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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets 13:50 - Aug 12 with 3565 viewsAnotherJohn

Said to be about 10 times what Starmer claimed, despite some Treasury jiggery-pokery which uses a bizarre formula whereby future spending is given a lower value than present spending (the "Social. Time Preference Rate").

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/chagos-ten-times-more-expensive-b124230
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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 12:16 - Aug 14 with 1417 viewsGwyn737

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 12:10 - Aug 14 by Boundy

I think you'll find that quite a few Labour led councils do indeed offer this "incentives" and are not isolated incidents . IMO there's no need to try and make this lot look bad ,they're doing a splendid job themselves .


I’m not on about them making Labour look bad, just them stirring up hate.

Do you know which councils over those things as standard?

I’m not trying to justify it, it’s more we need to sort the immigration issue so we need to focus on the important things and make points in good faith.

It’s stories like these that lead the bad actors to turn up at the peaceful protests and cause havoc.
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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 12:48 - Aug 14 with 1391 viewscontroversial_jack

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 12:10 - Aug 14 by Boundy

I think you'll find that quite a few Labour led councils do indeed offer this "incentives" and are not isolated incidents . IMO there's no need to try and make this lot look bad ,they're doing a splendid job themselves .


Reform controlled councils aren't exactly covering themselves in glory. They paralysed a Kent council. And have done similar elsewhere
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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 14:22 - Aug 14 with 1360 viewsBoundy

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 12:48 - Aug 14 by controversial_jack

Reform controlled councils aren't exactly covering themselves in glory. They paralysed a Kent council. And have done similar elsewhere


A council or many what is it to be ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 17:49 - Aug 14 with 1315 viewscontroversial_jack

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 14:22 - Aug 14 by Boundy

A council or many what is it to be ?


Ive mentioned 2 , do you want them to
Mess up more?
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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 19:42 - Aug 14 with 1279 viewsBoundy

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 17:49 - Aug 14 by controversial_jack

Ive mentioned 2 , do you want them to
Mess up more?


No you haven't but crack on .👍

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 22:15 - Aug 14 with 1245 viewscontroversial_jack

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 19:42 - Aug 14 by Boundy

No you haven't but crack on .👍


Worcester
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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 22:22 - Aug 14 with 1247 viewsBoundy

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 22:15 - Aug 14 by controversial_jack

Worcester


Source

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 13:54 - Aug 15 with 1164 viewshowenjack

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 12:48 - Aug 14 by controversial_jack

Reform controlled councils aren't exactly covering themselves in glory. They paralysed a Kent council. And have done similar elsewhere


The biggest catastrophe of a council is labour led .
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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 23:05 - Aug 15 with 1118 viewsReslovenSwan1

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 21:13 - Aug 13 by Flashberryjack

There's hell of a lot of truth in what you say, the UK is the laughing stock of the world, even the migrants that we help are laughing.


They are probably Kurds or Arabs from Iraq. About 20 years ago the British Army alongside US army went to their country and blew up all the civil amenities like oil and gas and water and electricity suppliers over about 4 years.

We then said oops we were wrong there is no Weapon of mass destruction here like the Isrealis told us. Sorry about that. USA and Israel have been destabilising unfriendly state s ever since at the behest of some pretty unpleasant Settlers in you know where.

They gave finally got around to UK who signed up to excessively liberal humans right rules present in Europe which suits USA and Israeli people just fine.

The guys laughing were saying "Why did you wreck my home?". It is clear to me Europe absorbed the Middle easterners and they did not pass on the UK. Then Brexit happened and UK is still signed up to out of date liberal asylum laws.

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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 09:01 - Aug 16 with 1078 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 23:05 - Aug 15 by ReslovenSwan1

They are probably Kurds or Arabs from Iraq. About 20 years ago the British Army alongside US army went to their country and blew up all the civil amenities like oil and gas and water and electricity suppliers over about 4 years.

We then said oops we were wrong there is no Weapon of mass destruction here like the Isrealis told us. Sorry about that. USA and Israel have been destabilising unfriendly state s ever since at the behest of some pretty unpleasant Settlers in you know where.

They gave finally got around to UK who signed up to excessively liberal humans right rules present in Europe which suits USA and Israeli people just fine.

The guys laughing were saying "Why did you wreck my home?". It is clear to me Europe absorbed the Middle easterners and they did not pass on the UK. Then Brexit happened and UK is still signed up to out of date liberal asylum laws.


That argument is an absolute nonsense argument. People generally don’t flee to those regimes and countries who are trying to attack, persecute or destroy them.

We didn’t see millions of Jews desperately trying to break into Nazi germany.

Similarly we didn’t see 13th century women flooding eastwards because they wanted some more of that hot Mongolian action.

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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 14:19 - Aug 16 with 1029 viewsReslovenSwan1

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 09:01 - Aug 16 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

That argument is an absolute nonsense argument. People generally don’t flee to those regimes and countries who are trying to attack, persecute or destroy them.

We didn’t see millions of Jews desperately trying to break into Nazi germany.

Similarly we didn’t see 13th century women flooding eastwards because they wanted some more of that hot Mongolian action.


None of them believes UK people are hostile to them but the British army was for sure. I recall Hillary Benn demanding the RAF joined in the bombing of northern Syria. The people's they bombed are now cutting my hair.

USA Isreal in particular have destabilised several Arab states in sequence. Iran next.. Turkiye took 4m.Millions in Italy Germany and Greece.

UK was kept out of the firing line in EU. Not any more. Farage wanted to create an Anglo Asian economic powerhouse. Welcome to Brexit.


I do not worry too much about Chagos. UK stole Diego Garcia in the first place. International law could have forced us out but we have come to an agreement . The number are larged but shared by others and there is a lot of accounting mumbo jumbo. A quoted simple figure means nothing.

UK has plenty of accountants. We have been ripping off the South for centuries..
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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 15:09 - Aug 16 with 1018 viewsAnotherJohn

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 11:57 - Aug 14 by Gwyn737

The bits about driving lessons, martial arts, mobile phones and football tickets.

There are no direct government provisions for these. There may be isolated incidents where community groups and/or charities may provide these things, but publications like The Mail make it look like government schemes to stir up hate.


There have been some exceptions regarding phones as the Home Office did hand out at least 14,000 handsets to assist with screening interviews around 2021-22.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/23/channel-migrants-asked-just-four-scr

Currently some migrant charities and legal firms provide mobile phones to maintain contact with persons making asylum claims or appeals.

The other discounts/free entitlements mostly come from certain Councils.

The Scottish Government has funded free bus travel for asylum seekers and the Welsh Government funds some discretionary help with accommodation etc.
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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 18:56 - Oct 8 with 469 viewsAnotherJohn

Here is the latest development in the wake of that awful Chagos deal that Contro and others said was good news for the UK.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/starmer-s-chagos-deal-out-of-control-as-co
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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 20:27 - Oct 8 with 431 viewsmax936

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 18:56 - Oct 8 by AnotherJohn

Here is the latest development in the wake of that awful Chagos deal that Contro and others said was good news for the UK.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/starmer-s-chagos-deal-out-of-control-as-co


Its the Daily Express mind, they got more far fetched stories than Jackanory.

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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 20:43 - Oct 8 with 419 viewsAnotherJohn

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 20:27 - Oct 8 by max936

Its the Daily Express mind, they got more far fetched stories than Jackanory.


Is the Standard any better? I don't think the arrivals are something out of Jackanory.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/council-breaking-point-latest-surge-153730049.html
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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 21:59 - Oct 8 with 396 viewsDemitrius

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 20:43 - Oct 8 by AnotherJohn

Is the Standard any better? I don't think the arrivals are something out of Jackanory.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/council-breaking-point-latest-surge-153730049.html


I have formed the opinion that AG Hermer and Starmer are currently two huge clear and present dangers to Britain navigating its way out of bankruptcy and a bail out from the IMF...

They are doing the devil's work to ruin us. They have to be following a prescribed agenda because this is national fiscal suicide.

Meanwhile you and me are paying for them to carry these policies out via increased taxation and pension fund raids..

Reminds me very much of the end of the Weimar Republic,. a hollow "democracy without democrats", crippling reparations costs and a population that feels utterly betrayed by successive lying backstabbing politicians...

Enter Nigel the saviour....

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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 23:27 - Oct 8 with 360 viewsmax936

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 20:43 - Oct 8 by AnotherJohn

Is the Standard any better? I don't think the arrivals are something out of Jackanory.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/council-breaking-point-latest-surge-153730049.html


I don't know I don't read any of them, but I see plenty of pure nonsense posted online from the Daily express none of it turns out to be true., it is true that the People of Chagos wanted to remain British but were let down by this clown of a Prime Minister, so I expect that they feel entitled to come to Britain after their Island has been given away.

The main point I was making was regarding the Daily Express has a "Newspaper"
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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 12:02 - Oct 9 with 307 viewsonehunglow

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 21:59 - Oct 8 by Demitrius

I have formed the opinion that AG Hermer and Starmer are currently two huge clear and present dangers to Britain navigating its way out of bankruptcy and a bail out from the IMF...

They are doing the devil's work to ruin us. They have to be following a prescribed agenda because this is national fiscal suicide.

Meanwhile you and me are paying for them to carry these policies out via increased taxation and pension fund raids..

Reminds me very much of the end of the Weimar Republic,. a hollow "democracy without democrats", crippling reparations costs and a population that feels utterly betrayed by successive lying backstabbing politicians...

Enter Nigel the saviour....


You do realise Wales is solid Labour
Or is it?

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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 13:27 - Oct 15 with 195 viewshowenjack

Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 21:40 - Aug 13 by controversial_jack

There's only one snag with this, it's untrue


just a couple of recent examples ....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15194363/Cash-strapped-council-71000-as



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14953633/Lib-Dem-council-offers-asylum-
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Cost of Chagos Islands deal rockets on 15:19 - Oct 15 with 142 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

In Wales immigration is not a devolved issue. Therefore every penny that the Senedd spends on asylum seekers is out of the budget designed for the general population.

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