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Ukraine and us 12:19 - Sep 19 with 3571 viewsBoundy

Interesting article ,one of which I've not seen in mainstream media , but then again I don't watch much TV .

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/who-benefits-from-the-100-year-uk-ukraine-

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Ukraine and us on 18:09 - Sep 19 with 3385 viewsSullutaCreturned

It's a tough one. I totally agree with stopping Putin but at the same time that miney could be well spent at home.

Will the 100 year agreement benefit the UK financially like Lend/Lease benefitted the USA? I didn't read the whole article.
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Ukraine and us on 20:35 - Sep 19 with 3296 viewsbuilthjack

If we don’t stop Putin, he will take them, country by country. Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, onto Poland, then the big ones. He should have been stopped in weeks.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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Ukraine and us on 20:40 - Sep 19 with 3290 viewsonehunglow

Ukraine and us on 20:35 - Sep 19 by builthjack

If we don’t stop Putin, he will take them, country by country. Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, onto Poland, then the big ones. He should have been stopped in weeks.


100% correct
Putin a liar by definition and mass murderer
Ukraine has been shat on
He wants all the former USSR countries back in mother Russia

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Ukraine and us on 22:22 - Sep 19 with 3215 viewsBoundy

Ukraine and us on 20:40 - Sep 19 by onehunglow

100% correct
Putin a liar by definition and mass murderer
Ukraine has been shat on
He wants all the former USSR countries back in mother Russia


He's now had his air force fly into Estonia's air space , so he's certainly looking at what sort of response they get when they do . So thats a number of NATO countries that have had the pleasure of Ivans company ' is this the precursor of an attack on the west ,god help us if it is because no one will win.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Ukraine and us on 22:41 - Sep 19 with 3203 viewsscruffyjack

The boss of the kremlin crime cartel is playing games because that’s what evil does.
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Ukraine and us on 22:51 - Sep 19 with 3176 viewsmajorraglan

Ukraine and us on 22:22 - Sep 19 by Boundy

He's now had his air force fly into Estonia's air space , so he's certainly looking at what sort of response they get when they do . So thats a number of NATO countries that have had the pleasure of Ivans company ' is this the precursor of an attack on the west ,god help us if it is because no one will win.


I’d be surprised if he attacked because he’s got his hands full with the Ukraine, but he’s certainly playing games and I suspect that the differencing opinions in NATO isn’t helping. To be honest, if his planes were well into Estonian airspace maybe a ground to air missile or 2 would send out a strong message!!
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Ukraine and us on 00:15 - Sep 20 with 3115 viewsDJack

Ukraine and us on 22:51 - Sep 19 by majorraglan

I’d be surprised if he attacked because he’s got his hands full with the Ukraine, but he’s certainly playing games and I suspect that the differencing opinions in NATO isn’t helping. To be honest, if his planes were well into Estonian airspace maybe a ground to air missile or 2 would send out a strong message!!


... Except that is what Putin needs.

Putin is effectively losing in Ukraine, as long as they oppose him he does not look strong and he doesn't now how long before he is deposed by a "strong man". his only off-ramp and chance to cling to power is if he can drag a NATO nation into kinetic action and therfore claim that it took the collective might of NATO to stop Russsia and not "little old Ukraine".

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Ukraine and us on 01:23 - Sep 20 with 3085 viewsRobbie

The Don rolling out the red carpet on American land to welcome Putin .

Even a hitch home in The Beast was laid on , only one winner in that propoganda viewing .

Wonder if that sensitive subject was disscused over cheese and biscuits recently .

Nope keep America happy as they force more AI into mainstream media and less jobs for workers will soon follow , phone my HSBC Bank now I chat online with a bot , or am I .

Spooky stuff around the corner , or a waste of worry as the nukes approach us .
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Ukraine and us on 06:05 - Sep 20 with 3010 viewsbuilthjack

Ukraine and us on 22:51 - Sep 19 by majorraglan

I’d be surprised if he attacked because he’s got his hands full with the Ukraine, but he’s certainly playing games and I suspect that the differencing opinions in NATO isn’t helping. To be honest, if his planes were well into Estonian airspace maybe a ground to air missile or 2 would send out a strong message!!


Turkey had the answer in 2015. Shoot them down if they invade your airspace.
They never went back.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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Ukraine and us on 10:55 - Sep 20 with 2914 viewsmax936

Ukraine and us on 20:35 - Sep 19 by builthjack

If we don’t stop Putin, he will take them, country by country. Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, onto Poland, then the big ones. He should have been stopped in weeks.


He won't find it easy to take Poland they've amassed an hell of a military force, they;ve spent billions on their armed forces since the end of WW2.

If NATO take on Russia we'll be into WW3 surely nobody wants that ??

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Ukraine and us on 01:18 - Sep 21 with 2621 viewsRobbie

BBC reporting Starmer is ready to acknowledge Palestine as a State later on .
The UK backs the population there and freedom of movement .

A day after he cuddled up to The Don and promises of Trade were headline News .

Now his new bestie has sided with Palestine and said in so many words and well prepared Press releases , we want peace but Israel are the baddies .

Reaction from The White House on the this decision could spin off into Trump washing his hands of NATO and Europe in general , they are over there , let them carry on .

His other bestie continues to bomb Ukraine non stop though .

Read through some of the small print from this reporting and the Muslim angle was taken into account over the outcome .

Doom and gloom on the horizon folks .



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Ukraine and us on 10:37 - Sep 21 with 2405 viewsmax936

Ukraine and us on 01:18 - Sep 21 by Robbie

BBC reporting Starmer is ready to acknowledge Palestine as a State later on .
The UK backs the population there and freedom of movement .

A day after he cuddled up to The Don and promises of Trade were headline News .

Now his new bestie has sided with Palestine and said in so many words and well prepared Press releases , we want peace but Israel are the baddies .

Reaction from The White House on the this decision could spin off into Trump washing his hands of NATO and Europe in general , they are over there , let them carry on .

His other bestie continues to bomb Ukraine non stop though .

Read through some of the small print from this reporting and the Muslim angle was taken into account over the outcome .

Doom and gloom on the horizon folks .



[Post edited 21 Sep 1:33]


Yet more evidence to support the opinion that Starmer is clueless and totally out of his depth.

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Ukraine and us on 10:45 - Sep 21 with 2402 viewsDr_Winston

Ukraine and us on 10:55 - Sep 20 by max936

He won't find it easy to take Poland they've amassed an hell of a military force, they;ve spent billions on their armed forces since the end of WW2.

If NATO take on Russia we'll be into WW3 surely nobody wants that ??


Exactly.

Putin can't "take Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, onto Poland, then the big ones". It's been three and a half years and several hundred thousand deaths and he can't even take a quarter of the Ukraine.

There's not a chance in hell that he could do even two of the Baltic countries without nuking his economy and his population, especially now they're all forewarned. If he came directly West he'd never get past Poland, and he'd have to go via Belarus to get to them.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Ukraine and us on 13:12 - Sep 21 with 2289 viewsSullutaCreturned

Ukraine and us on 10:37 - Sep 21 by max936

Yet more evidence to support the opinion that Starmer is clueless and totally out of his depth.


Recognising Palestine was denounced as posturing by Rifkind this morning. He said it has no benefit for anyone and Palestine has none of the characteristics of a state at the moment anyway so he called it posturing.

Rifkind is right, in my opinion. When there was no benefit in it for anybody except Hamas who will now view October 7 as a victory or will claim so, what has Starmer achieved besides possibly pissong Trump off...and Israel ibviously.
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Ukraine and us on 14:08 - Sep 21 with 2235 viewstrampie

Ukraine and us on 13:12 - Sep 21 by SullutaCreturned

Recognising Palestine was denounced as posturing by Rifkind this morning. He said it has no benefit for anyone and Palestine has none of the characteristics of a state at the moment anyway so he called it posturing.

Rifkind is right, in my opinion. When there was no benefit in it for anybody except Hamas who will now view October 7 as a victory or will claim so, what has Starmer achieved besides possibly pissong Trump off...and Israel ibviously.


Rifkind a name from the past, if its the ex Tory minister i would guess he would say that, he is a Jew isn't he ?

Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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Ukraine and us on 17:32 - Sep 21 with 2053 viewsmajorraglan

Ukraine and us on 14:08 - Sep 21 by trampie

Rifkind a name from the past, if its the ex Tory minister i would guess he would say that, he is a Jew isn't he ?


Yes, it is the ex Conservative minister Malcom Rifkind.

He is highly respected for his work in his previous career, but he is Jewish and a cousin of the former minister Leon Brittan.
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Ukraine and us on 17:43 - Sep 21 with 2028 viewstrampie

Ukraine and us on 17:32 - Sep 21 by majorraglan

Yes, it is the ex Conservative minister Malcom Rifkind.

He is highly respected for his work in his previous career, but he is Jewish and a cousin of the former minister Leon Brittan.


Yes i remember Leon Brittan he was another Jew in high office in Government, I didn't know they were cousins.

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Ukraine and us on 01:37 - Sep 22 with 1808 viewsRobbie

Media clip from No.10 doing the rounds on The Beeb looking like Starmer is fumbling his words and body language is easy to see through .

Wonder how many retakes and editing were necessary to get a 1 minute excuse out there .

Forced hand movements and a prepared speech from his advisors was not good viewing .

The Don must be seething sitting in Capitol Hill.
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