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The Gaza end game 17:15 - Aug 20 with 1720 viewsSullutaCreturned

Most people would have been hoping Israel would see sense, would shrug off the clothes of the genocidal but instead they have doubled down and are mobilising 60,000 reservists to help with their "iccupation" of Gaza city, to help with the forced resettlement of it's residents.

it's all just a bit too "Nazi" for me. The Israeli's had already gone way too far but this next step, surely all Israels allies will tell them straight now, stop it or you're on your own?

Well all of them apart from Trump obviously because he's barking too.

I read with disbelief, his statement that "Russia may not want an end to the war" which is something that has been obvious for a fair while now. Putin wants what he wants and he'll keep going until he gets it. It includes a new government in Kyiv that is pro Russki and not pro NATO as well as all the territory he claims is Russian.

Wake up Trump.
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The Gaza end game on 18:18 - Aug 20 with 1046 viewsshingle

I fell asleep after the first sentence, sorry about that.
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The Gaza end game on 18:19 - Aug 20 with 1044 viewsSullutaCreturned

The Gaza end game on 18:18 - Aug 20 by shingle

I fell asleep after the first sentence, sorry about that.


Maybe you'd have been better off just ignoring it then.
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The Gaza end game on 18:27 - Aug 20 with 1036 viewsswan_si

"Gone way too far" when do you think they should have stopped?
Why don't hamas release the hostages and lay down their arms?
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The Gaza end game on 18:30 - Aug 20 with 1031 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

The Gaza end game on 18:27 - Aug 20 by swan_si

"Gone way too far" when do you think they should have stopped?
Why don't hamas release the hostages and lay down their arms?


Hamas are still firing rockets into Israel, if there were firing rockets into Swansea I'd want someone to sort it out.

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The Gaza end game on 18:40 - Aug 20 with 1015 viewsFlashberryjack

The Gaza end game on 18:30 - Aug 20 by JACKMANANDBOY

Hamas are still firing rockets into Israel, if there were firing rockets into Swansea I'd want someone to sort it out.


Ah! but all the rockets Hamas fire only kill the Israeli military, whilst all the rockets fired by Israel only kill women and childre, strange that.

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The Gaza end game on 18:50 - Aug 20 with 997 viewsswan_si

The Gaza end game on 18:40 - Aug 20 by Flashberryjack

Ah! but all the rockets Hamas fire only kill the Israeli military, whilst all the rockets fired by Israel only kill women and childre, strange that.


Why would Hamas target women and children. They seem like such nice people.
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The Gaza end game on 18:51 - Aug 20 with 975 viewsonehunglow

The Gaza end game on 18:18 - Aug 20 by shingle

I fell asleep after the first sentence, sorry about that.


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The Gaza end game on 19:01 - Aug 20 with 963 viewsbuilthjack

The Gaza end game on 18:30 - Aug 20 by JACKMANANDBOY

Hamas are still firing rockets into Israel, if there were firing rockets into Swansea I'd want someone to sort it out.


They won’t reach.

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The Gaza end game on 19:12 - Aug 20 with 946 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

The Gaza end game on 19:01 - Aug 20 by builthjack

They won’t reach.


🙂

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The Gaza end game on 20:02 - Aug 20 with 906 viewsSullutaCreturned

The Gaza end game on 18:27 - Aug 20 by swan_si

"Gone way too far" when do you think they should have stopped?
Why don't hamas release the hostages and lay down their arms?


I think maybe they should have stopped before they prevented aid from reaching civilians. How about not targetting aid posts killing aid workers.Since October 2023 more than 500 aid workers, including staff from organisations the IRC partners with on the ground in Gaza, have been killed, alongside at least 1,500 health workers. It's claimed at least 70 aid workers were killed in the first six months of this year alone.
https://www.rescue.org/uk/press-release/palestinians-make-almost-one-fifth-aid-w

I have read that Hamas is broken, split into small cells trying to run their own areas. Why are they displacing one million people?
It's also been said that Hamas has agreed to a deal but Israel isn't stopping,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgjye15zdlo
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The Gaza end game on 22:16 - Aug 20 with 852 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

The Gaza end game on 18:27 - Aug 20 by swan_si

"Gone way too far" when do you think they should have stopped?
Why don't hamas release the hostages and lay down their arms?


This is the problem. Any ceasefire or peace deal that leaves Hamas in power will only lead to them regrouping, rebuilding and plotting more atrocities against Israel and also to their ‘own’ people. Israel have determined correctly that the only way to solve the problem in the long run is the utter obliteration of Hamas.

And it can’t come a day too soon.

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The Gaza end game on 10:09 - Aug 21 with 747 viewsswan_si

The Gaza end game on 20:02 - Aug 20 by SullutaCreturned

I think maybe they should have stopped before they prevented aid from reaching civilians. How about not targetting aid posts killing aid workers.Since October 2023 more than 500 aid workers, including staff from organisations the IRC partners with on the ground in Gaza, have been killed, alongside at least 1,500 health workers. It's claimed at least 70 aid workers were killed in the first six months of this year alone.
https://www.rescue.org/uk/press-release/palestinians-make-almost-one-fifth-aid-w

I have read that Hamas is broken, split into small cells trying to run their own areas. Why are they displacing one million people?
It's also been said that Hamas has agreed to a deal but Israel isn't stopping,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgjye15zdlo


All these figures of the dead and injured wouldn't have happened if Hamas hadn't attacked Israel murdering and raping innocent women and children. Recording what they had done and making them available to the people of Palestine to see and celebrate. Celebrate the beheading of young men and soldiers, the rape of women and children and the assassination of children in front of their parents. So all this falls at the feet of Hamas and it's supporters.
As for stoping aid. The Hamas terrorists look well fed 🤔
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The Gaza end game on 11:59 - Aug 21 with 679 viewsonehunglow

The Gaza end game on 10:09 - Aug 21 by swan_si

All these figures of the dead and injured wouldn't have happened if Hamas hadn't attacked Israel murdering and raping innocent women and children. Recording what they had done and making them available to the people of Palestine to see and celebrate. Celebrate the beheading of young men and soldiers, the rape of women and children and the assassination of children in front of their parents. So all this falls at the feet of Hamas and it's supporters.
As for stoping aid. The Hamas terrorists look well fed 🤔


Absolutely bang on
Although I think Israel could be more subtler , Hamas is the bad boy here
Israel also hadn’t slaughtered others in foreign lands in the name of Allah
Palestine support is the modern day equivalent of anti apartheid supporters
Those demos were great fun , let’s face it

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The Gaza end game on 18:39 - Aug 21 with 571 viewsshingle

The Gaza end game on 18:19 - Aug 20 by SullutaCreturned

Maybe you'd have been better off just ignoring it then.


Obviously.
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The Gaza end game on 18:47 - Aug 21 with 559 viewscontroversial_jack

The Gaza end game on 11:59 - Aug 21 by onehunglow

Absolutely bang on
Although I think Israel could be more subtler , Hamas is the bad boy here
Israel also hadn’t slaughtered others in foreign lands in the name of Allah
Palestine support is the modern day equivalent of anti apartheid supporters
Those demos were great fun , let’s face it


Isreal has slaughtered ppl in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and others.
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The Gaza end game on 18:50 - Aug 21 with 550 viewsshingle

The Gaza end game on 18:27 - Aug 20 by swan_si

"Gone way too far" when do you think they should have stopped?
Why don't hamas release the hostages and lay down their arms?


Down arrowed by mistake and to answer your question they are terrorist scum and will carry out the same atrocities once Israel let them off the hook, and as for the Palestinian people there is a reason why every surronding country have no interest in helping them or taking them in, just watching the way they behaved when the innocent murdered Isralie teenaged girls were strung up naked in front of them just shows what type of people they are disgusting is to good a word for them.
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The Gaza end game on 18:51 - Aug 21 with 549 viewsSullutaCreturned

The Gaza end game on 10:09 - Aug 21 by swan_si

All these figures of the dead and injured wouldn't have happened if Hamas hadn't attacked Israel murdering and raping innocent women and children. Recording what they had done and making them available to the people of Palestine to see and celebrate. Celebrate the beheading of young men and soldiers, the rape of women and children and the assassination of children in front of their parents. So all this falls at the feet of Hamas and it's supporters.
As for stoping aid. The Hamas terrorists look well fed 🤔


So two wrongs make a right in your book then?

I agree Hamas needs taking down but I cannot justify mass murder and murder of innocent people as a way to achieve that. Israel has gone way too far. 55000 Palestinians killed so far.

The people of Gaza need to kick Hamas out.

I guess that's the big problem here, the Muslim community are brainwashed into supporting Hamas and/or are too scared to stand up to them. Somebody has to see sense there because even the surrounding Arabic countries are not stopping Israel with this, those countries need to communicate with the Gazans and persuade them to reject Hamas.
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The Gaza end game on 19:00 - Aug 21 with 525 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

The Gaza end game on 18:51 - Aug 21 by SullutaCreturned

So two wrongs make a right in your book then?

I agree Hamas needs taking down but I cannot justify mass murder and murder of innocent people as a way to achieve that. Israel has gone way too far. 55000 Palestinians killed so far.

The people of Gaza need to kick Hamas out.

I guess that's the big problem here, the Muslim community are brainwashed into supporting Hamas and/or are too scared to stand up to them. Somebody has to see sense there because even the surrounding Arabic countries are not stopping Israel with this, those countries need to communicate with the Gazans and persuade them to reject Hamas.


22 nations of the Arab League have all told Hamas that they want them out of Gaza. Egypt and Jordan keep their borders closed. Its seemingly impossible to deal with extremists who are hell bent on their ideology and martyrdom. People using western values as a basis for a solution do not understand what Hamas are about.

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The Gaza end game on 19:16 - Aug 21 with 511 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

The Gaza end game on 18:51 - Aug 21 by SullutaCreturned

So two wrongs make a right in your book then?

I agree Hamas needs taking down but I cannot justify mass murder and murder of innocent people as a way to achieve that. Israel has gone way too far. 55000 Palestinians killed so far.

The people of Gaza need to kick Hamas out.

I guess that's the big problem here, the Muslim community are brainwashed into supporting Hamas and/or are too scared to stand up to them. Somebody has to see sense there because even the surrounding Arabic countries are not stopping Israel with this, those countries need to communicate with the Gazans and persuade them to reject Hamas.


The people of Gaza won’t kick Hamas out because the people of Gaza overwhelmingly support them. Recent poll suggested that well over two thirds of Palestinians supported the attack on October 7th and would like to see it happen again. Over half still believe they will win this war.

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The Gaza end game on 19:16 - Aug 21 with 511 viewsSullutaCreturned

The Gaza end game on 19:00 - Aug 21 by JACKMANANDBOY

22 nations of the Arab League have all told Hamas that they want them out of Gaza. Egypt and Jordan keep their borders closed. Its seemingly impossible to deal with extremists who are hell bent on their ideology and martyrdom. People using western values as a basis for a solution do not understand what Hamas are about.


Which is why I said the surrounding Arabic states need to poersuade the people of Gaza to reject Hamas.

The big problem there is, it's too late now. Israel is pressing on and a humanitarian disaster is already well under way.

Hamas are murderers and now so are Israel. People justifying that are worrying.
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The Gaza end game on 19:31 - Aug 21 with 504 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

The Gaza end game on 19:16 - Aug 21 by SullutaCreturned

Which is why I said the surrounding Arabic states need to poersuade the people of Gaza to reject Hamas.

The big problem there is, it's too late now. Israel is pressing on and a humanitarian disaster is already well under way.

Hamas are murderers and now so are Israel. People justifying that are worrying.


People who have opposed Hamas in the past have been thrown off buildings and hung in the street. Everyone with any compassion would want to see a ceasefire, but how do you solve the Hamas problem?

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The Gaza end game on 19:38 - Aug 21 with 487 viewsswan_si

The Gaza end game on 18:51 - Aug 21 by SullutaCreturned

So two wrongs make a right in your book then?

I agree Hamas needs taking down but I cannot justify mass murder and murder of innocent people as a way to achieve that. Israel has gone way too far. 55000 Palestinians killed so far.

The people of Gaza need to kick Hamas out.

I guess that's the big problem here, the Muslim community are brainwashed into supporting Hamas and/or are too scared to stand up to them. Somebody has to see sense there because even the surrounding Arabic countries are not stopping Israel with this, those countries need to communicate with the Gazans and persuade them to reject Hamas.


It makes me wonder why the surrounding Arabic countries are not allowing Palestinians to cross their borders.
The people of gaza cannot stand up to a terrorist organisation that are willing to sacrifice their own people.
One of the biggest problems I can see is that leaders of certain countries are putting pressure on the wrong side. They make Hamas look like the good guy. Which in turn gives Hamas the idea that they can dictate terms of a ceasefire. Hamas started this and I hope for the people of Palestine that the hostages are released and hamas lay down their arms very soon.
I notice the BBC use figures at the end of every report on the war to accuse Israel of genocide.
"The Israeli military launched a campaign in Gaza in response to the Hamas-led attack on southern Israel on 7 October 2023, in which about 1,200 people were killed and 251 others were taken hostage.

At least 62,122 people have been killed in Gaza since then, according to the territory's health ministry. The ministry's figures are quoted by the UN and others as the most reliable source of statistics available on casualties."

62,122 killed in gaza
1,200 killed in Israel
That's what they like to show at the end of every report on gaza.
I look at it as in 1 day 1,200 Israelis were slaughter.
In roughly 682 days 62,122 Palestinians died.
No. 2 wrongs don't make a right but until hamas release the hostages and lay down their arms, in my eyes the blame will always be with them.
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The Gaza end game on 21:14 - Aug 21 with 420 viewsDr_Winston

The Gaza end game on 18:51 - Aug 21 by SullutaCreturned

So two wrongs make a right in your book then?

I agree Hamas needs taking down but I cannot justify mass murder and murder of innocent people as a way to achieve that. Israel has gone way too far. 55000 Palestinians killed so far.

The people of Gaza need to kick Hamas out.

I guess that's the big problem here, the Muslim community are brainwashed into supporting Hamas and/or are too scared to stand up to them. Somebody has to see sense there because even the surrounding Arabic countries are not stopping Israel with this, those countries need to communicate with the Gazans and persuade them to reject Hamas.


At least 350,000 German civilians died in WW2, including women and children. Probably many more. Israel is fighting against an existential threat, just as the Allies were.

It seems to me that the major issue is that Hamas has spent years burrowing into every facet of Gazan society, hiding its troops and its resources in civilian areas, banking on Israel not wanting to upset International opinion by risking the casualties involved in striking at them.

07/10/23 changed all that. Israel doesn't give a shit about International opinion any more. It just wants Hamas wiped out at all costs.

And the reason why other States in the region haven't allowed Palestinian refugees in is because things invariably turn to shit when they do. Just look at the Lebanon.
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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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The Gaza end game on 22:26 - Aug 21 with 371 viewsGwyn737

The Gaza end game on 19:16 - Aug 21 by SullutaCreturned

Which is why I said the surrounding Arabic states need to poersuade the people of Gaza to reject Hamas.

The big problem there is, it's too late now. Israel is pressing on and a humanitarian disaster is already well under way.

Hamas are murderers and now so are Israel. People justifying that are worrying.


This is, for me, the best post on the subject.

I don’t see how anyone can possibly take a side in this.
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The Gaza end game on 01:36 - Aug 22 with 321 viewsRobbie

Whats left of the Israeli hostages being used as a pawn in this War is not good .

Surely let them go as a first step to negotiations and a land pact deal .

Hamas say no , collateral damage for us and our own innocent occupants , no deal .

Looks like Benny is ready to go in all guns blazing and flatten Gaza for good now .

Strong leadership or a land grabber , the jury is out .
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