| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder 12:49 - Oct 22 with 807 views | Southamptonfan |
Another win for Sheffield United last night, who have quickly started winning with their new, EXPERIENCED, no nonsense, respected manager. From zero points in the first 6 games, to winning 3 games in 4.
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| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 12:52 - Oct 22 with 799 views | PatfromPoole |
He knows the League. |  |
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| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 13:01 - Oct 22 with 740 views | Southamptonfan |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 12:52 - Oct 22 by PatfromPoole |
He knows the League. |
Exactly. And I do understand this lack of striker argument, and that recruitment has again been utter sh!t. But the same things were being said at Sheff Utd, who also couldn't score and who kept making individual mistakes. But the new experienced manager, who knows this league inside out has turned it around. Will Still hasn't a clue what to do and why would he? He's never experienced this as a player (because he wasn't one) and never as a manager. Honestly, it's so obvious to me why we are failing. [Post edited 22 Oct 13:02]
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| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 13:26 - Oct 22 with 677 views | Ifonly |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 13:01 - Oct 22 by Southamptonfan |
Exactly. And I do understand this lack of striker argument, and that recruitment has again been utter sh!t. But the same things were being said at Sheff Utd, who also couldn't score and who kept making individual mistakes. But the new experienced manager, who knows this league inside out has turned it around. Will Still hasn't a clue what to do and why would he? He's never experienced this as a player (because he wasn't one) and never as a manager. Honestly, it's so obvious to me why we are failing. [Post edited 22 Oct 13:02]
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Obviously the assistant manager Paul Trollope is there to provide experience of the league. Lallana too. The players too have massive experience of the league and all discussions between manager and players will be a dialogue about what works. It's not all one way.
I can't see that any of WS's decisions have gone wrong because of a lack of experience of the league, except maybe for his failure to recognise that we would need a centre forward if RS broke down. | | | |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 13:37 - Oct 22 with 658 views | Southamptonfan |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 13:26 - Oct 22 by Ifonly |
Obviously the assistant manager Paul Trollope is there to provide experience of the league. Lallana too. The players too have massive experience of the league and all discussions between manager and players will be a dialogue about what works. It's not all one way.
I can't see that any of WS's decisions have gone wrong because of a lack of experience of the league, except maybe for his failure to recognise that we would need a centre forward if RS broke down. |
He was manager when we bought Azaz, Fellows, Mads and so on. These were players we bought for about 30 million combined because last year they were good players at this level. Now he doesn't play them. Fellows got the most assists last season. Will Still hasn't got a clue what he is doing. Bring in top championship players and bench them. | |
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| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 13:44 - Oct 22 with 641 views | Ifonly |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 13:37 - Oct 22 by Southamptonfan |
He was manager when we bought Azaz, Fellows, Mads and so on. These were players we bought for about 30 million combined because last year they were good players at this level. Now he doesn't play them. Fellows got the most assists last season. Will Still hasn't got a clue what he is doing. Bring in top championship players and bench them. |
- Azaz has played poorly, so why keep him in the side?
- There's no point in playing Fellows if there is no one to cross to
- Mads is injured | | | |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 13:48 - Oct 22 with 631 views | Southamptonfan |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 13:44 - Oct 22 by Ifonly |
- Azaz has played poorly, so why keep him in the side?
- There's no point in playing Fellows if there is no one to cross to
- Mads is injured |
Will Still was totally out done by the Bristol manager last night. Totally exposed with no answers tactically.
So Azaz who we have only just bought because he was brilliant last season, is playing badly already, within a month? I wonder why?
No point in playing Fellows if there is no one to cross to? So why buy him and only have one injury prone striker who is tall?
Why do you think after spending 50 million on the team, we don't ever win? | |
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| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:01 - Oct 22 with 602 views | Ifonly |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 13:48 - Oct 22 by Southamptonfan |
Will Still was totally out done by the Bristol manager last night. Totally exposed with no answers tactically.
So Azaz who we have only just bought because he was brilliant last season, is playing badly already, within a month? I wonder why?
No point in playing Fellows if there is no one to cross to? So why buy him and only have one injury prone striker who is tall?
Why do you think after spending 50 million on the team, we don't ever win? |
I don't know why Azaz is playing badly and neither do you but it's ridiculous to just assume that it's WS's fault.
Why buy Fellows when we only have one injury prone CF? Totally agree, we shouldn't have bought him, we should have bought a CF as I said earlier.
I think WS should have done more last night, tried different things, but it's laughable to say he was totally exposed with no answers. The result was not mainly due to him as I've explained elsewhere. Could he have done more? Yes, but there were bigger factors in that result. Even just with fewer individual errors we could and should have won that game. | | | |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:10 - Oct 22 with 588 views | Southamptonfan |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:01 - Oct 22 by Ifonly |
I don't know why Azaz is playing badly and neither do you but it's ridiculous to just assume that it's WS's fault.
Why buy Fellows when we only have one injury prone CF? Totally agree, we shouldn't have bought him, we should have bought a CF as I said earlier.
I think WS should have done more last night, tried different things, but it's laughable to say he was totally exposed with no answers. The result was not mainly due to him as I've explained elsewhere. Could he have done more? Yes, but there were bigger factors in that result. Even just with fewer individual errors we could and should have won that game. |
There's so many mess ups.
Why give Jack Stephens a new 3 year contract, make him captain, only to drop him? There are about 3000 clips of him to know what he is like.
Why not just buy Mcburnie for far less, rather than spend 8 million on an unknown, inexperienced players who might be ok in 5 years time? Anything to do with our owners only interested in sell on values? Was the manager not knocking on the door and demanding they get him a striker? Our Will disagrees with you. He said we don't need a striker. Naive, weak, naive.
Why didnt they get a goalkeeper? Our Will, if he knew the game well, he would have been demanding it, and not just accepted we would go with Mccarthy.
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| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:20 - Oct 22 with 556 views | Ifonly |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:10 - Oct 22 by Southamptonfan |
There's so many mess ups.
Why give Jack Stephens a new 3 year contract, make him captain, only to drop him? There are about 3000 clips of him to know what he is like.
Why not just buy Mcburnie for far less, rather than spend 8 million on an unknown, inexperienced players who might be ok in 5 years time? Anything to do with our owners only interested in sell on values? Was the manager not knocking on the door and demanding they get him a striker? Our Will disagrees with you. He said we don't need a striker. Naive, weak, naive.
Why didnt they get a goalkeeper? Our Will, if he knew the game well, he would have been demanding it, and not just accepted we would go with Mccarthy.
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I mostly agree with you there, particularly about demanding a centre forward, as I've said.
Unfortunately, as you say, our owners are mostly interested in sell on values and that's a huge problem.
I also wanted us to sign a keeper, but I think it's more understandable there that WS didn't insist because he didn't have an opportunity to see them enough in real competition before the opportunity to find another one disappeared. In theory Baz and AM are a good 2 options and they did win promotion from this league just 2 years ago, so WS would have needed a lot of evidence to say to SR that they weren't good enough. I thinks it's understandable he didn't. Lets remember that after seeing Baz in competition for a bit, he dropped him. Same with Jack Stephens. [Post edited 22 Oct 14:23]
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| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:35 - Oct 22 with 524 views | Southamptonfan |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:20 - Oct 22 by Ifonly |
I mostly agree with you there, particularly about demanding a centre forward, as I've said.
Unfortunately, as you say, our owners are mostly interested in sell on values and that's a huge problem.
I also wanted us to sign a keeper, but I think it's more understandable there that WS didn't insist because he didn't have an opportunity to see them enough in real competition before the opportunity to find another one disappeared. In theory Baz and AM are a good 2 options and they did win promotion from this league just 2 years ago, so WS would have needed a lot of evidence to say to SR that they weren't good enough. I thinks it's understandable he didn't. Lets remember that after seeing Baz in competition for a bit, he dropped him. Same with Jack Stephens. [Post edited 22 Oct 14:23]
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Yes, but an experienced manager who had something about him surely saw clips of Stephens over the last 10 years, clips of the goalkeepers over the last 3 years, and he knew we got rid of Bazunu in the PL because he wasnt good enough and banished Mccarthy to the reserves many times. Did Still not raise this, or too naive and inexperienced?
And why do I think Will Still is just a weak, inexperienced yes man?
Well you know we have just agreed that we need a striker and 99 per cent of the fanbase said it in the summer, why did Will Still say he was happy with the strikers we have? Too scared to disagree with his bosses or genuinely thinks they are good enough?
Either way, that doesn't tell me he is strong manager who.knows what he is doing.
Any finally, why not play Robinson, the player who runs like crazy and scored at Ipswich? I could go on and on with the utter ridiculous decisons. [Post edited 22 Oct 14:40]
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| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:42 - Oct 22 with 504 views | Ifonly |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:35 - Oct 22 by Southamptonfan |
Yes, but an experienced manager who had something about him surely saw clips of Stephens over the last 10 years, clips of the goalkeepers over the last 3 years, and he knew we got rid of Bazunu in the PL because he wasnt good enough and banished Mccarthy to the reserves many times. Did Still not raise this, or too naive and inexperienced?
And why do I think Will Still is just a weak, inexperienced yes man?
Well you know we have just agreed that we need a striker and 99 per cent of the fanbase said it in the summer, why did Will Still say he was happy with the strikers we have? Too scared to disagree with his bosses or genuinely thinks they are good enough?
Either way, that doesn't tell me he is strong manager who.knows what he is doing.
Any finally, why not play Robinson, the player who runs like crazy and scored at Ipswich? I could go on and on with the utter ridiculous decisons. [Post edited 22 Oct 14:40]
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Again I think the striker thing was a mistake, but there's no evidence that he's weak. He clearly stated in the transfer window what type of players he wanted - and those are the ones we signed. I think he made the wrong choices (with little time available to assess players) but he clearly stated his decisions and those were acted on by the club.
What evidence have you got that he's weak? | | | |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:50 - Oct 22 with 489 views | saint22 |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 13:44 - Oct 22 by Ifonly |
- Azaz has played poorly, so why keep him in the side?
- There's no point in playing Fellows if there is no one to cross to
- Mads is injured |
Fellows doesn’t just provide crosses
He is the only one (bar Scienza) who drives forwards, moving the team upfield, attacks plays, draws foul
Still playing him as RWB is a joke | | | |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:53 - Oct 22 with 483 views | Southamptonfan |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:42 - Oct 22 by Ifonly |
Again I think the striker thing was a mistake, but there's no evidence that he's weak. He clearly stated in the transfer window what type of players he wanted - and those are the ones we signed. I think he made the wrong choices (with little time available to assess players) but he clearly stated his decisions and those were acted on by the club.
What evidence have you got that he's weak? |
Not demanding a goalkeeper, not demanding an experienced striker, agreeing to give Jack Stephens a new contract when clearly he doesn't rate him, continuing with this I am calm boll@x. Get angry with them I say. His press conferences, he just agrees with everything put to him and looks too nervous to put up any fight.
Ultimately, the proof is in the pudding. If his teams get bullied on the pitch, I am wondering about the manager. By bullied I mean that we concede one goal and collapse. They can't be that low in confidence, they are mostly new players! How can these players not be motivated for a south coast derby? The performance, especially first half was dreadful. It's Will Still's team now. Is he not motivating them, or has he sanctioned buying useless players? [Post edited 22 Oct 15:06]
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| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:55 - Oct 22 with 475 views | Ifonly |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:50 - Oct 22 by saint22 |
Fellows doesn’t just provide crosses
He is the only one (bar Scienza) who drives forwards, moving the team upfield, attacks plays, draws foul
Still playing him as RWB is a joke |
Yeah so as you've said you'd shift AA out of his natural position and move him to CF where he's terrible, so that Fellows can play there instead. With respect, I think that would be a really, really bad idea. | | | |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 17:07 - Oct 22 with 381 views | 1885_SFC |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:55 - Oct 22 by Ifonly |
Yeah so as you've said you'd shift AA out of his natural position and move him to CF where he's terrible, so that Fellows can play there instead. With respect, I think that would be a really, really bad idea. |
Fellows is a bloody good player - but we've already ruined his reputation and knocked his confidence for six.
When (eventually) Will Still does find his first choice settled eleven - Tom Fellows will be 100% be in it - as will Finn Azaz. They're both very good players... being managed badly at this moment in time. |  |
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| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 17:26 - Oct 22 with 350 views | Ifonly |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 17:07 - Oct 22 by 1885_SFC |
Fellows is a bloody good player - but we've already ruined his reputation and knocked his confidence for six.
When (eventually) Will Still does find his first choice settled eleven - Tom Fellows will be 100% be in it - as will Finn Azaz. They're both very good players... being managed badly at this moment in time. |
Saw this comment by a Boro fan which says what I suspect about Azaz:
"Boro fan here. The highlight reel for Finn Azaz will look great. A skillfull player who can unlock defences when given space and on form. However, he is extremely inconsistent and can often disappear in games. Last season, at Middlesbrough, he was at his best when Ben Doak was playing. The opposition often focussed on neutralising Doak and Azaz prospered (briefly). IMO, not worth the money paid by the Saints and a good bit of business by the Boro."
As with all players, the highlight reel is one thing, consistency is another (and with players like D Downs who doesn't even have a good highlights reel you really do have to worry...) | | | |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 17:32 - Oct 22 with 340 views | Ifonly |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 17:07 - Oct 22 by 1885_SFC |
Fellows is a bloody good player - but we've already ruined his reputation and knocked his confidence for six.
When (eventually) Will Still does find his first choice settled eleven - Tom Fellows will be 100% be in it - as will Finn Azaz. They're both very good players... being managed badly at this moment in time. |
I don't doubt that Fellows is a good player, but right now AA is our only goal scorer and only scores when playing wide. So, where would you play Fellows? | | | |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 17:59 - Oct 22 with 280 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 17:26 - Oct 22 by Ifonly |
Saw this comment by a Boro fan which says what I suspect about Azaz:
"Boro fan here. The highlight reel for Finn Azaz will look great. A skillfull player who can unlock defences when given space and on form. However, he is extremely inconsistent and can often disappear in games. Last season, at Middlesbrough, he was at his best when Ben Doak was playing. The opposition often focussed on neutralising Doak and Azaz prospered (briefly). IMO, not worth the money paid by the Saints and a good bit of business by the Boro."
As with all players, the highlight reel is one thing, consistency is another (and with players like D Downs who doesn't even have a good highlights reel you really do have to worry...) |
As he says, all those videos will show he best bits and I'd hate to think our "recruitment team" don't just rely on those. Surely someone must at least look at the player live! |  |
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| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 18:03 - Oct 22 with 258 views | saint22 |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 17:32 - Oct 22 by Ifonly |
I don't doubt that Fellows is a good player, but right now AA is our only goal scorer and only scores when playing wide. So, where would you play Fellows? |
I would play him at number 10 where he will cause problems and create chances - which hopefully AA can score
That wont happen with him beating people at RWB he is wasted there and as others have said his confidence is now taking a beating | | | |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 18:10 - Oct 22 with 238 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 14:10 - Oct 22 by Southamptonfan |
There's so many mess ups.
Why give Jack Stephens a new 3 year contract, make him captain, only to drop him? There are about 3000 clips of him to know what he is like.
Why not just buy Mcburnie for far less, rather than spend 8 million on an unknown, inexperienced players who might be ok in 5 years time? Anything to do with our owners only interested in sell on values? Was the manager not knocking on the door and demanding they get him a striker? Our Will disagrees with you. He said we don't need a striker. Naive, weak, naive.
Why didnt they get a goalkeeper? Our Will, if he knew the game well, he would have been demanding it, and not just accepted we would go with Mccarthy.
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I do wonder if Still did have any say in the recruitment once he arrived here? He did apparently say he was happy with his lot but was that from a script? I'm certainly not defending him based on the last few weeks (or earlier) performances and most of all team selections/substitutions, but it seems he is a yes man | |
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| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 18:16 - Oct 22 with 225 views | felly1 |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 12:52 - Oct 22 by PatfromPoole |
He knows the League. |
Maresca didn't but won it managing Leicester. | | | |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 18:31 - Oct 22 with 208 views | Ifonly |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 18:03 - Oct 22 by saint22 |
I would play him at number 10 where he will cause problems and create chances - which hopefully AA can score
That wont happen with him beating people at RWB he is wasted there and as others have said his confidence is now taking a beating |
So you've put Fellows at 10. Have you ever seen him play there before? Probably not right? He doesn't look like a 10 to me. Not so easy to switch from being a winger to a 10, particularly if he has no experience of the role. But OK, if we assume he plays there then it means no space for Azaz in your team right? | | | |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 21:56 - Oct 22 with 89 views | hedgeend61 |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 18:31 - Oct 22 by Ifonly |
So you've put Fellows at 10. Have you ever seen him play there before? Probably not right? He doesn't look like a 10 to me. Not so easy to switch from being a winger to a 10, particularly if he has no experience of the role. But OK, if we assume he plays there then it means no space for Azaz in your team right? |
Fella, Nobbys never seen any play at the stadium, note his general 10-15 posts of dribble every game from the Millbronx gaff
He does make us have a bubble baff though |  | | |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 22:00 - Oct 22 with 80 views | Southamptonfan |
| Sheffield United Turn It Around With Wilder on 18:03 - Oct 22 by saint22 |
I would play him at number 10 where he will cause problems and create chances - which hopefully AA can score
That wont happen with him beating people at RWB he is wasted there and as others have said his confidence is now taking a beating |
I agree with you Saint22. We bought Fellows and Azaz to help us create chances and score goals for a lot of money. They should be playing in the team. If Will Still didnt have room to fit them in the team, he should have halted the transfers and saved the 25 million. [Post edited 22 Oct 22:02]
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