probably don't know where West Ham are from so they needed to keep it globally aware they are from London.
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| Brentford taking their full allocation on 15:29 - Jul 29 with 2512 views | Juzzie |
p.s. my Brentford supporting colleague is a little bit worried about the season ahead.
Manager and all the backroom staff gone, new Manager an internal appointment, top striker gone, captain gone, other star striker refusing to train and likely to go.
Now, we worked out all the transfer money + compensation from Spurs for Thomas Frank & Co. could net the club circa £120m which is very nice indeed but other clubs will know this and start slapping on extra amounts. He was saying they're interested in an Ipswich player which could cost them around £40m with add-ons so that's a third of that money gone on just one player.
£120m sounds a lot (and it is!) but the insane amounts players are bought and sold for these days it's proportionally not actually a lot if it only get's you three or four players. | | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 15:52 - Jul 29 with 2433 views | NewBee |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 15:20 - Jul 29 by Juzzie |
Feels to me the only way a club of both our size can survive with local(ish) core support is to stay out of the PL.
Being in the PL feels to me any locality just goes and that club just becomes another identity-less club. We were swamped with camera wielding screaming Koreans who were there to see Park Ji-sung and the screaming was just odd.
So, it's one or the other IMO.
IMO, it's why West Ham have 'London' on their badge and changed the stadium name to 'The London Stadium'. Outside of the UK a lot of people probably don't know where West Ham are from so they needed to keep it globally aware they are from London.
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Fair point that if you cannot compete with PL clubs on equal terms, then you have to find another identity - was "Sh1t but local" one of yours? (No offence meant, btw)
But the only problem there is your ground, since for all that old timers love LR in the way that we loved Griffin Park etc, fact is, it is becoming increasingly unfit for purpose and eventually the new, younger fans whom you need to keep replenishing the fanbase may decide that it's simply not good enough and opt to spend their money on something else shiny and new (not necessarily PL)?
As for WHU, they very definitely had an identity at the Boleyn, but that was lost with the move to Stratford. hence their risible attempt to replace it with 'Brand London' (ugh!)
And if (when?) they ever get relegated out of the PL, unless they come back up again very soon, they'll be right royally farked rattling around a crap 60k athletics stadium in games against Oxford, Swansea, Hull etc. Bring it on! | | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 16:03 - Jul 29 with 2413 views | NewBee |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 15:29 - Jul 29 by Juzzie |
p.s. my Brentford supporting colleague is a little bit worried about the season ahead.
Manager and all the backroom staff gone, new Manager an internal appointment, top striker gone, captain gone, other star striker refusing to train and likely to go.
Now, we worked out all the transfer money + compensation from Spurs for Thomas Frank & Co. could net the club circa £120m which is very nice indeed but other clubs will know this and start slapping on extra amounts. He was saying they're interested in an Ipswich player which could cost them around £40m with add-ons so that's a third of that money gone on just one player.
£120m sounds a lot (and it is!) but the insane amounts players are bought and sold for these days it's proportionally not actually a lot if it only get's you three or four players. |
Yeah, I oknow what he means. But I take comfort from the fact that at the end of last season (i.e before the departures), I and many other fans were thinking of top eight, maybe even Europe, for 2025/26.
Meaning that even if we slip back instead this season, that should still leave us with enough of a cushion - to 15th? - from which to rebuild for the following season. Either way, Bees fans have a huge amount of trust in the guys running the club to have "A Plan For All Seasons".
And even if that fails, our "Get Out Of Jail" card could still be that there will be three other teams - the promoted teams? - who are so crap that they'll have the relegation places sewn up by Xmas. | | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 16:42 - Jul 29 with 2346 views | HoopinEssex |
I will be going. Hopefully we turn up and stuff them | | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 17:17 - Jul 29 with 2269 views | Juzzie |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 15:52 - Jul 29 by NewBee |
Fair point that if you cannot compete with PL clubs on equal terms, then you have to find another identity - was "Sh1t but local" one of yours? (No offence meant, btw)
But the only problem there is your ground, since for all that old timers love LR in the way that we loved Griffin Park etc, fact is, it is becoming increasingly unfit for purpose and eventually the new, younger fans whom you need to keep replenishing the fanbase may decide that it's simply not good enough and opt to spend their money on something else shiny and new (not necessarily PL)?
As for WHU, they very definitely had an identity at the Boleyn, but that was lost with the move to Stratford. hence their risible attempt to replace it with 'Brand London' (ugh!)
And if (when?) they ever get relegated out of the PL, unless they come back up again very soon, they'll be right royally farked rattling around a crap 60k athletics stadium in games against Oxford, Swansea, Hull etc. Bring it on! |
"$hit but local" is very much a badge of honour for us so no offence!!
The whole stadium situation is a very hot topic and been discussed in great detail (many times) on here but we are no nearer knowing how the future lies in that respect. | | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 17:58 - Jul 29 with 2174 views | switchingcode |
Very important game for both sides to get players match ready with opening games coming up.Dont normally do pre season friendlies but going to this with some Rangers mates and want to check out new signings and enjoy a non PL atmosphere with no VAR.Think your fan base has held up well over last season with many near capacity home attendances when the team were struggling the wrong end of the table. | | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 09:35 - Jul 30 with 1694 views | Bluce_Ree |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 10:32 - Jul 29 by DavieQPR |
That's the spirit. Might as well shut down the club and all go home. Saves all this depression. |
Now you're talking, Davie. Where do I sign up? |  |
| Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. |
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| Brentford taking their full allocation on 09:47 - Jul 30 with 1664 views | ActonExile |
They only brought about 300 to the Premier Cup Final, they'll be lucky to bring 1,000 on Saturday.
I grew up in Acton and went to school in Ealing and never knew any Brentford, i know more now in Uxbridge. | |
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| Brentford taking their full allocation on 14:04 - Jul 30 with 1459 views | NorthantsHoop |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 09:47 - Jul 30 by ActonExile |
They only brought about 300 to the Premier Cup Final, they'll be lucky to bring 1,000 on Saturday.
I grew up in Acton and went to school in Ealing and never knew any Brentford, i know more now in Uxbridge. |
When I was growing up in Northolt in the 1970s, not a dickie bird locally about Brentford, at our school it was mainly QPR, Chelsea, Arsenal, didn't really have any Man Utd or Liverpool as far as I can remember. Started to come into more contact with Brentford fans when playing Sunday League football in the 1980s and a good friend and his family were Brentford regulars, but we could always laud it over them as QPR were superior in those days and Brentford were primarily a 4th division team. You have to admire how well they have progressed in last 10 or so years, even though it is annoying that the media love them ,whereas to me the media seem to have a disdain or probably more of a disinterest towards QPR. [Post edited 30 Jul 14:20]
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| Brentford taking their full allocation on 14:25 - Jul 30 with 1383 views | Juzzie |
The media always love a 'plucky' story. Plucky Bournemouth, plucky Swansea(ola), plucky Leicester and so on.
We were probably 'plucky' at one point, as were the likes of Charlton, but they always get bored and move on elsewhere. This season coming it'll be 'plucky Wrexham' until we are sick of it. | | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 14:36 - Jul 30 with 1327 views | SK_hoops |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 09:47 - Jul 30 by ActonExile |
They only brought about 300 to the Premier Cup Final, they'll be lucky to bring 1,000 on Saturday.
I grew up in Acton and went to school in Ealing and never knew any Brentford, i know more now in Uxbridge. |
I went to school in Ealing and a few people went to games, but were really Man U fans. At high school there was one more and he was an absolute fanatic who would go to games like Hartlepool away on a Tuesday night. I now live in Brentford and know tonnes of them. I think their catchment area is far smaller historically, but is growing, as I see far more Brentford fans than QPR around Northfields now. | | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 14:37 - Jul 30 with 1319 views | DavieQPR |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 13:54 - Jul 29 by NewBee |
Eh?
By "only sold in pairs at tickle under £130 each", I assume you don't mean £260. And even £130 a pair/£65 each is misleading, since those are the top priced "Dugout" tickets, which as well as the best seats in the house, offer other benefits (own bar etc). Which reflects that all other tickets have sold out for that game and I don't expect there will be too many Dugout seats left, either.
Aside from that, adult tickets range from £30 (Family Section) through £40, £45 and £50 before you get to Dugout, with decent discounts for concessions.
All of which is before you get to Season Tickets, which offer even better discounts eg my own Adult ST in the West Stand ("home end") works out at £23 per game. Which for PL football with Safe Standing, and an excellent view in a modern stadium offers excellent value (imo).
Perhaps you're mistaking us with Fulham? |
Go to your website and look to purchase a ticket for your first home game. £130 each £260 the pair. That's the cheapest ones on sale. |  | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 15:57 - Jul 30 with 1218 views | dmm |
I usually go to home friendlies but I find this fixture a strange one and won't be attending.
Pre-season games are arranged to achieve a number of things. among them to instill confidence in the squad that the head coach/manager has a strategy that works. So why arrange the final friendly against a team that has superior players and will want to beat us on a number of scores. It doesn't make any sense to me. |  | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 16:23 - Jul 30 with 1163 views | Beejnewark |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 14:25 - Jul 30 by Juzzie |
The media always love a 'plucky' story. Plucky Bournemouth, plucky Swansea(ola), plucky Leicester and so on.
We were probably 'plucky' at one point, as were the likes of Charlton, but they always get bored and move on elsewhere. This season coming it'll be 'plucky Wrexham' until we are sick of it. |
Sick of Wrexham already, to be honest. | | | |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 17:45 - Jul 30 with 1062 views | Monkey_Roots |
| Brentford taking their full allocation on 15:57 - Jul 30 by dmm |
I usually go to home friendlies but I find this fixture a strange one and won't be attending.
Pre-season games are arranged to achieve a number of things. among them to instill confidence in the squad that the head coach/manager has a strategy that works. So why arrange the final friendly against a team that has superior players and will want to beat us on a number of scores. It doesn't make any sense to me. |
We're on the other side of that theory dmm.
We're the team that's supposed to give Brentford confidence, and their manager a strategy that works... unless our lot haven't read the script. |  | | |
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