| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham 20:15 - Aug 11 with 2335 views | sw02sea |
Tottenham are reportedly among the clubs monitoring Swansea City academy duo Harlan Perry and Brogan Popham.
Any info on these 2 lads ? |  | | |  |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 20:26 - Aug 11 with 1923 views | jack_lord |
I expect that the club will be even more focussed on getting the top academy status back |  |
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| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 20:40 - Aug 11 with 1890 views | Whiterockin |
They don't have professional contacts it will be virtually impossible to keep them if they have a good offer. As I said on the other thread. |  | | |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 20:42 - Aug 11 with 1883 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
It is a good thing that four Premier League academies want Swansea players. It is up to the club to sell them the vision of them being better off here rather than one if fifty other hopeful in a bigger club. |  |
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| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 16:34 - Aug 12 with 1499 views | KeithHaynes |
Signing two so they keep each other company ?
Been done before. |  |
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| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 16:46 - Aug 12 with 1470 views | Whiterockin |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 16:34 - Aug 12 by KeithHaynes |
Signing two so they keep each other company ?
Been done before. |
I wonder if the lack of progression through to first team football by their peers is a determining factor, plus the money that is available. I know it has been discussed by some of the academy players, there seems to be a glass ceiling where they get in and around the squad but go no further. We really need Cat 1. | | | |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 18:22 - Aug 12 with 1376 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 16:46 - Aug 12 by Whiterockin |
I wonder if the lack of progression through to first team football by their peers is a determining factor, plus the money that is available. I know it has been discussed by some of the academy players, there seems to be a glass ceiling where they get in and around the squad but go no further. We really need Cat 1. |
Cat 1 is where the Snoopy and Modric money should go | |
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| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 20:02 - Aug 12 with 1314 views | jack_lord |
Is investment in the Academy outside of the FFP rules | |
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| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 20:09 - Aug 12 with 1302 views | Whiterockin |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 20:02 - Aug 12 by jack_lord |
Is investment in the Academy outside of the FFP rules |
Basically yes. There are allowances for academies, women's football and structures amongst other things. It's a no brainer to invest in the academy. | | | |
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| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 23:02 - Aug 12 with 1222 views | jackrmee |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 20:09 - Aug 12 by Whiterockin |
Basically yes. There are allowances for academies, women's football and structures amongst other things. It's a no brainer to invest in the academy. |
Where’s Jasper these days to tell us why Cat 1 isn’t the golden goose?
I always felt bad about downgrading, but I seem to remember being talked around in the end that there wasn’t a great deal of difference between Cat 1 & 2? |  |
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| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 08:39 - Aug 13 with 1095 views | Whiterockin |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 23:02 - Aug 12 by jackrmee |
Where’s Jasper these days to tell us why Cat 1 isn’t the golden goose?
I always felt bad about downgrading, but I seem to remember being talked around in the end that there wasn’t a great deal of difference between Cat 1 & 2? |
Jasper is always the man for the youngsters, sorely missed. I hope he reads this and posts again. | | | |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 10:09 - Aug 13 with 1012 views | Gaz_M |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 16:46 - Aug 12 by Whiterockin |
I wonder if the lack of progression through to first team football by their peers is a determining factor, plus the money that is available. I know it has been discussed by some of the academy players, there seems to be a glass ceiling where they get in and around the squad but go no further. We really need Cat 1. |
Those who are good enough, have been involved. Year after year.
There is an idea we're bad at bringing through youngsters. But look at those who've been released and you'll be hard pressed to name more than 1 or 2 who'd have maybe made it here. | | | |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 10:24 - Aug 13 with 987 views | KeithHaynes |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 10:09 - Aug 13 by Gaz_M |
Those who are good enough, have been involved. Year after year.
There is an idea we're bad at bringing through youngsters. But look at those who've been released and you'll be hard pressed to name more than 1 or 2 who'd have maybe made it here. |
Can’t understand why Kyrell Wilson hasn’t had a shot especially in games like last night. | |
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| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 10:30 - Aug 13 with 975 views | Gaz_M |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 10:24 - Aug 13 by KeithHaynes |
Can’t understand why Kyrell Wilson hasn’t had a shot especially in games like last night. |
Physically and tactically some way off. | | | |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 12:38 - Aug 13 with 897 views | KeithHaynes |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 10:30 - Aug 13 by Gaz_M |
Physically and tactically some way off. |
Only one way to find out mate. | |
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| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 12:45 - Aug 13 with 864 views | Whiterockin |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 10:30 - Aug 13 by Gaz_M |
Physically and tactically some way off. |
He has to be an upgrade on Vipotnik who is like playing with 10 men. | | | |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 13:49 - Aug 13 with 764 views | sw02sea |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 12:45 - Aug 13 by Whiterockin |
He has to be an upgrade on Vipotnik who is like playing with 10 men. |
Totally agree about Sputnik, he’s absolutely useless. Wales did more in 29 minutes than that plank did in 60 odd.
Scored a goal, did some nice layoffs, through balls, won some headers.
What a waste of £2m Vipotnik has been. | | | |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 15:03 - Aug 13 with 716 views | RichardO |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 13:49 - Aug 13 by sw02sea |
Totally agree about Sputnik, he’s absolutely useless. Wales did more in 29 minutes than that plank did in 60 odd.
Scored a goal, did some nice layoffs, through balls, won some headers.
What a waste of £2m Vipotnik has been. |
Think30 minutes would the least Wales would be expecting given what he and us have seen up top preseason and the first league game and the league Cup game. Will need time to adjust the the championship but on tonight's showing the sooner he is full up to speed the better but we cannot just rely on the one striker.
As for the other end of the pitch thought Sam Parker did OK and Kaelan Casey played seemingly within himself so things look a better I defence although I am worried about the issue that Cabango has, one good thing Arther Parker also getting back on the pitch under Sheehan instead of being thrown under the bus as some other managers have done. | | | |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 15:05 - Aug 13 with 711 views | Gaz_M |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 15:03 - Aug 13 by RichardO |
Think30 minutes would the least Wales would be expecting given what he and us have seen up top preseason and the first league game and the league Cup game. Will need time to adjust the the championship but on tonight's showing the sooner he is full up to speed the better but we cannot just rely on the one striker.
As for the other end of the pitch thought Sam Parker did OK and Kaelan Casey played seemingly within himself so things look a better I defence although I am worried about the issue that Cabango has, one good thing Arther Parker also getting back on the pitch under Sheehan instead of being thrown under the bus as some other managers have done. |
Casey looked outstanding like. | | | |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 16:10 - Aug 13 with 647 views | RichardO |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 15:05 - Aug 13 by Gaz_M |
Casey looked outstanding like. |
Didn't take chances when under pressure and with a bouncing ball up field clearance was his preferred option, when he had time he sometimes brought it down under his control, looked as if he could have brought it down more but brave enough to clear instead of brave enough to take risks as some managers bang on about, taking risks should be left to when we are further park trying to get back into games provided we have sufficient players with pace to cover, not when we are in control of games, good incisive pass helped by good movement helps reduces the risks.
Competent performance by him to relieve some of the worries about weaknesses in the back line and strength in depth. | | | |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 16:17 - Aug 13 with 638 views | hobo |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 13:49 - Aug 13 by sw02sea |
Totally agree about Sputnik, he’s absolutely useless. Wales did more in 29 minutes than that plank did in 60 odd.
Scored a goal, did some nice layoffs, through balls, won some headers.
What a waste of £2m Vipotnik has been. |
Vip was a free transfer |  | | |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 20:09 - Aug 13 with 495 views | Whiterockin |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 16:46 - Aug 12 by Whiterockin |
I wonder if the lack of progression through to first team football by their peers is a determining factor, plus the money that is available. I know it has been discussed by some of the academy players, there seems to be a glass ceiling where they get in and around the squad but go no further. We really need Cat 1. |
Montague at the fans forum tonight.
Montague addresses alleged interest from Spurs and Watford in two of their academy products.
"They can sign professional contracts when they come of age.
"The timing of those deals is very important. But the fact is that as a Cat 2 academy that clubs can look at your players and poach players. Thast's the reality of the ecosytem of academy football now.
"That will naturally happen. The advantage of moving to Cat 1 is you get more money when players are taken. But we'll always be looking to extract the best value for the club."
We really need Cat 1. | | | |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 22:16 - Aug 13 with 383 views | jackrmee |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 08:39 - Aug 13 by Whiterockin |
Jasper is always the man for the youngsters, sorely missed. I hope he reads this and posts again. |
Yeah, we had our little spats, but he was THE man for the academy stuff 👍 | |
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| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 22:21 - Aug 13 with 358 views | jackrmee |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 16:17 - Aug 13 by hobo |
Vip was a free transfer |
Na I’m pretty sure he was more the 2mil | |
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| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 22:24 - Aug 13 with 350 views | jackrmee |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 20:09 - Aug 13 by Whiterockin |
Montague at the fans forum tonight.
Montague addresses alleged interest from Spurs and Watford in two of their academy products.
"They can sign professional contracts when they come of age.
"The timing of those deals is very important. But the fact is that as a Cat 2 academy that clubs can look at your players and poach players. Thast's the reality of the ecosytem of academy football now.
"That will naturally happen. The advantage of moving to Cat 1 is you get more money when players are taken. But we'll always be looking to extract the best value for the club."
We really need Cat 1. |
Totally agree. I was gutted when we downgraded.
But I remember jasper saying it wasn’t a big deal and was probably not worth the extra outlay.
If Montague is on about it, and Gorringe mentioned about the new investment by Modric and Snoop, going towards certain things…the academy was mentioned first, or at least second. Playing squad was well down the list. Although I’m just going off Phil’s report, not watched the recording yet. | |
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| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 23:37 - Aug 13 with 313 views | ncswan |
| Harlan Perry & Brogan Popham on 22:21 - Aug 13 by jackrmee |
Na I’m pretty sure he was more the 2mil |
As I recall, Vip came in on a free from a team that went into administration, which allowed players to be able to get out of their contracts. From ChatGPT: Free Transfer
Vipotnik became available after his contract with Bordeaux was mutually terminated. This followed Bordeaux’s relegation to the third tier and decision to relinquish their professional status due to financial constraints—leading the club to cancel numerous player contracts.
Worst part is that he signed a 4-yr contract with Swans in the summer window of 2024. | | | |
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