| 26 November - date of next Budget 15:43 - Sep 3 with 1157 views | PatfromPoole |
Three more months of chronic uncertainty to come then.
It will make the transfer window look like a table top sale.
One thing is for sure; they will hammer employers again.
It is the politics of cowardice and makes absolutely no sense in terms of employment, prosperity and generating the growth which is essential to repay the interest on our horrific national debt, let alone repaying the actual crippling debt itself.
Fun times. |  |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 19:52 - Sep 3 with 1033 views | saintwizzler |
Bring back Ralph, sorry Boris. |  |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 20:42 - Sep 3 with 995 views | huelinsaint |
They're not going to change the date of the budget, that would make them look weak. I'm no supporter of this government ( they're far too right wing) but even I'll admit they've got one hell of a job clearing up the utter chaos left by the last skipfire of a government |  | | |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 00:15 - Sep 4 with 924 views | Chesham_Saint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 20:42 - Sep 3 by huelinsaint |
They're not going to change the date of the budget, that would make them look weak. I'm no supporter of this government ( they're far too right wing) but even I'll admit they've got one hell of a job clearing up the utter chaos left by the last skipfire of a government |
Utter chaos? Could you give a line by line analysis comparison on things such as inflation, jobs etc please as every time I say this, I get a blizzard of contradictory facts from others… |  |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 08:39 - Sep 4 with 807 views | saint22 |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 20:42 - Sep 3 by huelinsaint |
They're not going to change the date of the budget, that would make them look weak. I'm no supporter of this government ( they're far too right wing) but even I'll admit they've got one hell of a job clearing up the utter chaos left by the last skipfire of a government |
Unfortunately 12 years of Tory self serving greed has left this country in tatters
Starmer looks like a rabbit in headlights and clearly many around him are as lost but this country is beyond saving now. Divided skint unaffordable housing the need to earn £100k+ to be comfortable and then you get taxed half and see no benefit unless you are on benefits, we are all screwed
And as for our kids…… | | | |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 09:28 - Sep 4 with 768 views | Chesham_Saint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 08:39 - Sep 4 by saint22 |
Unfortunately 12 years of Tory self serving greed has left this country in tatters
Starmer looks like a rabbit in headlights and clearly many around him are as lost but this country is beyond saving now. Divided skint unaffordable housing the need to earn £100k+ to be comfortable and then you get taxed half and see no benefit unless you are on benefits, we are all screwed
And as for our kids…… |
Seriously? Beyond saving? Somewhere like Haiti or the CAR might be beyond saving. Get a grip. | |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 09:53 - Sep 4 with 750 views | huelinsaint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 00:15 - Sep 4 by Chesham_Saint |
Utter chaos? Could you give a line by line analysis comparison on things such as inflation, jobs etc please as every time I say this, I get a blizzard of contradictory facts from others… |
Brexit, lots of poor Prime Ministers, Liz Truss budget, unfunded tax cuts,austerity which stunted growth.
Owen Patterson affair, illegal prorrogation of parliament, corrupt vip Lane for Covid contracts.
Cameron and the Greensil lobbying scandal(he made a mint out of that)
Windrush scandal, actually sending people to the West Indies that had lived and worked in the UK all their lives.
Partygate, on the lash in Downing Street when the country was locked down, Johnson found to have misled( lied to) parliament, actual government ministers and PM getting fined for their behaviour.
Just a few there | | | |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 10:08 - Sep 4 with 737 views | Chesham_Saint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 09:53 - Sep 4 by huelinsaint |
Brexit, lots of poor Prime Ministers, Liz Truss budget, unfunded tax cuts,austerity which stunted growth.
Owen Patterson affair, illegal prorrogation of parliament, corrupt vip Lane for Covid contracts.
Cameron and the Greensil lobbying scandal(he made a mint out of that)
Windrush scandal, actually sending people to the West Indies that had lived and worked in the UK all their lives.
Partygate, on the lash in Downing Street when the country was locked down, Johnson found to have misled( lied to) parliament, actual government ministers and PM getting fined for their behaviour.
Just a few there |
Not good I agree, but absolutely pales into insignificance compared to what many other countries suffer. Death squads, rampant disease, starvation, hyper inflation, abject poverty and so on. You really think its valid to compare the UK to that? | |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 10:15 - Sep 4 with 729 views | PatfromPoole |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 09:53 - Sep 4 by huelinsaint |
Brexit, lots of poor Prime Ministers, Liz Truss budget, unfunded tax cuts,austerity which stunted growth.
Owen Patterson affair, illegal prorrogation of parliament, corrupt vip Lane for Covid contracts.
Cameron and the Greensil lobbying scandal(he made a mint out of that)
Windrush scandal, actually sending people to the West Indies that had lived and worked in the UK all their lives.
Partygate, on the lash in Downing Street when the country was locked down, Johnson found to have misled( lied to) parliament, actual government ministers and PM getting fined for their behaviour.
Just a few there |
How many of those impacted on the economy?
You started well, but the longer you continued, the less relevant it seemed to be to the mess we are in now. | |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 10:48 - Sep 4 with 699 views | huelinsaint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 10:08 - Sep 4 by Chesham_Saint |
Not good I agree, but absolutely pales into insignificance compared to what many other countries suffer. Death squads, rampant disease, starvation, hyper inflation, abject poverty and so on. You really think its valid to compare the UK to that? |
Where did I compare the UK to less fortunate countries? | | | |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 10:54 - Sep 4 with 683 views | Chesham_Saint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 10:48 - Sep 4 by huelinsaint |
Where did I compare the UK to less fortunate countries? |
When the UK is described as "utter chaos" or "beyond repair" then is it unreasonable to compare us with countries who really are? | |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 10:56 - Sep 4 with 683 views | huelinsaint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 10:15 - Sep 4 by PatfromPoole |
How many of those impacted on the economy?
You started well, but the longer you continued, the less relevant it seemed to be to the mess we are in now. |
Brexit, Liz Truss and austerity, three massive impacts on the economy, 4.3 billion written off from the Covid scheme and 17 billion lost to fraud and error in the same scheme.
I was asked about chaos. during that government as well.
If you want to defend that government, treat yourself but to me they were nothing but a bunch of self serving corrupt t++ts | | | |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 11:45 - Sep 4 with 662 views | Chesham_Saint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 10:56 - Sep 4 by huelinsaint |
Brexit, Liz Truss and austerity, three massive impacts on the economy, 4.3 billion written off from the Covid scheme and 17 billion lost to fraud and error in the same scheme.
I was asked about chaos. during that government as well.
If you want to defend that government, treat yourself but to me they were nothing but a bunch of self serving corrupt t++ts |
Ah, the absolute clarity of hindsight strikes again... | |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 12:32 - Sep 4 with 639 views | huelinsaint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 10:54 - Sep 4 by Chesham_Saint |
When the UK is described as "utter chaos" or "beyond repair" then is it unreasonable to compare us with countries who really are? |
You can if you want but didn't do that | | | |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 12:35 - Sep 4 with 636 views | huelinsaint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 11:45 - Sep 4 by Chesham_Saint |
Ah, the absolute clarity of hindsight strikes again... |
I don't understand, this has nothing to do with hindsight, I'm just pointing out what corrupt t++ts they were, that's it nothing more | | | |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 12:40 - Sep 4 with 626 views | Chesham_Saint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 12:35 - Sep 4 by huelinsaint |
I don't understand, this has nothing to do with hindsight, I'm just pointing out what corrupt t++ts they were, that's it nothing more |
I meant that people seem to forget how desperate most people were during Covid with burial pits seemingly being dug in places like Manhattan. Ok, there may well have been corruption, but at the time there was a mad dash for anything PPE.
Now, in hindsight, people forget the paranoia and blame politicians for the stupidity of lockdown etc - whereas weren't all of the mainstream parties in favour of this? | |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 13:02 - Sep 4 with 607 views | kingslandstand1 |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 12:40 - Sep 4 by Chesham_Saint |
I meant that people seem to forget how desperate most people were during Covid with burial pits seemingly being dug in places like Manhattan. Ok, there may well have been corruption, but at the time there was a mad dash for anything PPE.
Now, in hindsight, people forget the paranoia and blame politicians for the stupidity of lockdown etc - whereas weren't all of the mainstream parties in favour of this? |
And obviously Covid itself was the Torues fault |  |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 13:32 - Sep 4 with 584 views | huelinsaint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 12:40 - Sep 4 by Chesham_Saint |
I meant that people seem to forget how desperate most people were during Covid with burial pits seemingly being dug in places like Manhattan. Ok, there may well have been corruption, but at the time there was a mad dash for anything PPE.
Now, in hindsight, people forget the paranoia and blame politicians for the stupidity of lockdown etc - whereas weren't all of the mainstream parties in favour of this? |
I agree there was panic and PPE was needed but the Tories insisted on a VIP Lane for contracts and dished them out to party donors (Michelle Mone, Matt Hancock's local pub's landlord etc) and friends of ministers. They totally ignored people who were contacting the government in good faith to help, I remember people phoning radio stations to say they were being ignored by the government.
I still don't think Ms Mone has paid back the £220 million, just imagine all the young players with potential Sport Republic could buy with that amount | | | |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 13:37 - Sep 4 with 576 views | Chesham_Saint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 13:32 - Sep 4 by huelinsaint |
I agree there was panic and PPE was needed but the Tories insisted on a VIP Lane for contracts and dished them out to party donors (Michelle Mone, Matt Hancock's local pub's landlord etc) and friends of ministers. They totally ignored people who were contacting the government in good faith to help, I remember people phoning radio stations to say they were being ignored by the government.
I still don't think Ms Mone has paid back the £220 million, just imagine all the young players with potential Sport Republic could buy with that amount |
Fair point. Ironically, Mone is a woman and working class - but like Rayner she isn't being pursued because of that. Both have a case to answer. | |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 13:52 - Sep 4 with 570 views | hedgeend61 |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 08:39 - Sep 4 by saint22 |
Unfortunately 12 years of Tory self serving greed has left this country in tatters
Starmer looks like a rabbit in headlights and clearly many around him are as lost but this country is beyond saving now. Divided skint unaffordable housing the need to earn £100k+ to be comfortable and then you get taxed half and see no benefit unless you are on benefits, we are all screwed
And as for our kids…… |
£100k pa Nobs, your benefit payments won't be anywhere close then, won't really touch the sides 
You do make us laugh Nobs kutgw |  | | |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 16:58 - Sep 4 with 493 views | saint22 |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 09:28 - Sep 4 by Chesham_Saint |
Seriously? Beyond saving? Somewhere like Haiti or the CAR might be beyond saving. Get a grip. |
In comparison to similar countries then
we are little Britain, a little island of little significance and little importance anymore | | | |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 17:15 - Sep 4 with 476 views | Ron11 |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 16:58 - Sep 4 by saint22 |
In comparison to similar countries then
we are little Britain, a little island of little significance and little importance anymore |
And the 6th richest country in the world.....no wonder all these non entities want to come here. | | | |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 17:39 - Sep 4 with 454 views | Heisenberg |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 17:15 - Sep 4 by Ron11 |
And the 6th richest country in the world.....no wonder all these non entities want to come here. |
Don’t know where you live Ron but I see a Britain in decline. Fly tipping is rife and the streets are full of litter and twots tags everywhere. Homelessness and street drinking has risen dramatically making some areas unpleasant to visit. Add to that the dire public transport system and increasingly clogged roads we really need to have a good long look at things. Our Parliament is more akin to Hogwarts. And if people think stopping people coming across the channel in boats will sort everything out are deluded. |  |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 17:56 - Sep 4 with 434 views | Chesham_Saint |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 16:58 - Sep 4 by saint22 |
In comparison to similar countries then
we are little Britain, a little island of little significance and little importance anymore |
You must not have had any international dealings then, as London is still very much a world leader when it comes to corporate matters and the law... | |
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| 26 November - date of next Budget on 18:42 - Sep 4 with 417 views | Ron11 |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 17:39 - Sep 4 by Heisenberg |
Don’t know where you live Ron but I see a Britain in decline. Fly tipping is rife and the streets are full of litter and twots tags everywhere. Homelessness and street drinking has risen dramatically making some areas unpleasant to visit. Add to that the dire public transport system and increasingly clogged roads we really need to have a good long look at things. Our Parliament is more akin to Hogwarts. And if people think stopping people coming across the channel in boats will sort everything out are deluded. |
I agree with you....and one of the reasons for the lack of respect for authority and the law (rise in fly tipping, litter, ridiculous speeds on the roads, aggressive driving, knife crime, general crime etc etc) has been the rise of the do gooder in this once peaceful country of ours - not able to discipline children in the home and schools, lenient judges, not to mention the likes of Theresa May who cut funding to the Police force resulting in 20.000 less officers.
And let's not forget the days when ordinary people.would be out on the streets sweeping their own doorsteps - now I'm sad to see that we're importing some 'cultures' that know only one place for rubbish, and that's out of their window or straight onto the streets or out of their car windows.
I live in Locks Heath now but originally from Gillingham in Kent, which used to be a genteel little town - clean, tidy and fairly respectable. Now most of it is a complete shithole, with born and bred locals having no respect for anything, and like what I say or not, third world immigration has in some cases brought third world habits, especially with trash disposal, crime and no civilised integration. I you think that's racist, so be it, but unfortunately it's true.
And you mentioned homelessness - amongst many others, we have homeless veterans who have served this country - in a country which is the 6th richest in the world, but in which both the Tories and now Labour provided minimal help to our homeless, but have and are still spending billions on those who are here illegally, with no right at all to residency. | | | |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 10:55 - Sep 5 with 223 views | Bridders2 |
| 26 November - date of next Budget on 18:42 - Sep 4 by Ron11 |
I agree with you....and one of the reasons for the lack of respect for authority and the law (rise in fly tipping, litter, ridiculous speeds on the roads, aggressive driving, knife crime, general crime etc etc) has been the rise of the do gooder in this once peaceful country of ours - not able to discipline children in the home and schools, lenient judges, not to mention the likes of Theresa May who cut funding to the Police force resulting in 20.000 less officers.
And let's not forget the days when ordinary people.would be out on the streets sweeping their own doorsteps - now I'm sad to see that we're importing some 'cultures' that know only one place for rubbish, and that's out of their window or straight onto the streets or out of their car windows.
I live in Locks Heath now but originally from Gillingham in Kent, which used to be a genteel little town - clean, tidy and fairly respectable. Now most of it is a complete shithole, with born and bred locals having no respect for anything, and like what I say or not, third world immigration has in some cases brought third world habits, especially with trash disposal, crime and no civilised integration. I you think that's racist, so be it, but unfortunately it's true.
And you mentioned homelessness - amongst many others, we have homeless veterans who have served this country - in a country which is the 6th richest in the world, but in which both the Tories and now Labour provided minimal help to our homeless, but have and are still spending billions on those who are here illegally, with no right at all to residency. |
Nail on the head, Ron, and the majority of people in this country know it. | | | |
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