| Are kids better off these days 08:54 - Aug 11 with 1279 views | onehunglow |
Don't think we've discussed this
Worth an exchange or two
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| Are kids better off these days on 11:22 - Aug 11 with 1212 views | paulmatthews |
Maybe on a non football forum? | | | |
| Are kids better off these days on 11:49 - Aug 11 with 1186 views | union_jack |
I heard a line somewhere today that we are no better off, no worse off it’s just different. In 30 years time, those kids will be saying ‘it wasn’t like that in my days lad, you don’t know you’re born.’ Twas ever thus. |  |
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| Are kids better off these days on 11:52 - Aug 11 with 1181 views | Whiterockin |
| Are kids better off these days on 11:49 - Aug 11 by union_jack |
I heard a line somewhere today that we are no better off, no worse off it’s just different. In 30 years time, those kids will be saying ‘it wasn’t like that in my days lad, you don’t know you’re born.’ Twas ever thus. |
It was certainly a lot safer for children 30 years ago. |  | | |
| Are kids better off these days on 12:00 - Aug 11 with 1164 views | union_jack |
| Are kids better off these days on 11:52 - Aug 11 by Whiterockin |
It was certainly a lot safer for children 30 years ago. |
In some ways maybe.
Maybe 30 years ago is a bit too recent but roads when I was a kid 60+ years ago were more dangerous. Cars were heavier, brakes not as good, road policing not as strict, drink driving more acceptable / no breathalyser, people not having ever taken a driving test.
Crime against kids probably no different, those type of perpetrators have always been there.
Sexual crimes against girls / women? Now I don’t have the stats to back it up but I’d say that’s increased exponentially due to reasons we know about. | |
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| Are kids better off these days on 13:20 - Aug 11 with 1110 views | onehunglow |
| Are kids better off these days on 12:00 - Aug 11 by union_jack |
In some ways maybe.
Maybe 30 years ago is a bit too recent but roads when I was a kid 60+ years ago were more dangerous. Cars were heavier, brakes not as good, road policing not as strict, drink driving more acceptable / no breathalyser, people not having ever taken a driving test.
Crime against kids probably no different, those type of perpetrators have always been there.
Sexual crimes against girls / women? Now I don’t have the stats to back it up but I’d say that’s increased exponentially due to reasons we know about. |
I'd say infinitely worse off now
Everywhere and everything needs to be vetted
No freedom as we had
And no jobs for life nor jobs for those non academically advantaged
Mobiles have killed off conversational skills
God bless em | |
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| Are kids better off these days on 18:13 - Aug 11 with 1024 views | shingle |
Worse off and it's going to get a whole lot worse for them, i doubt today's Grandchildren in years to come will be looking back at our Generation with to much affection. | | | |
| Are kids better off these days on 21:01 - Aug 11 with 970 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are kids better off these days on 18:13 - Aug 11 by shingle |
Worse off and it's going to get a whole lot worse for them, i doubt today's Grandchildren in years to come will be looking back at our Generation with to much affection. |
They'll be better off blaming their parents, it's the 25-35's who are mostly in the snowflake camp. They need safe places because words hurt so much, we're not allowed to insult people, it makes them cry.
Besides, most of the damage is being down by the rich and powerful and their political mates. | | | |
| Are kids better off these days on 01:08 - Aug 12 with 889 views | Robbie |
Grew up under the idea my Old Man installed in me , get a Pension Plan through your Workplace wages , save for a Mortgage and buy your first house whatever .
Because of my income then k8 per annun and a rigid working contract a flexible Building Society took a chance on me .
Yougsters I speak to now in my workplace are k9 a year in debt in tuition fees .
Each year that rolling debt has to be paid back , some Courses last 5 years .
Rightly , we can blame the feral and criminals in our younger generation , all out of control .
I also come across a lot of good honest youngsters on a daily basis too . | | | |
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| Are kids better off these days on 16:33 - Aug 12 with 719 views | Gwyn737 |
| Are kids better off these days on 11:49 - Aug 11 by union_jack |
I heard a line somewhere today that we are no better off, no worse off it’s just different. In 30 years time, those kids will be saying ‘it wasn’t like that in my days lad, you don’t know you’re born.’ Twas ever thus. |
That’s about right I reckon - so hard to compare.
There are some specific challenges for young people now around money - with the obvious exceptions of war times, these are the first generations to grow up poorer than their parents and in many cases will have a worse quality of life.
There’s also the feeling that the generation before have pulled the ladder up behind them, hence the ‘Boomer’ term being a common insult.
There’s also quite a lot of data around teenagers in the uk being particularly unhappy compared to other countries which is a worry. | | | |
| Are kids better off these days on 18:27 - Aug 12 with 667 views | shingle |
Or a dumb public with no backbone who allow the elite to do what they do. | | | |
| Are kids better off these days on 17:17 - Aug 17 with 523 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are kids better off these days on 16:33 - Aug 12 by Gwyn737 |
That’s about right I reckon - so hard to compare.
There are some specific challenges for young people now around money - with the obvious exceptions of war times, these are the first generations to grow up poorer than their parents and in many cases will have a worse quality of life.
There’s also the feeling that the generation before have pulled the ladder up behind them, hence the ‘Boomer’ term being a common insult.
There’s also quite a lot of data around teenagers in the uk being particularly unhappy compared to other countries which is a worry. |
I'm not sure an entire generation will be poorer, it depends on their choices.
My son is doing vehicle body repair, even as an apprentice in year 2 he's been told he can earn 18.50 per houron 40 hours, that's 38k per year.
Uni isn't the best choice for a lot of kids, some want it too easy, some are just advised poorly. My boy has listened to his careers teacher and chsen a route he's interested in, cars. He's been told he can earn good money. He'll likely be better off than me or his mum.
It's all about choices, good or bad. | | | |
| Are kids better off these days on 17:30 - Aug 17 with 490 views | Whiterockin |
| Are kids better off these days on 17:17 - Aug 17 by SullutaCreturned |
I'm not sure an entire generation will be poorer, it depends on their choices.
My son is doing vehicle body repair, even as an apprentice in year 2 he's been told he can earn 18.50 per houron 40 hours, that's 38k per year.
Uni isn't the best choice for a lot of kids, some want it too easy, some are just advised poorly. My boy has listened to his careers teacher and chsen a route he's interested in, cars. He's been told he can earn good money. He'll likely be better off than me or his mum.
It's all about choices, good or bad. |
It has been sold to a generation that it is beneficial to go to university, it is not for everyone. The pressure that has been put on children by parents to go to university has been immense. They come out with massive debts and often no career. For many the apprenticeship pathway is more suitable, often in careers that can not be replaced by AI. How much is people working in education are pushing education for job security and not to benifit the younger generation. | | | |
| Are kids better off these days on 19:35 - Aug 17 with 416 views | Gwyn737 |
| Are kids better off these days on 17:30 - Aug 17 by Whiterockin |
It has been sold to a generation that it is beneficial to go to university, it is not for everyone. The pressure that has been put on children by parents to go to university has been immense. They come out with massive debts and often no career. For many the apprenticeship pathway is more suitable, often in careers that can not be replaced by AI. How much is people working in education are pushing education for job security and not to benifit the younger generation. |
It’s more the system than the individuals in it. If school staff didn’t prioritise academic attainment they wouldn’t last long.
Successive governments for the last 20 years have prioritised a ‘world class education system’ completely based on test results (we have some of the most tested kids on the planet) taking no account of cultural differences - copying Singapore being a classic example, much to the detriment of vocational routes.
I think if we’d just take the feet of school’s throats just a little, vocational routes would flourish and children would be happier. | | | |
| Are kids better off these days on 19:49 - Aug 17 with 394 views | Whiterockin |
| Are kids better off these days on 19:35 - Aug 17 by Gwyn737 |
It’s more the system than the individuals in it. If school staff didn’t prioritise academic attainment they wouldn’t last long.
Successive governments for the last 20 years have prioritised a ‘world class education system’ completely based on test results (we have some of the most tested kids on the planet) taking no account of cultural differences - copying Singapore being a classic example, much to the detriment of vocational routes.
I think if we’d just take the feet of school’s throats just a little, vocational routes would flourish and children would be happier. |
That's fair, it shouldn't just be education for education sake. It should be about all children striving to reach their full potential and that may well be through a vocational qualification possibly work based. | | | |
| Are kids better off these days on 19:02 - Aug 18 with 242 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are kids better off these days on 19:49 - Aug 17 by Whiterockin |
That's fair, it shouldn't just be education for education sake. It should be about all children striving to reach their full potential and that may well be through a vocational qualification possibly work based. |
That's exacty what my son is doing, a vocational course in an area that is understaffed. He should always be ok for work.
University is definitely a bad choice for a lot of kids. When Blair spouted "education, education, education" it shouldn't have been all about getting to Uni, it should have been about appropriate courses that would be beneficial to the individual AND the country.
We need more apprenticeships, more vocational courses, we need things that give kids a decent shot at a decent future.
It's not just the education system that needs a rethink, parents need to think too. | | | |
| Are kids better off these days on 02:12 - Aug 19 with 198 views | Robbie |
I failed all my O levels at Grammar School dismally , Headmaster was not pleased , it looked bad on the pass rate , sorry to sour your Schools great reputation Sir .
Many other outlets were availabe for work experience then , follow your father into a career or I know somebody high up to get you in .
I got lucky and and as a GCSE falure did and still do survive workwise .
Now Youngsters looking for work will probably go through an AI generated Bot system to give an online tick box pass assessment .
Not good enough sorry . try the next online Recrutiment Agency . | | | |
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