| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 00:33 - Aug 23 with 2603 views | FredManRave |
First and foremost, a great preview, shock, horror!
I watched that BBC interview and basically I found it depressing. Mainly because it was the first time I had actually heard him speak, in detail, and basically because it was utterly uninspiring. His interview post the cup loss against Plymouth was also a massive red flag for me.
And, let's be honest, you couldn't have left out the, "we played for 45 minutes, and hopefully we can play for 60 in the next" quote because that is a shocking indictment of where we are and reflects on our identity and expectations that we now settle for at this club.
There's saying along the lines of, you don't know how good something was until you no longer have it. Typical Rangers that, most of us knew how good Marti was until we sent him on gardening leave. And then we get this guy in.
Caveat, I obviously want Julien to do well and for us to win games and play entertaining football in most games, for anything up to and including 90 minutes.
However, I can't help but feeling like if Julien Stephan was a small, leafy, boring town in France, that there would be a sign, just as you enter the town saying, Julien Stephan twinned with Neil Critchley*.
*Obviously, that's assuming there's a small boring, town in the UK called Neil Critchley, but you get my point. [Post edited 23 Aug 0:36]
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| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 04:03 - Aug 23 with 2419 views | rbee |
Julien Stephan certainly hasn't got Marti's charisma but that really shouldn't matter when it comes to winning football matches. We really have to support him and give him time to succeed. He drinks Kronenbourg etc
I really hope that later today he starts with a strongest possible team and gives it a go. Bringing on the likes of Kone when we are chasing the game seems a bit bonkers to me. |  | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 07:35 - Aug 23 with 2102 views | Rsole |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 00:33 - Aug 23 by FredManRave |
First and foremost, a great preview, shock, horror!
I watched that BBC interview and basically I found it depressing. Mainly because it was the first time I had actually heard him speak, in detail, and basically because it was utterly uninspiring. His interview post the cup loss against Plymouth was also a massive red flag for me.
And, let's be honest, you couldn't have left out the, "we played for 45 minutes, and hopefully we can play for 60 in the next" quote because that is a shocking indictment of where we are and reflects on our identity and expectations that we now settle for at this club.
There's saying along the lines of, you don't know how good something was until you no longer have it. Typical Rangers that, most of us knew how good Marti was until we sent him on gardening leave. And then we get this guy in.
Caveat, I obviously want Julien to do well and for us to win games and play entertaining football in most games, for anything up to and including 90 minutes.
However, I can't help but feeling like if Julien Stephan was a small, leafy, boring town in France, that there would be a sign, just as you enter the town saying, Julien Stephan twinned with Neil Critchley*.
*Obviously, that's assuming there's a small boring, town in the UK called Neil Critchley, but you get my point. [Post edited 23 Aug 0:36]
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Twinned with Neil Crinkly Bottom.
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| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 07:58 - Aug 23 with 2024 views | joe90 |
Great review, thanks!
I’m finding the ‘the project’ and all this development club business thoroughly uninspiring and agree that the club could be doing a more to ‘bring us along’.
It’s not all doom and gloom, I was impressed with the new boys on the opening day and can see the potential. Love the look of Esquerdinha and that we’ve signed a player from Fluminense - reminds of what you said about pivoting from Ainsworth to signing an Ajax youth prospect - which we’ve kind of done here. I like what the club are trying to do with players like Andersen/Madsen and now Esquerdinha, but they need to admit when it hasn’t worked ie: Madsen.
This team can’t afford to carry any players and when we start with Madsen we’re starting with 10 men and a massive hole in the middle. He needs replacing and we don’t need to be fobbed off with a ‘feel good’ signing in Saito. Love the guy - I’ve got the shirt to prove it - but he’s not needed this season.
I’m getting a good vibe from JS, a better one than I got from Marti, but the fundamental issues remain, only time will tell of the club adequately address them. [Post edited 23 Aug 8:12]
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| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 08:34 - Aug 23 with 1856 views | Hugey |
Great preview, and I feel for Stephan. He has a very tough job to follow our most popular manager in recent times. He could do with a win soon... (Obviously!)
I couldn't tell where the quote from the forum poster ended. Was it you that couldn't face going today or the poster? |  | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 08:37 - Aug 23 with 1830 views | StrawberryHillR |
In part, that reaction at Vicarage Road might have been a bit of PTSD from those who there two years previously. I stomped off home in a huff at half time that day, and at 0-2 after 23 minutes I was having 'Nam-style flashbacks - helicopters, explosions, Joe Gubbins... |  | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 08:45 - Aug 23 with 1770 views | zizoustainrod |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 00:33 - Aug 23 by FredManRave |
First and foremost, a great preview, shock, horror!
I watched that BBC interview and basically I found it depressing. Mainly because it was the first time I had actually heard him speak, in detail, and basically because it was utterly uninspiring. His interview post the cup loss against Plymouth was also a massive red flag for me.
And, let's be honest, you couldn't have left out the, "we played for 45 minutes, and hopefully we can play for 60 in the next" quote because that is a shocking indictment of where we are and reflects on our identity and expectations that we now settle for at this club.
There's saying along the lines of, you don't know how good something was until you no longer have it. Typical Rangers that, most of us knew how good Marti was until we sent him on gardening leave. And then we get this guy in.
Caveat, I obviously want Julien to do well and for us to win games and play entertaining football in most games, for anything up to and including 90 minutes.
However, I can't help but feeling like if Julien Stephan was a small, leafy, boring town in France, that there would be a sign, just as you enter the town saying, Julien Stephan twinned with Neil Critchley*.
*Obviously, that's assuming there's a small boring, town in the UK called Neil Critchley, but you get my point. [Post edited 23 Aug 0:36]
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Like my politicians, I don't actually care whether the manager is boring so long as they can do the job well that they have been employed to do.
I am just nervous that we are not going to see how good M. Stephan is due to influences beyond the dressing room. | | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 08:52 - Aug 23 with 1735 views | loneranger1 |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 07:58 - Aug 23 by joe90 |
Great review, thanks!
I’m finding the ‘the project’ and all this development club business thoroughly uninspiring and agree that the club could be doing a more to ‘bring us along’.
It’s not all doom and gloom, I was impressed with the new boys on the opening day and can see the potential. Love the look of Esquerdinha and that we’ve signed a player from Fluminense - reminds of what you said about pivoting from Ainsworth to signing an Ajax youth prospect - which we’ve kind of done here. I like what the club are trying to do with players like Andersen/Madsen and now Esquerdinha, but they need to admit when it hasn’t worked ie: Madsen.
This team can’t afford to carry any players and when we start with Madsen we’re starting with 10 men and a massive hole in the middle. He needs replacing and we don’t need to be fobbed off with a ‘feel good’ signing in Saito. Love the guy - I’ve got the shirt to prove it - but he’s not needed this season.
I’m getting a good vibe from JS, a better one than I got from Marti, but the fundamental issues remain, only time will tell of the club adequately address them. [Post edited 23 Aug 8:12]
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Yep, great prereview thanks Clive - and great post, Joe.
Unfortuanately, this 'project' blx looks like it's here to stay as it's what every new signing seems to say when they join any new club nowadays!
In our context, were just going to have to be a bit more patient to see whether this 'project' leads us anywhere positive, but understatement alert, the jury is definitely out at the moment.
And nail, head with Madsen - you can't afford passengers in any team in any league, but definitely not a physical lightweight who doesn't run much in the centre of your midfield! | | | |
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| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 09:08 - Aug 23 with 1650 views | Burnleyhoop |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 00:33 - Aug 23 by FredManRave |
First and foremost, a great preview, shock, horror!
I watched that BBC interview and basically I found it depressing. Mainly because it was the first time I had actually heard him speak, in detail, and basically because it was utterly uninspiring. His interview post the cup loss against Plymouth was also a massive red flag for me.
And, let's be honest, you couldn't have left out the, "we played for 45 minutes, and hopefully we can play for 60 in the next" quote because that is a shocking indictment of where we are and reflects on our identity and expectations that we now settle for at this club.
There's saying along the lines of, you don't know how good something was until you no longer have it. Typical Rangers that, most of us knew how good Marti was until we sent him on gardening leave. And then we get this guy in.
Caveat, I obviously want Julien to do well and for us to win games and play entertaining football in most games, for anything up to and including 90 minutes.
However, I can't help but feeling like if Julien Stephan was a small, leafy, boring town in France, that there would be a sign, just as you enter the town saying, Julien Stephan twinned with Neil Critchley*.
*Obviously, that's assuming there's a small boring, town in the UK called Neil Critchley, but you get my point. [Post edited 23 Aug 0:36]
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Your comments reflect Clive’s point to a tee, for me at least
Whilst some see the quite clear progress we are making with the building of a “potentially “ more competitive team through better player acquisitions than last year, others have still got the hump because of the Marti saga and as such have taken an immediate dislike to ST.
I, like most, do not like what I have seen so far, but do intend to bite down on the gum shield because I feel confident it will improve, possibly significantly, when all the pieces fall into place.
As far as the “selling club” approach goes, if the likes of Palace, Bournemouth, Brentford or any other club outside of the big 6 have to suffer it to survive and then thrive, then that is the approach we need to take. After the last ten years, we need to move forward as one more step back leads to league one. The Eze money could be our last opportunity to make a step in the right direction, but many more will need to be taken if we are to see a return to any sort of meaningful success. | | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 09:09 - Aug 23 with 1636 views | Philothesuperhoop |
Great preview Clive, thanks. You are spot on with your analysis of the feeling in the support base at the moment. I’m one of them.
My lad and I have recently done Coventry away and we aren’t going today…there is just no point as we are going to lose 3-1…and we’ll be lucky to get one.
My main point of this post however, is that other than the players there is nobody above them that I like or even slightly warm to. Therefore I’m just constantly irritated by them all.
Nourry has done some great things, and is so right in his thoughts and long term plans…but he is a highly unpleasant, conceited, arrogant, overly executive, corporate ‘leader’. His press release about Steve Cook’s contract extension was a disgrace. If I was his boss he’d be in a disciplinary over that!
The other two at the fans forum were so cock sure and condescending.
The manager doesn’t say anything of any interest at all. I’ve listened to various interviews with him and I just zone out. His team for the league cup was truly shocking. The club should have refunded everyone who went.
Every team or organisation needs a leader to inspire and follow. For all of the plans being correct and some of the recruitment being pretty good, I fear for the next few months because of everything listed above.
I just don’t like the people…so my usual optimist support is severely dented.
On Open All Rs I once got the moniker’Phil the Optimist’ - it’s interesting that even with some good recruitment I feel the least optimistic than I have for ages. |  | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 09:10 - Aug 23 with 1629 views | zizoustainrod |
Northerner, you have this amazing knack of capturing how I feel about the Rs at any particular time.
I was hugely disappointed with the approach to the Plymouth game. I would have been apoplectic if I had traveled and paid money to attend that game as a fan. Seemed like a big F**k You to the fans for no real gains on the pitch. I struggle to believe that any professional sports coach would put out a team selection like that off their own back. I despair, if JS alone thought that was a good idea.
As for the current injuries/ lack of fitness - it might be acceptable (to a degree) for the local Sunday league football team to be in that state. However, it is just plain embarrassing and bordering on incompetence for a professional sports club to be so unprepared at the start of a new season.
To me, it looks like JS is being dictated to. I look forward to seeing evidence to the contrary.
Positively, the signings of Mbengue, Poku, Burrell, and Kone look to have real potential. Also retaining Dunne is a real boost. | | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 10:16 - Aug 23 with 1311 views | Burnleyhoop |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 09:10 - Aug 23 by zizoustainrod |
Northerner, you have this amazing knack of capturing how I feel about the Rs at any particular time.
I was hugely disappointed with the approach to the Plymouth game. I would have been apoplectic if I had traveled and paid money to attend that game as a fan. Seemed like a big F**k You to the fans for no real gains on the pitch. I struggle to believe that any professional sports coach would put out a team selection like that off their own back. I despair, if JS alone thought that was a good idea.
As for the current injuries/ lack of fitness - it might be acceptable (to a degree) for the local Sunday league football team to be in that state. However, it is just plain embarrassing and bordering on incompetence for a professional sports club to be so unprepared at the start of a new season.
To me, it looks like JS is being dictated to. I look forward to seeing evidence to the contrary.
Positively, the signings of Mbengue, Poku, Burrell, and Kone look to have real potential. Also retaining Dunne is a real boost. |
So you’re not going to matches because of your dislike or disdain of the management structure, despite them, appearing at least, to be far more competent than anything else that came before….and the team currently being assembled looks, potentially, much better than anything we have had since the Warnock days?
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least that, with a few wins and good performances on the board, all this anger and angst will subside and supporters will get back on board.
Let’s hope so, but we’re not there yet and are unlikely to be until the end of September. I hang my hat on potential and hope. Fragile, but better than believing we are doomed like many other clubs in this league. Try being a Sheffield Wednesday fan! | | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 10:23 - Aug 23 with 1273 views | EastR |
The manager is being far to passive in his assessment of our ability to compete, let alone win, a game.
We are only one or two players back/in from having the balance of a team able to hold their own, but equally we're only one or two key players out from being less than mediocre. | |
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| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 10:30 - Aug 23 with 1245 views | nadera78 |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 09:08 - Aug 23 by Burnleyhoop |
Your comments reflect Clive’s point to a tee, for me at least
Whilst some see the quite clear progress we are making with the building of a “potentially “ more competitive team through better player acquisitions than last year, others have still got the hump because of the Marti saga and as such have taken an immediate dislike to ST.
I, like most, do not like what I have seen so far, but do intend to bite down on the gum shield because I feel confident it will improve, possibly significantly, when all the pieces fall into place.
As far as the “selling club” approach goes, if the likes of Palace, Bournemouth, Brentford or any other club outside of the big 6 have to suffer it to survive and then thrive, then that is the approach we need to take. After the last ten years, we need to move forward as one more step back leads to league one. The Eze money could be our last opportunity to make a step in the right direction, but many more will need to be taken if we are to see a return to any sort of meaningful success. |
On your last point, those clubs sell players whilst also winning football matches - heck, one of them just won a trophy for the first time in their entire history. That makes the developing and selling of players aspect a whole lot more palatable. We, by contrast, rarely if ever win matches which, of course, dramatically alters the atmosphere - and that's before we get to the divisive nature of the people running the club.
I'd also throw in the differing expectations around those clubs, Palace are similar to ourselves in lots of ways, but the other two, frankly, are small clubs who hadn't achieved anything of note for at least 50 years. So when they embarked on their own 'projects' they both had a very small fanbase that expected nothing and were used to not even getting that. We, on the other hand, have a majority of fans who remember having outstanding players and exciting teams. I'd suggest no-one in our fanbase thinks we should be lower than a top 10 Championship club. It's a very different starting point and something the club really doesn't seem to have taken into account, in fact QPR seem to have given no consideration whatsoever to bringing the fans with them on this journey. | | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 10:59 - Aug 23 with 1146 views | Burnleyhoop |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 10:30 - Aug 23 by nadera78 |
On your last point, those clubs sell players whilst also winning football matches - heck, one of them just won a trophy for the first time in their entire history. That makes the developing and selling of players aspect a whole lot more palatable. We, by contrast, rarely if ever win matches which, of course, dramatically alters the atmosphere - and that's before we get to the divisive nature of the people running the club.
I'd also throw in the differing expectations around those clubs, Palace are similar to ourselves in lots of ways, but the other two, frankly, are small clubs who hadn't achieved anything of note for at least 50 years. So when they embarked on their own 'projects' they both had a very small fanbase that expected nothing and were used to not even getting that. We, on the other hand, have a majority of fans who remember having outstanding players and exciting teams. I'd suggest no-one in our fanbase thinks we should be lower than a top 10 Championship club. It's a very different starting point and something the club really doesn't seem to have taken into account, in fact QPR seem to have given no consideration whatsoever to bringing the fans with them on this journey. |
If success does come, the fans will no doubt follow.
I’ve supported QPR for more than 50 years, but no club has a right to believe they should reside in the top league unless they have earned the right to be there. The size of our club now dictates our destiny unless we manage it in such a way that we can punch above our weight. The club has been mismanaged to such a degree, even when we had significant money to spend, that we are now struggling to keep our heads above water.
QPR are at a crossroads, we either make progress through strong management and a robust strategic plan or we sink without trace.
The recruitment this summer and SOME of last gives us hope we are tentatively moving in the right direction and yet some fans would rather wallow in past glories and expectations of where they believe we deserve or expect to be. | | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 11:06 - Aug 23 with 1119 views | nadera78 |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 10:59 - Aug 23 by Burnleyhoop |
If success does come, the fans will no doubt follow.
I’ve supported QPR for more than 50 years, but no club has a right to believe they should reside in the top league unless they have earned the right to be there. The size of our club now dictates our destiny unless we manage it in such a way that we can punch above our weight. The club has been mismanaged to such a degree, even when we had significant money to spend, that we are now struggling to keep our heads above water.
QPR are at a crossroads, we either make progress through strong management and a robust strategic plan or we sink without trace.
The recruitment this summer and SOME of last gives us hope we are tentatively moving in the right direction and yet some fans would rather wallow in past glories and expectations of where they believe we deserve or expect to be. |
Great speech, but you ignored every point I'd made.
It also reflects IMO the club's rather disdainful view of fans. | | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 11:15 - Aug 23 with 1073 views | loftus77 |
Bang on, Clive, as ever. Thanks very much for putting this heartfelt, accurate, piece together.
Slightly tongue-in-cheek, but we've undoubtedly got wealthy owners - right? So, to align everyone with the intent of this project - serious sustained development short-term then jam tomorrow - why not reduce ticket prices for all registered QPR fans for the next , say, 2 to 3 seasons? A flat charge of £10 for all adults, £5 for OAPs over 65 and under-18s? This reduction reflects that we are in a 2-year development phase where pure results and meaningfully competing for trophies are not the be-all-and-end-all.
Once this development phase starts to bear fruit (obvs...), we immediately revert to 2027/28 prices as normal. As said, our owners have got deep pockets and our CEO rightly wants everyone aligned and with the project/programme, so our pricing reflects this. Sorted.
As an irrelevant aside, 4-1 to Cov today. [Post edited 23 Aug 11:17]
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| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 11:48 - Aug 23 with 961 views | derbyhoop |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 10:59 - Aug 23 by Burnleyhoop |
If success does come, the fans will no doubt follow.
I’ve supported QPR for more than 50 years, but no club has a right to believe they should reside in the top league unless they have earned the right to be there. The size of our club now dictates our destiny unless we manage it in such a way that we can punch above our weight. The club has been mismanaged to such a degree, even when we had significant money to spend, that we are now struggling to keep our heads above water.
QPR are at a crossroads, we either make progress through strong management and a robust strategic plan or we sink without trace.
The recruitment this summer and SOME of last gives us hope we are tentatively moving in the right direction and yet some fans would rather wallow in past glories and expectations of where they believe we deserve or expect to be. |
Nail, head.
Our finances will be the main factor dictating success or failure. LR is 1 of the smallest grounds in the Championship. And our ability to generate off field revenue is far from easy.
So, we need to trade our way up the pyramid. However, we have to carry on winning games while we develop saleable assets. The more we are successful on the field, the greater likelihood that we can generate another Eze type sale. |  |
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| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 11:56 - Aug 23 with 934 views | Burnleyhoop |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 11:06 - Aug 23 by nadera78 |
Great speech, but you ignored every point I'd made.
It also reflects IMO the club's rather disdainful view of fans. |
What do fans want more than a good team out on the pitch….is that not what the club is trying to do, reasonably successfully IMO, despite massive financial limitations?
Barring the strange Plymouth decision, just how is the club treating fans with disdain? | | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 11:58 - Aug 23 with 923 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Is there a risk we end up being a bit like Middlesborough. They always sell a player for big money yet they never seem to improve.
Is that down to them never signing players to build a squad, rather just sign a player based on his on sale value?
Looking at the signings this year there does appear to be a little more squad building, coupled with DS, but the worry is we end up like Boro.
Forever to play in purgatory called The Championship. | |
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| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 12:28 - Aug 23 with 795 views | zizoustainrod |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 10:16 - Aug 23 by Burnleyhoop |
So you’re not going to matches because of your dislike or disdain of the management structure, despite them, appearing at least, to be far more competent than anything else that came before….and the team currently being assembled looks, potentially, much better than anything we have had since the Warnock days?
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least that, with a few wins and good performances on the board, all this anger and angst will subside and supporters will get back on board.
Let’s hope so, but we’re not there yet and are unlikely to be until the end of September. I hang my hat on potential and hope. Fragile, but better than believing we are doomed like many other clubs in this league. Try being a Sheffield Wednesday fan! |
So you’re not going to matches because of your dislike or disdain of the management structure
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| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 12:31 - Aug 23 with 777 views | Ghost_on_the_Westway |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 00:33 - Aug 23 by FredManRave |
First and foremost, a great preview, shock, horror!
I watched that BBC interview and basically I found it depressing. Mainly because it was the first time I had actually heard him speak, in detail, and basically because it was utterly uninspiring. His interview post the cup loss against Plymouth was also a massive red flag for me.
And, let's be honest, you couldn't have left out the, "we played for 45 minutes, and hopefully we can play for 60 in the next" quote because that is a shocking indictment of where we are and reflects on our identity and expectations that we now settle for at this club.
There's saying along the lines of, you don't know how good something was until you no longer have it. Typical Rangers that, most of us knew how good Marti was until we sent him on gardening leave. And then we get this guy in.
Caveat, I obviously want Julien to do well and for us to win games and play entertaining football in most games, for anything up to and including 90 minutes.
However, I can't help but feeling like if Julien Stephan was a small, leafy, boring town in France, that there would be a sign, just as you enter the town saying, Julien Stephan twinned with Neil Critchley*.
*Obviously, that's assuming there's a small boring, town in the UK called Neil Critchley, but you get my point. [Post edited 23 Aug 0:36]
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😂Your last sentence.
Immediately brought to mind “That’s me talking to myself. It’s not me lying in bed with another bloke called David”. |  |
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| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 13:18 - Aug 23 with 624 views | Dono77 |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 12:31 - Aug 23 by Ghost_on_the_Westway |
😂Your last sentence.
Immediately brought to mind “That’s me talking to myself. It’s not me lying in bed with another bloke called David”. |
Any recommendations for pubs before the match? | | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 13:21 - Aug 23 with 613 views | mart_Goblin |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 11:58 - Aug 23 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Is there a risk we end up being a bit like Middlesborough. They always sell a player for big money yet they never seem to improve.
Is that down to them never signing players to build a squad, rather just sign a player based on his on sale value?
Looking at the signings this year there does appear to be a little more squad building, coupled with DS, but the worry is we end up like Boro.
Forever to play in purgatory called The Championship. |
Yeah that ‘in and around the play offs / top half of the table ‘ nonsense must be horrendous. |  | | |
| And if this world runs out of lovers – Preview on 16:36 - Aug 23 with 253 views | nadera78 |
Hey, Burnleyhoop, just wondering if you still think we've put together a "competitive squad" and that we're "moving in the right direction"? | | | |
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