| Autumn statement on Thursday 18:33 - Nov 15 with 8492 views | britferry |
Are you looking forward to it?
Predicted:
an extra £100 on your annual council tax bill
hundreds of pounds more income tax
energy bills up by £1,000 a year
pensions triple lock secured
benefits will go up by 10%
minimum wage will hit £10.40 an hour
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 18:50 - Nov 15 with 3553 views | Gwyn737 |
Genuinely frightened from a professional point of view.
I already know the impact of the unfunded pay rises (those posters in England can find their local school here https://schoolcuts.org.uk/ - Wales’ site hasn’t been updated yet.
This is before our fixed energy tariff is up in April which will se a £51k annual rise and whatever savings are introduced on Thursday.
There’s a real chance the system will collapse. | | | |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 19:54 - Nov 15 with 3522 views | britferry |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 18:50 - Nov 15 by Gwyn737 |
Genuinely frightened from a professional point of view.
I already know the impact of the unfunded pay rises (those posters in England can find their local school here https://schoolcuts.org.uk/ - Wales’ site hasn’t been updated yet.
This is before our fixed energy tariff is up in April which will se a £51k annual rise and whatever savings are introduced on Thursday.
There’s a real chance the system will collapse. |
I know, from that image I included, you work hard as a youngster, you get a well paid job, you marry, get a nice home with kids and you get hammered, isn't that the heart of the Tory faithful? | |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 20:12 - Nov 15 with 3513 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
When free money was being chucked about in the Pandemic, most people said we'll end up paying for it......we'll get the bill on Thursday. |  |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 20:17 - Nov 15 with 3507 views | Dr_Winston |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 20:12 - Nov 15 by JACKMANANDBOY |
When free money was being chucked about in the Pandemic, most people said we'll end up paying for it......we'll get the bill on Thursday. |
Yep.
There's no such thing as "Government money". It's taxpayers money. Nothing is ever free from any level of Govt. Someone always has to pay for it. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 20:25 - Nov 15 with 3505 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 20:17 - Nov 15 by Dr_Winston |
Yep.
There's no such thing as "Government money". It's taxpayers money. Nothing is ever free from any level of Govt. Someone always has to pay for it. |
The idea that we should borrow more because interest rates were low was always going to meet the reality of what happens when you throw loads of cash at an economy with supply contraints. | |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 21:00 - Nov 15 with 3480 views | ItchySphincter |
Where’s dgt and the Brexit boys? This is exactly what they wanted, isn’t it? Democracy see. |  |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 22:22 - Nov 15 with 3436 views | Catullus |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 21:00 - Nov 15 by ItchySphincter |
Where’s dgt and the Brexit boys? This is exactly what they wanted, isn’t it? Democracy see. |
You're not putting this all down to brexit again are you? Covid, the Ukraine war...surely you arent still suffering that tunnel vision? Not forgettting the damage Truss and Kwarteng did either mind.
I genuinely feel sorry for those already suffering financially who will also be hit hit by this statement. Personally, I changed jobs recenty, I had a small pay rise but the biggest gain was the slashing of my petrol costs. We can afford a bit of a hit but that doesn't mean I like it.
You can dislike the result of any democratic choice and to any extent that pleases you but ts still better than the aternatives, just ask Zelensky, the Uighurs in China and many others. being able to make a choice, even if it's a bad choice is still better than a dictatorship. | |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 07:54 - Nov 16 with 3353 views | YrAlarch |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 20:12 - Nov 15 by JACKMANANDBOY |
When free money was being chucked about in the Pandemic, most people said we'll end up paying for it......we'll get the bill on Thursday. |
Yes. Sunak's 'Eat out to help out' nonsense was a prime example. | | | |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 08:15 - Nov 16 with 3347 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 07:54 - Nov 16 by YrAlarch |
Yes. Sunak's 'Eat out to help out' nonsense was a prime example. |
Sounds more like a porno film than a government incentive. |  |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 08:42 - Nov 16 with 3339 views | ItchySphincter |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 22:22 - Nov 15 by Catullus |
You're not putting this all down to brexit again are you? Covid, the Ukraine war...surely you arent still suffering that tunnel vision? Not forgettting the damage Truss and Kwarteng did either mind.
I genuinely feel sorry for those already suffering financially who will also be hit hit by this statement. Personally, I changed jobs recenty, I had a small pay rise but the biggest gain was the slashing of my petrol costs. We can afford a bit of a hit but that doesn't mean I like it.
You can dislike the result of any democratic choice and to any extent that pleases you but ts still better than the aternatives, just ask Zelensky, the Uighurs in China and many others. being able to make a choice, even if it's a bad choice is still better than a dictatorship. |
Even the staunchest Brexiteers are saying it’s been an unmitigated disaster, and I’m not saying that covid and Ukraine hasn’t compounded the issue, but you show me one first world country that’s been hit as hard as us since your lot handed the keys to the kingdom to the ERG.
Man up, and admit that what you did ‘for your son’ has done nothing but hand him a worse future than your past. Accept it and work to fix it. | |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 12:06 - Nov 16 with 3277 views | Scotia |
It's as much Trussonomics and Ukraine that's the problem as Covid. I have no problem in paying back the covid bill, I would also gladly pay some more to improve social care.
My Wife works with too many receipients of benefits who already have safes stacked with cash (seriously) to rejoice at an across the board increase in those. Obviously this isn't the case for the majority but it does get my goat.
I was incredibly lucky to secure my final fixed rate on my mortage of 3.3% a few weeks ago, thanks to Liz and Kwarzi if I secured the same mortgae today I'd be £125 a month worse off.
Surely it can't be all bad tomorrow - the Tories are too far behind in the polls. | | | |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 13:40 - Nov 16 with 3242 views | Sandanista |
According to 'The Telegraph', on in four pensioners are millionaires. Surely the protection pensioners get needs to be properly means tested? I'm not buying the argument of 'worked hard all their lives" as plenty of people still are to subsidise them and will never receive the same level of benefit. Not even close. | | | |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 14:46 - Nov 16 with 3220 views | trampie |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 13:40 - Nov 16 by Sandanista |
According to 'The Telegraph', on in four pensioners are millionaires. Surely the protection pensioners get needs to be properly means tested? I'm not buying the argument of 'worked hard all their lives" as plenty of people still are to subsidise them and will never receive the same level of benefit. Not even close. |
I seem to remember this story when it broke a few years ago and it was all nonsense as it counted people living in households worth a million - everybody's wealth (did it count grown up children living at home wealth ?), the value of the property, the value of their pension pots etc etc
If there was two pensioner's in a house and the house, their savings and their pensions came to a million smack on if I remember they counted both of them as millionaires and not each of them worth 500k but both millionaires, can't be arsed to check but it's stretching it to say 1 in 4 pensioner's are millionaires I would be more inclined to believe there are more pensioner's in relative poverty than there are pensioner millionaires. |  |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:01 - Nov 16 with 3210 views | Sandanista |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 14:46 - Nov 16 by trampie |
I seem to remember this story when it broke a few years ago and it was all nonsense as it counted people living in households worth a million - everybody's wealth (did it count grown up children living at home wealth ?), the value of the property, the value of their pension pots etc etc
If there was two pensioner's in a house and the house, their savings and their pensions came to a million smack on if I remember they counted both of them as millionaires and not each of them worth 500k but both millionaires, can't be arsed to check but it's stretching it to say 1 in 4 pensioner's are millionaires I would be more inclined to believe there are more pensioner's in relative poverty than there are pensioner millionaires. |
Depends where you are though Trampie. Of course it's total assets, but there are many very comfortably off indeed who will be spared the burden and retain the triple lock on pensions a twenty or thirty something can only dream of. | | | |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:14 - Nov 16 with 3193 views | trampie |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:01 - Nov 16 by Sandanista |
Depends where you are though Trampie. Of course it's total assets, but there are many very comfortably off indeed who will be spared the burden and retain the triple lock on pensions a twenty or thirty something can only dream of. |
To introduce means testing for the old age pension then in my view the only way to do it is to say everybody born after today will be means tested.
It would be unfair to move the goalposts now for people that have planned to receive their old age pension (and paid into the current system for decades), hence all the recent fuss with females old age pension age jumping up from 60 as women hadn't factored this into their plans, the result was lots of them would have made different life choices, in many cases they would not have retired when they did if they knew they could not have their state pension at 60 etc. | |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:16 - Nov 16 with 3188 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
The average house price in SE England is about £550K. A terraced house in London averages £800K. | |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:20 - Nov 16 with 3175 views | trampie |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:16 - Nov 16 by JACKMANANDBOY |
The average house price in SE England is about £550K. A terraced house in London averages £800K. |
I used to work with a guy that used to tell people when they used to say their house is worth X amount, that their house is worthless because if they sold it they would have to live in a cardboard box on the pavement. | |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:23 - Nov 16 with 3167 views | Scotia |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:20 - Nov 16 by trampie |
I used to work with a guy that used to tell people when they used to say their house is worth X amount, that their house is worthless because if they sold it they would have to live in a cardboard box on the pavement. |
He sounds a bit daft. | | | |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:28 - Nov 16 with 3165 views | gadgetuk |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:16 - Nov 16 by JACKMANANDBOY |
The average house price in SE England is about £550K. A terraced house in London averages £800K. |
Three bed semi-detached in our area averages £650k | | | |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:36 - Nov 16 with 3163 views | jojaca |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 08:42 - Nov 16 by ItchySphincter |
Even the staunchest Brexiteers are saying it’s been an unmitigated disaster, and I’m not saying that covid and Ukraine hasn’t compounded the issue, but you show me one first world country that’s been hit as hard as us since your lot handed the keys to the kingdom to the ERG.
Man up, and admit that what you did ‘for your son’ has done nothing but hand him a worse future than your past. Accept it and work to fix it. |
I've not heard Brexit mentioned in conversation since pre Covid days especially partial blame for the economy for last two years. I thought it was kind of obvious why the economy sucks now, doesn't need explaining. [Post edited 16 Nov 2022 15:37]
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:50 - Nov 16 with 3145 views | Whiterockin |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 13:40 - Nov 16 by Sandanista |
According to 'The Telegraph', on in four pensioners are millionaires. Surely the protection pensioners get needs to be properly means tested? I'm not buying the argument of 'worked hard all their lives" as plenty of people still are to subsidise them and will never receive the same level of benefit. Not even close. |
I suggest that you go up the Welsh valleys and test your claim with the locals. Good luck. |  | | |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 16:11 - Nov 16 with 3117 views | trampie |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 15:23 - Nov 16 by Scotia |
He sounds a bit daft. |
He had a valid point, you have to live somewhere and even for those living in high value property parts of the country, selling up to move to another region might not be viable due to work, family, children etc. | |
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 16:46 - Nov 16 with 3085 views | builthjack |
Let's see what the rich get tomorrow.
It's usually ordinary folk who end up paying for everything. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Autumn statement on Thursday on 16:49 - Nov 16 with 3083 views | Scotia |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 16:11 - Nov 16 by trampie |
He had a valid point, you have to live somewhere and even for those living in high value property parts of the country, selling up to move to another region might not be viable due to work, family, children etc. |
No he didn't. Its nonsense.
You do have to live somewhere but someone with a more expensive property has far more choice.
Once my daughter moves out we will downsize and hopefully be able to put her through university on the difference in property value. | | | |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 16:52 - Nov 16 with 3085 views | Sandanista |
| Autumn statement on Thursday on 16:11 - Nov 16 by trampie |
He had a valid point, you have to live somewhere and even for those living in high value property parts of the country, selling up to move to another region might not be viable due to work, family, children etc. |
This is pensioners though Trampie- they can release equity in a house if need be, and it would make sense for government to support this. Why should a 25 year old on average wage pay yet more tax to support those in absolute comfort. As it is most workers are subsiding the retired on final salary schemes with higher contributions and greatly reduced benefit. This is the crux of the forthcoming University strike-young staff paying near double the pension for half the benefit. Same in many areas-OHL has mentioned this with his son-in-law v his police pension.
It's not going to impact someone in a valleys terrace, but would for someone with a big house and 40K pa pension. | | | |
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