| Swansea has its first Reform councillor 18:53 - Aug 18 with 5020 views | raynor94 |
Francesca O'Brien who represents Mumbles has joined the party
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| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 10:59 - Aug 23 with 1310 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 10:39 - Aug 23 by Boundy |
So by that one sweeping statement your accusing all Reform present ,present councillors,MPs and their supporters as being homophobic,racist , why not include child molesters to complete the set . I could say and I have personal experience of this that all social workers are a stain on society, but I won't because I'm more intelligent than that . |
Social workers and how they screw the system to benefit themselves and bump up expenses could be a thread in itself. But we had better not. |  | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 15:21 - Aug 23 with 1205 views | Scotia |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 10:39 - Aug 23 by Boundy |
So by that one sweeping statement your accusing all Reform present ,present councillors,MPs and their supporters as being homophobic,racist , why not include child molesters to complete the set . I could say and I have personal experience of this that all social workers are a stain on society, but I won't because I'm more intelligent than that . |
No, but a lot are.
You just did because you aren't. |  | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 18:03 - Aug 23 with 1174 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 23:06 - Aug 18 by Luther27 |
You have seen Starmer acting like a poodle with Trump haven’t you? |
Yes but I'm not a Labour voter. Sop tell me, why is the answer to having a Trump poodle in No10 to put a very well trained Trump poodle in No10?
If you're not happy with Staermer would you be happier with Trumps best mate?
it just seems strange to me that people have had enough of politicians BS and now they say they are going to vote for even more BS from the king of BS who will be the poodle of the Emperor of BS, Agent Orange. | | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 19:22 - Aug 23 with 1150 views | Scotia |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 10:59 - Aug 23 by Whiterockin |
Social workers and how they screw the system to benefit themselves and bump up expenses could be a thread in itself. But we had better not. |
Crack on. | | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 19:25 - Aug 23 with 1141 views | Scotia |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 17:57 - Aug 22 by SullutaCreturned |
The national debt and deficit
Immigration
Failing public services including the armed forces.
The cost of living crisis
That's to start with. |
I honestly don't think any of those are the fault of Blair/ Brown. | | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 22:58 - Aug 23 with 1080 views | majorraglan |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 17:57 - Aug 22 by SullutaCreturned |
The national debt and deficit
Immigration
Failing public services including the armed forces.
The cost of living crisis
That's to start with. |
The U.K. national debt as a proportion of GDP was actually lower under Blair /Brown than it was under previous John Major regime and it remained that way until 2008/09 when we had the financial crash arising from the US subprime mortgage banking collapse.
Public sector net debt initially declined in the early Blair Brown years, but then it increased steadily and had risen by £180bn to £530bn by 2007/08 (last financial year before banking collapse) BUT as a percentage of our GDP the debt was lower than it was in 1997 because our economy had grown significantly and some would argue it was at a manageable level. In terms of borrowing and GDP, it all went wrong after the financial collapse when Brown had to borrow heavily to “save the banks.”
From 2010 onwards, debt as a proportion of GDP has steadily increased from 70.9% in 2010/11 to 95.6% in 2023/24.
The”National Debt” was £902bn (2010/11) and it increased steadily over the following 10 years to £1.82tn in 2019/20, by 2023/24 it was up to £2.69tn. Covid was a major factor for the Conservatives as was the banking collapse for Labour.
In terms of immigration, Major signed the Maastricht Treaty which opened the door to “Freedom of Movement” - Blair inherited this. While he (Blair) would not have been able to stop large scale immigration, he could have delayed it by introducing transitionary restrictions on movement in to the country. I think most agree Blair got that wrong. In terms of immigration and specifically the numbers, between 1997 and 2009 approximately 6,700,000 immigrants arrived at an average rate approximately 510,000 per year, between 2010 and 2023 approximately 10,600,000 immigrants moved to the U.K. which equates to an average of almost 760,000 per year.
Since 1997 the U.K. has seen total immigration of around 17,300,000 people. The net increase in population is 10,910,000. Under Labour, the population increased by almost 4,500,000 and averaged an increase of 342,000 per year. Under the Conservatives the population increased by almost 6,500,000 at an average of almost 500,000 per year.
In terms of the stats they are difficult to collate and apportion especially when a GE takes place mid year, but applying a consistent approach for fairness we can work out ball park figures.
I’d also say public services are a lot worse post 2010 than they were in the Blair years.
The cost of living crisis is I’d say more an issue of the Conservatives than Labour, but Covid and the Ukraine wars are major factors. I don’t think either party has got to grip with the fact we have been and are continuing to be ripped off - particularly by utility providers.
The bottom line is I believe most of our governments have come up short and there’s been a lot of gaslighting particularly around immigration.
Edit - typos. [Post edited 24 Aug 0:40]
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| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 12:41 - Aug 25 with 905 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 23:09 - Aug 21 by Scotia |
What fundamental issues? |
The biggest current issues as I see them.
1. Immigration. Clearly the biggest topic at present.
In December 1997 net migration to the UK was 48000. The very next year it was 140,000, and hasn't dropped below 150,000 since. Subsequent Governments, including the laughingly labelled "Far Right" Tory Goverments of Cameron, Johnson, May and Sunak have continued this policy. Of course, a lot of this was also kicked off by Blair's meddling in the Middle East.
For 20+ years anyone raising concerns about the volume of migration and lack of integration have been smeared as racists. Some are, most aren't. They get labelled the same anyway by a docile media. This worked to quell protests for a long time. It's stopped working now.
2. The skills problem.
Due to the rush to have 50% of school leavers achieving a degree, trades training was at best ignored, at worst belittled, with those doing apprenticeships somehow seen as "lesser" than graduates. Jobs previously covered entirely adequately by vocational training such as Nursing now require a degree. Student debt has rocketed, the number of people on Universal Credit with a degree in excess of 500,000. Meanwhile, the average age of a construction worker in the UK is over 50.
We're heading for major, major problems. Going to Uni should be a rarity for specialised professions. Everything else can be covered by vocational training or apprenticeships.
3. The politicisation of the Judiciary and Civil Service.
"The Blob" as Dominic Cummings referred to them. Civil Servants and Judges have been installed to act according to their political beliefs as opposed to doing the job that they're there to do, making the task of Governing that much harder for anyone trying to enact different policies, reform anything like Welfare, Planning or other key matters of state, and has entrenched problems #1, #2 & #4.
"Achieving a Socialist state through gradual, systemic change" has been a long standing policy of the Left and associated groups such as the Fabian Society. 200 members of the Fabians sat in the Commons following Blair's victory in 1997.
4. Waste in Government spending.
You probably have to see some of this to believe it. They also successfully created an environment where efficiency is a dirty word and the only answer to problems in services was to keep throwing money (or to use their terms "investing") in them, and even a tiny reduction in the increase of spending, not even cuts, was deemed to be "Austerity".
Annual spending on the NHS is expected to rise to £245Bn by 2029. That's roughly equivalent to the GDP of Finland. It has more employees than the Indian Railways. This is not an organisation that is in any way underfunded.
About the only thing that I will give them credit for, and this was more Brown than Blair, was keeping us out of the Euro. [Post edited 25 Aug 12:43]
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| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 13:41 - Aug 25 with 869 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 22:58 - Aug 23 by majorraglan |
The U.K. national debt as a proportion of GDP was actually lower under Blair /Brown than it was under previous John Major regime and it remained that way until 2008/09 when we had the financial crash arising from the US subprime mortgage banking collapse.
Public sector net debt initially declined in the early Blair Brown years, but then it increased steadily and had risen by £180bn to £530bn by 2007/08 (last financial year before banking collapse) BUT as a percentage of our GDP the debt was lower than it was in 1997 because our economy had grown significantly and some would argue it was at a manageable level. In terms of borrowing and GDP, it all went wrong after the financial collapse when Brown had to borrow heavily to “save the banks.”
From 2010 onwards, debt as a proportion of GDP has steadily increased from 70.9% in 2010/11 to 95.6% in 2023/24.
The”National Debt” was £902bn (2010/11) and it increased steadily over the following 10 years to £1.82tn in 2019/20, by 2023/24 it was up to £2.69tn. Covid was a major factor for the Conservatives as was the banking collapse for Labour.
In terms of immigration, Major signed the Maastricht Treaty which opened the door to “Freedom of Movement” - Blair inherited this. While he (Blair) would not have been able to stop large scale immigration, he could have delayed it by introducing transitionary restrictions on movement in to the country. I think most agree Blair got that wrong. In terms of immigration and specifically the numbers, between 1997 and 2009 approximately 6,700,000 immigrants arrived at an average rate approximately 510,000 per year, between 2010 and 2023 approximately 10,600,000 immigrants moved to the U.K. which equates to an average of almost 760,000 per year.
Since 1997 the U.K. has seen total immigration of around 17,300,000 people. The net increase in population is 10,910,000. Under Labour, the population increased by almost 4,500,000 and averaged an increase of 342,000 per year. Under the Conservatives the population increased by almost 6,500,000 at an average of almost 500,000 per year.
In terms of the stats they are difficult to collate and apportion especially when a GE takes place mid year, but applying a consistent approach for fairness we can work out ball park figures.
I’d also say public services are a lot worse post 2010 than they were in the Blair years.
The cost of living crisis is I’d say more an issue of the Conservatives than Labour, but Covid and the Ukraine wars are major factors. I don’t think either party has got to grip with the fact we have been and are continuing to be ripped off - particularly by utility providers.
The bottom line is I believe most of our governments have come up short and there’s been a lot of gaslighting particularly around immigration.
Edit - typos. [Post edited 24 Aug 0:40]
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Ok, the problem there is that some of the bad stuff was caused by the so called good stuff. I googled and this is from the net/AI
Yes, both Gordon Brown and Tony Blair presided over a significant increase in the UK's deficit and national debt, particularly in the later years of their time in office, despite beginning with a fiscally conservative stance. After initially improving public finances through spending cuts and tax increases, the government's position weakened as public spending grew rapidly while tax revenues fell, leading to a deterioration of the public finances and a deficit that was considered unsustainable by the time the 2008 financial crisis hit.
Initial fiscal conservatism
In their first term, Gordon Brown, as Chancellor, pursued a more conservative fiscal policy, including cutting spending and increasing revenues, which resulted in an improvement in the public finances.
The 1997 Budget, for example, included a five-year plan to reduce the budget deficit and was seen as fiscally responsible by the business community.
Shift towards increased spending
As the government's second term began, a "massive expansion in public spending" aimed at improving public services occurred, though it was argued that this spending was not sufficiently financed by taxation.
The economic boom of the time created large tax revenues, which were then spent on public services, but this also led to a weakening of the fiscal position.
Pre-crisis deficit and debt accumulation
By the mid-2000s, a significant gap had opened between spending and tax revenues, resulting in a structural deficit, which was not aligned with the "mend the roof while the sun is shining" principle of reducing debt during economic growth, according to the BBC.
The UK deficit rose to 2.7% of GDP in 2007-8, and the national debt subsequently doubled from approximately 40% to 80% of GDP.
In 2010, Tony Blair himself admitted that the government should have taken a tougher fiscal position and addressed the deficit earlier, particularly in 2005.
Long-term consequences
The accumulated deficits and deterioration in public finances before the 2008 financial crisis created a substantial weakening of the UK's fiscal position, a problem that would take years to reverse.
On top of that (my opinion now) Balir and Brown also robbed pension schemes of billions, they bankrupted the Royal Mail scheme which was subsequently rescued by the Cameron government, Browns niggest mistake?
https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/brown-ignored-insurers-warning-on-pension-gr
What they did in the early years was a short leap to a hinancial cataclysmic decision on pension funds, a massive increase in the deficit which has caused the ever rising debt. As long as we are in deficit the debt has to rise.
It hasn't helped that we have had a string of totally useless governments since. [Post edited 25 Aug 19:55]
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| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 13:46 - Aug 25 with 861 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 19:25 - Aug 23 by Scotia |
I honestly don't think any of those are the fault of Blair/ Brown. |
You askee what fundamental issues are we facing. Whoever is to blame those are definitely issues.
Besides, a lot of todays financial problems stem from Blair and Brown. browns decision to axe tax relief put poension funds out of business and again, Royal Mails needed to be rescued by Cameron.
Once they had massively increased the deficit, the debt had to rise until the dr=eficit was cut and we still have a deficit because governments since have been useless. | | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 14:14 - Aug 25 with 834 views | Dr_Winston |
Pensions! Forgot about that. | |
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| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 14:26 - Aug 25 with 828 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Didn’t they sell off all the gold on the cheap whilst it was at record low prices? Great economist is Brown. |  |
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| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 19:58 - Aug 25 with 734 views | Dr_Winston |
During the early years of Blair and Brown they carefully followed the economic policies of Ken Clarke, perhaps the last competent Chancellor. | |
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| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 20:33 - Aug 25 with 707 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 19:58 - Aug 25 by Dr_Winston |
During the early years of Blair and Brown they carefully followed the economic policies of Ken Clarke, perhaps the last competent Chancellor. |
He could teach Reeves a thing or two that's for sure. | | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 21:34 - Aug 25 with 679 views | majorraglan |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 14:14 - Aug 25 by Dr_Winston |
Pensions! Forgot about that. |
I think Brown made a massive mistake removing the tax credit from pensions. Putting things in to context, at the time the stock market had been booming and numerous companies had taken pension holidays on account of the “surpluses” in the pension funds.
As a result many employers and schemes have pulled up the drawbridge on their pension schemes leaving many people facing an impoverished retirement and it’s highly likely taxpayers will pick up the bill in the future with increased levels of state benefits.
Brown is responsible, but none of the subsequent governments saw fit to reverse his move and they’ve all continued to trouser the tax dividend. Classic short termism being put before the long term good. | | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 21:53 - Aug 25 with 669 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 21:34 - Aug 25 by majorraglan |
I think Brown made a massive mistake removing the tax credit from pensions. Putting things in to context, at the time the stock market had been booming and numerous companies had taken pension holidays on account of the “surpluses” in the pension funds.
As a result many employers and schemes have pulled up the drawbridge on their pension schemes leaving many people facing an impoverished retirement and it’s highly likely taxpayers will pick up the bill in the future with increased levels of state benefits.
Brown is responsible, but none of the subsequent governments saw fit to reverse his move and they’ve all continued to trouser the tax dividend. Classic short termism being put before the long term good. |
Pensions in general are going to be a massive issue. It's one of the areas where privatisation might be a force for good.
£30,000 invested into a private pension pot at the birth of every child would result in a considerable annual income over 40 years and be a shedload cheaper to the Exchequer than the State Pension. Once the initial investment is made the Govt have to get out of the Goddamn way though.
You're absolutely spot on that every Govt since has just continued with Brown's policies, which leads back to the initial suggestion that most of our problems have their roots in New Labour. | |
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| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 22:43 - Aug 25 with 633 views | onehunglow |
Problem is young people see pensions as something in the far far distant future and are utterly unattractive
It makes them think of old people and then you’re young they are on another planet
We do not have a culture whereby we are willing to fully contribute to our old age finances
Many will say they don’t have enough to put money away , some domyvwsntvyo spend what they have and worry about any future when they’re old , like 40 /50
We have to change our mindset completely
Every government I can think of has shat all over older folk especially Labour as they want young people to vote for them as Tories are by and large seen as posh xxxxxx and all that entails | |
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| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 22:30 - Aug 26 with 306 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 22:43 - Aug 25 by onehunglow |
Problem is young people see pensions as something in the far far distant future and are utterly unattractive
It makes them think of old people and then you’re young they are on another planet
We do not have a culture whereby we are willing to fully contribute to our old age finances
Many will say they don’t have enough to put money away , some domyvwsntvyo spend what they have and worry about any future when they’re old , like 40 /50
We have to change our mindset completely
Every government I can think of has shat all over older folk especially Labour as they want young people to vote for them as Tories are by and large seen as posh xxxxxx and all that entails |
I gave my son some advice on this, after asking him when he wanted to retire. When he said by 50 I told him that to even dream of that he'd need to have a pension, a pension besides his wirk pension and that he needed to start paying in what he could afford the moment he started getting paid. The hope is his college course leads to an apprenticeship next September and he could easily be earning 19 quid per hour so over 38k per year or 2.5k per momth, I told him he should be putting 300 per month into his own pension.
He seemed to be listening. We'll see. | | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 01:29 - Aug 27 with 261 views | Robbie |
Farage will never be PM or Reform any part of Party Politics of course .
But his posturing and tirades will or should give the useless Starmer a size 9 to his rear end .
Do something mush , you said you would in your manifesto promises .
Welsh Assembly Election next May , 36 weeks to decide who is best for Wales too .
The answer is a foregone conclusion already though , the monkey with the red rossette . | | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 06:01 - Aug 27 with 228 views | Demitrius |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 01:29 - Aug 27 by Robbie |
Farage will never be PM or Reform any part of Party Politics of course .
But his posturing and tirades will or should give the useless Starmer a size 9 to his rear end .
Do something mush , you said you would in your manifesto promises .
Welsh Assembly Election next May , 36 weeks to decide who is best for Wales too .
The answer is a foregone conclusion already though , the monkey with the red rossette . |
Farage, like him or loathe him and barring an untimely end, will almost certainly be the next PM.
Reform are 20 points ahead in the polls - Your average Joe has had enough of the Uniparty shambles and I can't see that clueless smug berk Starmer lasting until 2029.
This is not an endorsement by the way so don't shoot the messenger but I can't see anything else but a Reform landslide if we haven't had major civil unrest by then and a Martial Law/National Government crisis.
Then again, I am not in Wales. I am in the South of England and believe me when I say the cult of Nigel is huge around these parts, people are already talking of when not if he's PM. I understand the phenomenon is more pronounced in the Midlands and The North,
The anger among the erstwhile chattering classes on Immigration, crime and the economy is off the scale. People that used to describe themselves as moderates and liberals have become openly right-wing as they see everything they worked hard for and held faith in turning to shite and chaos at their expense. |  | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 07:21 - Aug 27 with 177 views | Dr_Winston |
It is quite surprising how quickly the discourse has shifted.
Perhaps even as little as twelve months ago anyone suggesting that people arriving in boats should be automatically returned to their country of origin would be howled down and smeared as racist. Now it's policy for most parties as they all (the serious ones anyway) scramble to react to mounting public opinion, and opinion is shifting further rightward on the issue almost daily.
Swansea hasn't been particularly affected by the migrant crisis. We've had some but not a vast amount. Nor does it suffer on the same scale from the cultural issues faced in areas like Luton, Bradford, and the other old Northern industrial towns and cities. It's probably easy down here to underestimate the levels of rage elsewhere. | |
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| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 07:40 - Aug 27 with 154 views | Demitrius |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 07:21 - Aug 27 by Dr_Winston |
It is quite surprising how quickly the discourse has shifted.
Perhaps even as little as twelve months ago anyone suggesting that people arriving in boats should be automatically returned to their country of origin would be howled down and smeared as racist. Now it's policy for most parties as they all (the serious ones anyway) scramble to react to mounting public opinion, and opinion is shifting further rightward on the issue almost daily.
Swansea hasn't been particularly affected by the migrant crisis. We've had some but not a vast amount. Nor does it suffer on the same scale from the cultural issues faced in areas like Luton, Bradford, and the other old Northern industrial towns and cities. It's probably easy down here to underestimate the levels of rage elsewhere. |
You are correct in that assumption.
I come home say, every 3-6 months and there are small changes in Swansea/Cardiff/Valleys , more barber-vape shops, more groups of men just hanging around, but it's of minimal impact for now, but it won't be like that forever if the trend continues. It soon becomes an all consuming wave as has been seen elsewhere This isn't racism it is fact. Cultural displacement in a narrow timeframe leading to justifiable anger.
The politicians that have wilfully turned a blind eye to this are treasonous criminals that need prosecuting but they hide behind the cowl of public office. It stinks and it's making us all the angry, belligerent bastards that we don't want to be but what choice do we have ? | | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 09:51 - Aug 27 with 103 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 07:21 - Aug 27 by Dr_Winston |
It is quite surprising how quickly the discourse has shifted.
Perhaps even as little as twelve months ago anyone suggesting that people arriving in boats should be automatically returned to their country of origin would be howled down and smeared as racist. Now it's policy for most parties as they all (the serious ones anyway) scramble to react to mounting public opinion, and opinion is shifting further rightward on the issue almost daily.
Swansea hasn't been particularly affected by the migrant crisis. We've had some but not a vast amount. Nor does it suffer on the same scale from the cultural issues faced in areas like Luton, Bradford, and the other old Northern industrial towns and cities. It's probably easy down here to underestimate the levels of rage elsewhere. |
The towns you mention have had their social structure changed completely within a generation
I had a dear chi born bred a proud Bradfordian who was hard as nails but broke down when talk of his city came up on any conversation
Same with Blackburn and Burnley and any northern former mill town
It’s a fact that people do not and would not say they really feel in public
This is where we are now
Denying the truth
Swansea hasn’t been as badly affected
Last night we were in Cambs/Huntingdon and in StIves there were four “ Turkish “ barbers all empty but finely furnished
People are worried | |
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| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 10:31 - Aug 27 with 82 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 07:21 - Aug 27 by Dr_Winston |
It is quite surprising how quickly the discourse has shifted.
Perhaps even as little as twelve months ago anyone suggesting that people arriving in boats should be automatically returned to their country of origin would be howled down and smeared as racist. Now it's policy for most parties as they all (the serious ones anyway) scramble to react to mounting public opinion, and opinion is shifting further rightward on the issue almost daily.
Swansea hasn't been particularly affected by the migrant crisis. We've had some but not a vast amount. Nor does it suffer on the same scale from the cultural issues faced in areas like Luton, Bradford, and the other old Northern industrial towns and cities. It's probably easy down here to underestimate the levels of rage elsewhere. |
If you've spent any amount of time in Bradford (and I did, albeit 25 years back) you would know the problems. I doubt it's improved since then but back then there were large areas of Bradford that were considered off limits to whites after dark. I was told even the police don't go there unless it's mob handed. White people would drive through the area but not stop apart from at lights and keeping their windows up and doors locked.
Obviously it was white locals who told me this. Where I was staying back then was Wibsey, the Halifax side of Bradford. Halifax was a lovely town.
Thing is, I agree we need to cut down immigration, I agree we need to get these immigrants who are criminals out of our country and start looking after British people more and immigrants less. I'm not against genuine refugees obviously but we let too many scumbags in. There are thousands of Albanians have come here and the Albanian crime gangs have grown steadily with their immigration. | | | |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 10:33 - Aug 27 with 79 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea has its first Reform councillor on 10:31 - Aug 27 by SullutaCreturned |
If you've spent any amount of time in Bradford (and I did, albeit 25 years back) you would know the problems. I doubt it's improved since then but back then there were large areas of Bradford that were considered off limits to whites after dark. I was told even the police don't go there unless it's mob handed. White people would drive through the area but not stop apart from at lights and keeping their windows up and doors locked.
Obviously it was white locals who told me this. Where I was staying back then was Wibsey, the Halifax side of Bradford. Halifax was a lovely town.
Thing is, I agree we need to cut down immigration, I agree we need to get these immigrants who are criminals out of our country and start looking after British people more and immigrants less. I'm not against genuine refugees obviously but we let too many scumbags in. There are thousands of Albanians have come here and the Albanian crime gangs have grown steadily with their immigration. |
You ever go to The Shay
Memorable speedway track graced by the nutcase that was Kenny Carter | |
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