| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:09 - Oct 17 with 1024 views | Fireboy2 |
Im sorry but this should be moved to the non football for obvious reasons. |  | |  |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:11 - Oct 17 with 1018 views | 1983 |
Is this not about a football game? And football fans? |  |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:12 - Oct 17 with 1014 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:09 - Oct 17 by Fireboy2 |
Im sorry but this should be moved to the non football for obvious reasons. |
It’s definitely football related if local authorities are banning football fans from attending games for political (and racist) reasons. |  |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:14 - Oct 17 with 1008 views | 1983 |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:12 - Oct 17 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s definitely football related if local authorities are banning football fans from attending games for political (and racist) reasons. |
Thank you
These are not terrorists they are football fans wanting to come and support their team simple as that. And we as a country can't protect them so we tell them best not come?? Who's winning here?? | |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:20 - Oct 17 with 981 views | trampie |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:14 - Oct 17 by 1983 |
Thank you
These are not terrorists they are football fans wanting to come and support their team simple as that. And we as a country can't protect them so we tell them best not come?? Who's winning here?? |
They are notorious football hooligans, English teams and fans have been banned so why can't an Israeli teams fans be banned for the same reason. |  |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:28 - Oct 17 with 974 views | TenbySwan |
They are not banned because they are Israeli. They are banned because they are hooligans.
Have the people moaning about this seen videos of their indiscretions?
If you are Israeli and support Aston Villa or indeed any other team you can go. |  | | |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:31 - Oct 17 with 955 views | trampie |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:28 - Oct 17 by TenbySwan |
They are not banned because they are Israeli. They are banned because they are hooligans.
Have the people moaning about this seen videos of their indiscretions?
If you are Israeli and support Aston Villa or indeed any other team you can go. |
Absolutely. | |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:35 - Oct 17 with 939 views | Fireboy2 |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:28 - Oct 17 by TenbySwan |
They are not banned because they are Israeli. They are banned because they are hooligans.
Have the people moaning about this seen videos of their indiscretions?
If you are Israeli and support Aston Villa or indeed any other team you can go. |
This ^ they are hooligans and there will be protests so it wont end well
What p!sses me off is the wet politicians who fawn over israel.
They should be backing the police not undermining them.
They wont be under attack from both sides.
Well done to the police 👏
As ive said, this should be moved to the non football because ultimately its about bloody politics. | | | |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:38 - Oct 17 with 920 views | trampie |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:35 - Oct 17 by Fireboy2 |
This ^ they are hooligans and there will be protests so it wont end well
What p!sses me off is the wet politicians who fawn over israel.
They should be backing the police not undermining them.
They wont be under attack from both sides.
Well done to the police 👏
As ive said, this should be moved to the non football because ultimately its about bloody politics. |
Absolutely. | |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:46 - Oct 17 with 879 views | trampie |
I don't do conspiracy theories, I want proof, reasoning, but the conspiracy theory I have seen online around this is Starmer, Tom Robinson, the Tory leader etc wants the Maccabi fans there so if there is a disturbance they can claim antisemitism.
The reason is they are so deep in backing Israel and the genocide/war crimes that has gone on they now need to try and play it down by pointing to antisemitism as a justification for their support as history is not going to be overly favourable in time to Israel. | |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:52 - Oct 17 with 873 views | Fireboy2 |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:46 - Oct 17 by trampie |
I don't do conspiracy theories, I want proof, reasoning, but the conspiracy theory I have seen online around this is Starmer, Tom Robinson, the Tory leader etc wants the Maccabi fans there so if there is a disturbance they can claim antisemitism.
The reason is they are so deep in backing Israel and the genocide/war crimes that has gone on they now need to try and play it down by pointing to antisemitism as a justification for their support as history is not going to be overly favourable in time to Israel. |
Aye its all about them.
They dont give a flying fcuk about the police who will be in danger along with innocent fans who have nothing to do with the sh!te going on in the middle east. | | | |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:59 - Oct 17 with 854 views | trampie |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:52 - Oct 17 by Fireboy2 |
Aye its all about them.
They dont give a flying fcuk about the police who will be in danger along with innocent fans who have nothing to do with the sh!te going on in the middle east. |
Yes I know, it's sad and corrupt. | |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 18:08 - Oct 17 with 834 views | shingle |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:20 - Oct 17 by trampie |
They are notorious football hooligans, English teams and fans have been banned so why can't an Israeli teams fans be banned for the same reason. |
Cannot be any worse than English fans surely, as for the games i have attended involving Israeli there fans have been well behaved, even in Amsterdam the Jury is still out on just who instigated all that i would also imagine it is not the Israeli's the police are worried about kicking off it is the vast number of Muslims in the Birmingham area that they are worried about. [Post edited 17 Oct 18:19]
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 18:13 - Oct 17 with 815 views | KeithHaynes |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:28 - Oct 17 by TenbySwan |
They are not banned because they are Israeli. They are banned because they are hooligans.
Have the people moaning about this seen videos of their indiscretions?
If you are Israeli and support Aston Villa or indeed any other team you can go. |
I’ve not seen any reports that they have been banned for hooligans reasons.
I’m aware of the instances in Amsterdam, but I’m pretty sure these aren’t being cited as the reason for such a ban. |  |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 18:14 - Oct 17 with 805 views | trampie |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 18:08 - Oct 17 by shingle |
Cannot be any worse than English fans surely, as for the games i have attended involving Israeli there fans have been well behaved, even in Amsterdam the Jury is still out on just who instigated all that i would also imagine it is not the Israeli's the police are worried about kicking off it is the vast number of Muslims in the Birmingham area that they are worried about. [Post edited 17 Oct 18:19]
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I think they are, when one of their own players that might be brown or Arab or Muslim get the ball the booing has been horrific. | |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 18:15 - Oct 17 with 811 views | KeithHaynes |
If there is further mention of war crimes and genocide this thread will be removed. Stay focussed.
You can’t want this to remain on the football board if personal belief politics are mentioned.
Makes sense ?
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 18:19 - Oct 17 with 786 views | trampie |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 18:13 - Oct 17 by KeithHaynes |
I’ve not seen any reports that they have been banned for hooligans reasons.
I’m aware of the instances in Amsterdam, but I’m pretty sure these aren’t being cited as the reason for such a ban. |
Maccabi Tel Aviv: Why have Israeli club's fans been banned from Aston Villa Europa League game? Key questions answered | Football News | Sky Sports https://share.google/z8cKeLntuvApc6L4u
This is what I've seen on the matter from the above link.
"The UK Football Policing Unit (UKFPU) were also involved in the advising on the decision.
"The UKFPU supported West Midlands Police in gaining access to the full details of the previous incidents in Amsterdam," [Post edited 17 Oct 18:25]
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 19:02 - Oct 17 with 703 views | pencoedjack |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:28 - Oct 17 by TenbySwan |
They are not banned because they are Israeli. They are banned because they are hooligans.
Have the people moaning about this seen videos of their indiscretions?
If you are Israeli and support Aston Villa or indeed any other team you can go. |
Villa will ban Birmingham fans next time they play?
They are banned because they support a team from Israel & the MP for that area is pro Palestine.
Let’s cut the bullshite. |  | | |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 19:09 - Oct 17 with 698 views | Dr_Winston |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:28 - Oct 17 by TenbySwan |
They are not banned because they are Israeli. They are banned because they are hooligans.
Have the people moaning about this seen videos of their indiscretions?
If you are Israeli and support Aston Villa or indeed any other team you can go. |
So would Millwall fans be banned from going to Birmingham? |  |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 19:38 - Oct 17 with 651 views | Fireboy2 |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 19:09 - Oct 17 by Dr_Winston |
So would Millwall fans be banned from going to Birmingham? |
Its a little bit more dangerous than english football hooliganism Doc. | | | |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 20:07 - Oct 17 with 600 views | 1983 |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 17:46 - Oct 17 by trampie |
I don't do conspiracy theories, I want proof, reasoning, but the conspiracy theory I have seen online around this is Starmer, Tom Robinson, the Tory leader etc wants the Maccabi fans there so if there is a disturbance they can claim antisemitism.
The reason is they are so deep in backing Israel and the genocide/war crimes that has gone on they now need to try and play it down by pointing to antisemitism as a justification for their support as history is not going to be overly favourable in time to Israel. |
You don't do conspiracy theories and then you give us a conspiracy theory
You melt | |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 20:15 - Oct 17 with 584 views | trampie |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 20:07 - Oct 17 by 1983 |
You don't do conspiracy theories and then you give us a conspiracy theory
You melt |
Up to you to make your mind up if the theory has any merit. | |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 20:27 - Oct 17 with 565 views | Dr_Winston |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 19:38 - Oct 17 by Fireboy2 |
Its a little bit more dangerous than english football hooliganism Doc. |
Not sure about that. English Hoolies have a bit more of a reputation than Israeli ones. Even the Guardian reported that most issues with Maccabi fans in Amsterdam came from them being targeted.
Bottom line is that this ban would not be happening if Villa weren't playing an Israeli side and the local plod weren't terrified of the prospect of dealing with half of their local population wanting blood. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 20:32 - Oct 17 with 540 views | KeithHaynes |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 18:19 - Oct 17 by trampie |
Maccabi Tel Aviv: Why have Israeli club's fans been banned from Aston Villa Europa League game? Key questions answered | Football News | Sky Sports https://share.google/z8cKeLntuvApc6L4u
This is what I've seen on the matter from the above link.
"The UK Football Policing Unit (UKFPU) were also involved in the advising on the decision.
"The UKFPU supported West Midlands Police in gaining access to the full details of the previous incidents in Amsterdam," [Post edited 17 Oct 18:25]
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First time I’ve heard a one off incident has been taken so seriously.
There’s loads every time the championship league is played. Nobody banned yet. I’m assuming without full confirmation otherwise this has a lot more to do with politics than football. In fact anyone who believes it’s about their behaviour in Amsterdam alone is nuts.
I can understand the authorities banning them because of the amount of disorder which would take place from a community perspective. Fear of severe injury or loss of life outside of the ground. But of course that’s not football related. That’s a social concern brought about by the local politician, weekend warriors and purveyors of BS regardless of the side they are on. Again not football related.
As they can’t blame football then some would say it’s an anti semetic ban, others then will use the genocide card which confirms all along it’s nothing to do with football on both fronts. You see it’s nothing to do with football. And the fact responses on here bar the one off scrap in Amsterdam prove it. This goes deeper, so let’s not pretend it doesn’t.
And it isn’t footballs problem. | |
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| Our country is Unbelievable on 20:32 - Oct 17 with 538 views | trampie |
| Our country is Unbelievable on 20:27 - Oct 17 by Dr_Winston |
Not sure about that. English Hoolies have a bit more of a reputation than Israeli ones. Even the Guardian reported that most issues with Maccabi fans in Amsterdam came from them being targeted.
Bottom line is that this ban would not be happening if Villa weren't playing an Israeli side and the local plod weren't terrified of the prospect of dealing with half of their local population wanting blood. |
"the prospect of dealing with half of their local population wanting blood" you say.
That's a bit of a damning statement. | |
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