| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund 20:01 - Sep 29 with 1380 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
It is only fair and democratic that the people who put up with the grief of pylons and turbines share of the benefits.
Merthyr Tydfil was the richest place in that world in terms of mineral wealth but you would never know if you went there. Even today the mine firms have cut and run and left a mess.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjr5qx50y92o.amp
The Senedd has been promoting green energy and net zero but is not seeing the cash. There is the fracking question and trapped methane in the old coal mines.
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:12 - Sep 30 with 1071 views | SullutaCreturned |
The richest? What, richer than Russia or the DRC? Richer than the USA, Canada or Saudi?
Wales was raped for it's mineral wealth but that is history now.
What is fair hardly ever happens. |  | | |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:40 - Sep 30 with 1039 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:12 - Sep 30 by SullutaCreturned |
The richest? What, richer than Russia or the DRC? Richer than the USA, Canada or Saudi?
Wales was raped for it's mineral wealth but that is history now.
What is fair hardly ever happens. |
You don't even need to go abroad, the mining towns of Nottinghamshire are comparable as a like for like. Then there is the copper towns of Cornwall. We won't even mention offshore wealth of the North Sea. If he keeps posting bollux he keeps getting ignored. |  | | |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 16:25 - Sep 30 with 962 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:12 - Sep 30 by SullutaCreturned |
The richest? What, richer than Russia or the DRC? Richer than the USA, Canada or Saudi?
Wales was raped for it's mineral wealth but that is history now.
What is fair hardly ever happens. |
Yeah the industry owners creamed off the profits from that. Some things never change. But then without that industry coming here and creating jobs Wales would have a population of about 400,000. The towns and cities and communities we know simply wouldn’t exist. |  |
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 16:45 - Sep 30 with 948 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 16:25 - Sep 30 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Yeah the industry owners creamed off the profits from that. Some things never change. But then without that industry coming here and creating jobs Wales would have a population of about 400,000. The towns and cities and communities we know simply wouldn’t exist. |
So true, Lord Merthyr W.T. Lewis made an absolute fortune, but mine owners were getting very rich a long time before him, he just grouped them together and made it all more professional. | | | |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 17:44 - Sep 30 with 891 views | Boundy |
You don't like pylons,you have your own generator I take it. | |
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:07 - Oct 2 with 526 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:40 - Sep 30 by Whiterockin |
You don't even need to go abroad, the mining towns of Nottinghamshire are comparable as a like for like. Then there is the copper towns of Cornwall. We won't even mention offshore wealth of the North Sea. If he keeps posting bollux he keeps getting ignored. |
You have not noticed but particularly with the wind farms planning permission on land are often only given if benefits do not go to local communities.
The Merthyr example is made because British project management has let them down. Open cast coal mining was allowed only if Escrow funds were provided by the developer for reinstatement. These funds were taken from profits.
Probable cute accounting we are all familiar with leave a £135m black hole due to a lack of administrative oversight.
You might not care but I do. | |
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:56 - Oct 2 with 499 views | max936 |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:07 - Oct 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You have not noticed but particularly with the wind farms planning permission on land are often only given if benefits do not go to local communities.
The Merthyr example is made because British project management has let them down. Open cast coal mining was allowed only if Escrow funds were provided by the developer for reinstatement. These funds were taken from profits.
Probable cute accounting we are all familiar with leave a £135m black hole due to a lack of administrative oversight.
You might not care but I do. |
Well if you do really care you'd go and do something about it and put your name forward for councillor or an independent councillor and express your concerns and garner local support and speak for them, no good coming on a Football Forum spouting your displeasure get off your arse and be proactive! |  |
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:59 - Oct 2 with 499 views | Boundy |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:07 - Oct 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You have not noticed but particularly with the wind farms planning permission on land are often only given if benefits do not go to local communities.
The Merthyr example is made because British project management has let them down. Open cast coal mining was allowed only if Escrow funds were provided by the developer for reinstatement. These funds were taken from profits.
Probable cute accounting we are all familiar with leave a £135m black hole due to a lack of administrative oversight.
You might not care but I do. |
"You have not noticed but particularly with the wind farms planning permission on land are often only given if benefits do not go to local communities." As someone who has worked on a few wind Farms in Wales then I tell you you're wrong, as part of any planning consent communities can and do benefit which can be delivered in a wide range of forms,
including (but not limited to):
Direct financial support (such as Community Benefit Funds)
Opportunities such as community ownership, profit share, and shares ownership
Measures or initiatives to support the reduction of energy costs
The provision of new or improved local infrastructure
Sponsorship of organisations, sporting and cultural events
In-kind offers such as habitat management programmes
Enabling education or training opportunities | |
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 23:05 - Oct 2 with 493 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:56 - Oct 2 by max936 |
Well if you do really care you'd go and do something about it and put your name forward for councillor or an independent councillor and express your concerns and garner local support and speak for them, no good coming on a Football Forum spouting your displeasure get off your arse and be proactive! |
I do not understand why people get personal. It has nothing to do with me. This is a forum and I give my opinion and can challenge other opinions. My personal circumstances are not up for debate and none of your business.. | |
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 23:07 - Oct 2 with 486 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 22:59 - Oct 2 by Boundy |
"You have not noticed but particularly with the wind farms planning permission on land are often only given if benefits do not go to local communities." As someone who has worked on a few wind Farms in Wales then I tell you you're wrong, as part of any planning consent communities can and do benefit which can be delivered in a wide range of forms,
including (but not limited to):
Direct financial support (such as Community Benefit Funds)
Opportunities such as community ownership, profit share, and shares ownership
Measures or initiatives to support the reduction of energy costs
The provision of new or improved local infrastructure
Sponsorship of organisations, sporting and cultural events
In-kind offers such as habitat management programmes
Enabling education or training opportunities |
Yes I actually agree. Somehow a "not". got into my post. | |
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 23:39 - Oct 2 with 476 views | max936 |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 23:05 - Oct 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I do not understand why people get personal. It has nothing to do with me. This is a forum and I give my opinion and can challenge other opinions. My personal circumstances are not up for debate and none of your business.. |
Well its alright for you to suggest that others don't care, and then say that you do care, but you've no intention of expressing your views in quarters as to where they might hold some weight and yet you say care, but no place else other than on here, where no one as probably even given it a thought.
You are suggesting that I'm getting personal, when you have already got personal by suggesting that another poster probably doesn't care, you can't have it both ways, but you always think that you can post what you like without redress and then you get all uppity when challenged.
I couldn't careless about "your" personal circumstances, but if you don't want to get challenged on stuff your post think at what you're going to post before posting.
There you go yet another great piece of advice for you to learn from.
And on that note I bid you a good night. | |
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 12:57 - Oct 3 with 411 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 23:39 - Oct 2 by max936 |
Well its alright for you to suggest that others don't care, and then say that you do care, but you've no intention of expressing your views in quarters as to where they might hold some weight and yet you say care, but no place else other than on here, where no one as probably even given it a thought.
You are suggesting that I'm getting personal, when you have already got personal by suggesting that another poster probably doesn't care, you can't have it both ways, but you always think that you can post what you like without redress and then you get all uppity when challenged.
I couldn't careless about "your" personal circumstances, but if you don't want to get challenged on stuff your post think at what you're going to post before posting.
There you go yet another great piece of advice for you to learn from.
And on that note I bid you a good night. |
I do not give individual people on here advice. While I a have a lot of knowledge and experience I do understand people will not listen to me. I address ths forum as a whole in general. You advice to me personally is not welcome. | |
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 16:47 - Oct 3 with 353 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 12:57 - Oct 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I do not give individual people on here advice. While I a have a lot of knowledge and experience I do understand people will not listen to me. I address ths forum as a whole in general. You advice to me personally is not welcome. |
Maybe you should comment on the stuff you have knowledge and experience of then? Because it usually seems that your posts get pulled up for being wrong, factually wrong that is.
If you care so much then do something, someone said that to me once. | | | |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 21:55 - Oct 3 with 271 views | max936 |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 21:21 - Oct 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You spend a lot of time addressing me and making judgements. I rarely if ever criticise you. I think the modern put down is to say " I am in your head rent free" whoever you are. |
Not making any judgements on you or anyone else, funnily enough you do plenty of that, I'm not criticizing you I'm pointing out your hypocrisy.
"You spend a lot of time addressing me and making judgements."
Only in your head, the posts I've made on this thread are the first time I've responded to you for longer than I can remember, that's just your vivid imagination running away with you again.
Oh, and there are plenty on here who know of me or actually know me not that I am of any importance of course because I'm not.
Can you say the same?
Oh and the correct term is Living in your head rent free and I can 100% assure that you most certainly don't.
I'm calling you out because of the nonsense you post, it's hard to believe on how strong you feel about certain subjects yet all you do spout your displeasure on those things on here, instead of taking the bull by the horns and doing something about those things.
And that's NOT me telling you what to do, just querying as to why you are not doing anything about it. [Post edited 3 Oct 21:56]
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:59 - Oct 4 with 138 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 21:55 - Oct 3 by max936 |
Not making any judgements on you or anyone else, funnily enough you do plenty of that, I'm not criticizing you I'm pointing out your hypocrisy.
"You spend a lot of time addressing me and making judgements."
Only in your head, the posts I've made on this thread are the first time I've responded to you for longer than I can remember, that's just your vivid imagination running away with you again.
Oh, and there are plenty on here who know of me or actually know me not that I am of any importance of course because I'm not.
Can you say the same?
Oh and the correct term is Living in your head rent free and I can 100% assure that you most certainly don't.
I'm calling you out because of the nonsense you post, it's hard to believe on how strong you feel about certain subjects yet all you do spout your displeasure on those things on here, instead of taking the bull by the horns and doing something about those things.
And that's NOT me telling you what to do, just querying as to why you are not doing anything about it. [Post edited 3 Oct 21:56]
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 18:02 - Oct 4 with 117 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:59 - Oct 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Not interested in online spats. |
Me too
Kiss me | |
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| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 23:36 - Oct 4 with 81 views | max936 |
| Welsh Sovereign wealth fund on 15:59 - Oct 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Not interested in online spats. |
I'm not interested in online spats either, you just can't accept being put straight because as always it's your illogical ways or the highways.
You're always up for debate, but you cannot debate.
I'll bid you a goodnight. | |
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