| A selling club without real ambition 23:22 - Aug 24 with 10011 views | swancity |
Is that we have become?
I thought these owners were “going to take the club to the next level ? “
You can’t blame young promising managers like Steve Cooper and Russell Martin for wanting to get away.
Get out and spend that £12m on new players …at least give the manager a chance . |  |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 15:10 - Aug 27 with 1613 views | lifelong |
| A selling club without real ambition on 14:56 - Aug 27 by onehunglow |
So,you are a footballer living in a nice ,large houser apartment ,well away from the “ plebs” and earning 250k pa.
Kids are in private school,wife has the required bling,Audi/Beemer on the drive.
Cleaners,gardeners,handy men look after your domestic chores
Holidays in exotic places and no worries about health care.
Then,along comes an offer of 750 k pa with a sponsored car, international / private school for the kids and unlimited flights home ( if offer from abroad) .
Don’t anyone tell me the player doesn’t sit down with wifey and they take all of ten minutes to decide to offski .
Money of that size is more attractive than any beach,lake,mountain or shopping mall. |
These days £750 grand a year is about average for championship players. |  | | |
| A selling club without real ambition on 15:25 - Aug 27 with 1599 views | Whiterockin |
| A selling club without real ambition on 14:56 - Aug 27 by onehunglow |
So,you are a footballer living in a nice ,large houser apartment ,well away from the “ plebs” and earning 250k pa.
Kids are in private school,wife has the required bling,Audi/Beemer on the drive.
Cleaners,gardeners,handy men look after your domestic chores
Holidays in exotic places and no worries about health care.
Then,along comes an offer of 750 k pa with a sponsored car, international / private school for the kids and unlimited flights home ( if offer from abroad) .
Don’t anyone tell me the player doesn’t sit down with wifey and they take all of ten minutes to decide to offski .
Money of that size is more attractive than any beach,lake,mountain or shopping mall. |
If you are talking about Grimes, his earnings are already close to double the £750K pa you mentioned. Some players know how much is enough and family life is far more important. Trust me Grimes is one. |  | | |
| A selling club without real ambition on 15:29 - Aug 27 with 1588 views | RhonddaSwans |
Even in the Premiership we were a selling club (Scott Sinclair, Boney , siggy , Williams, Dyer on loan)
We have a small stadium all clubs are selling clubs.
As for ambition its critical!
Its wrote outside the train station.
Duff at Barnsley didn't start going untill October after the same early signs of here.
We will come good if we get Kenan and Panzo its HMS piss the League.
Remember bucket collections for Leon Britton!
Remember the Vetch
Remember playing Hull and James Thomas
Remember Roger Freestone
Remember Walter Boyds red card
Remember our first game at the Liberty
Remember losing to Barnsley League one play offs
Remember Lee Trundle Leaving
Remember Jason Scotlands goals
Remember Wembley V Reading
Remember 7 years at the top
Remember winning the League cup
Remember Europe
Never forget little old Swansea have had years punching at a high level.
Im sure if I could go back in time to the North Banc with our next 15 years .
When we were playing Hull not a single person there would of believed it.
We are known for getting behind OUR LADS NO MATTER WHAT!
We are slowly becoming the spoilt CHILD of football fans.
Duff has done miracles with smaller budgets than ours.
Its against all odds.
We are not twitter fair weather fans!
We ARE JACK BASTARDS WE WILL RISE AGAIN! | |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 15:31 - Aug 27 with 1571 views | onehunglow |
| A selling club without real ambition on 15:25 - Aug 27 by Whiterockin |
If you are talking about Grimes, his earnings are already close to double the £750K pa you mentioned. Some players know how much is enough and family life is far more important. Trust me Grimes is one. |
I ll revise the figures for future debate | |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 15:32 - Aug 27 with 1574 views | Whiterockin |
| A selling club without real ambition on 15:29 - Aug 27 by RhonddaSwans |
Even in the Premiership we were a selling club (Scott Sinclair, Boney , siggy , Williams, Dyer on loan)
We have a small stadium all clubs are selling clubs.
As for ambition its critical!
Its wrote outside the train station.
Duff at Barnsley didn't start going untill October after the same early signs of here.
We will come good if we get Kenan and Panzo its HMS piss the League.
Remember bucket collections for Leon Britton!
Remember the Vetch
Remember playing Hull and James Thomas
Remember Roger Freestone
Remember Walter Boyds red card
Remember our first game at the Liberty
Remember losing to Barnsley League one play offs
Remember Lee Trundle Leaving
Remember Jason Scotlands goals
Remember Wembley V Reading
Remember 7 years at the top
Remember winning the League cup
Remember Europe
Never forget little old Swansea have had years punching at a high level.
Im sure if I could go back in time to the North Banc with our next 15 years .
When we were playing Hull not a single person there would of believed it.
We are known for getting behind OUR LADS NO MATTER WHAT!
We are slowly becoming the spoilt CHILD of football fans.
Duff has done miracles with smaller budgets than ours.
Its against all odds.
We are not twitter fair weather fans!
We ARE JACK BASTARDS WE WILL RISE AGAIN! |
If you remember Dyer out on loan had nothing to do with money. | | | |
| A selling club without real ambition on 15:35 - Aug 27 with 1537 views | onehunglow |
| A selling club without real ambition on 15:32 - Aug 27 by Whiterockin |
If you remember Dyer out on loan had nothing to do with money. |
Can I send you my homework to mark?
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| A selling club without real ambition on 15:39 - Aug 27 with 1529 views | Whiterockin |
| A selling club without real ambition on 15:35 - Aug 27 by onehunglow |
Can I send you my homework to mark?
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If you're prepared to fail.  | | | |
| A selling club without real ambition on 15:41 - Aug 27 with 1511 views | onehunglow |
| A selling club without real ambition on 15:39 - Aug 27 by Whiterockin |
If you're prepared to fail. |
I’m always right . | |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 15:44 - Aug 27 with 1499 views | Whiterockin |
| A selling club without real ambition on 15:41 - Aug 27 by onehunglow |
I’m always right . |
Apparently not. | | | |
| A selling club without real ambition on 16:00 - Aug 27 with 1477 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| A selling club without real ambition on 15:29 - Aug 27 by RhonddaSwans |
Even in the Premiership we were a selling club (Scott Sinclair, Boney , siggy , Williams, Dyer on loan)
We have a small stadium all clubs are selling clubs.
As for ambition its critical!
Its wrote outside the train station.
Duff at Barnsley didn't start going untill October after the same early signs of here.
We will come good if we get Kenan and Panzo its HMS piss the League.
Remember bucket collections for Leon Britton!
Remember the Vetch
Remember playing Hull and James Thomas
Remember Roger Freestone
Remember Walter Boyds red card
Remember our first game at the Liberty
Remember losing to Barnsley League one play offs
Remember Lee Trundle Leaving
Remember Jason Scotlands goals
Remember Wembley V Reading
Remember 7 years at the top
Remember winning the League cup
Remember Europe
Never forget little old Swansea have had years punching at a high level.
Im sure if I could go back in time to the North Banc with our next 15 years .
When we were playing Hull not a single person there would of believed it.
We are known for getting behind OUR LADS NO MATTER WHAT!
We are slowly becoming the spoilt CHILD of football fans.
Duff has done miracles with smaller budgets than ours.
Its against all odds.
We are not twitter fair weather fans!
We ARE JACK BASTARDS WE WILL RISE AGAIN! |
The owner are on the same side as the fans who are follow owners.
Fans (who are owners) want to uncouple because they do not want responsibility like a runaway father. Fans at Swansea cannot be blameless they own 11% of the club.
Fans whinge and like someone to blame. Self appraisal is not on their menu. Swansea fans supported the ultimate betrayal (suing the other owners). Like most things they do it was total failure.
The owners excluding fans have invested in players cash and recruitment staff. [Post edited 27 Aug 2023 16:05]
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| A selling club without real ambition on 16:08 - Aug 27 with 1476 views | raynor94 |
| A selling club without real ambition on 12:18 - Aug 27 by BillyChong |
Unless you live on the moon it’s clear that we sell a star player every window. Grimes is the only exception to this although it’s dubious how strong any rumoured interest in him has been. A firm bid and he’d be long gone. |
But that's no different to other clubs of our size.
The important bit is how we spend the money, so far I think Watson has done a good job.
I think we will see more arrivals this week |  |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 16:20 - Aug 27 with 1443 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| A selling club without real ambition on 16:08 - Aug 27 by raynor94 |
But that's no different to other clubs of our size.
The important bit is how we spend the money, so far I think Watson has done a good job.
I think we will see more arrivals this week |
The trick is to sell a highly priced player and people like for like.
Swansea needs a developer manager,. A manager that can develop the like of Cullen Azeem Cooper and the new young guys Kukharevich and Njoe A One.
Swansea need to keep staff longer like Watson and academy people. Long termers lie Anthony Wright. | |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 16:42 - Aug 27 with 1413 views | lifelong |
| A selling club without real ambition on 15:31 - Aug 27 by onehunglow |
I ll revise the figures for future debate |
Just to rub salt in the wound, Fisher is almost on 750 grand a year..apparently. | | | |
| A selling club without real ambition on 16:43 - Aug 27 with 1409 views | onehunglow |
| A selling club without real ambition on 16:20 - Aug 27 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The trick is to sell a highly priced player and people like for like.
Swansea needs a developer manager,. A manager that can develop the like of Cullen Azeem Cooper and the new young guys Kukharevich and Njoe A One.
Swansea need to keep staff longer like Watson and academy people. Long termers lie Anthony Wright. |
Good post | |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 17:26 - Aug 27 with 1384 views | SullutaCreturned |
| A selling club without real ambition on 16:43 - Aug 27 by onehunglow |
Good post |
Really? Didn't mention the trust or thick Swansea fans? Quelle surprise.
I've said before, every club is a selling club when the price is right. Even Man City and Real Madrid will sell when they offer is high enough.
One of our problems is that some fans have unrealistic expectations about what we can afford, both to spend AND refuse. | | | |
| A selling club without real ambition on 18:34 - Aug 27 with 1336 views | onehunglow |
| A selling club without real ambition on 17:26 - Aug 27 by SullutaCreturned |
Really? Didn't mention the trust or thick Swansea fans? Quelle surprise.
I've said before, every club is a selling club when the price is right. Even Man City and Real Madrid will sell when they offer is high enough.
One of our problems is that some fans have unrealistic expectations about what we can afford, both to spend AND refuse. |
Yep, thought it was fair comment | |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 20:23 - Aug 28 with 1145 views | swancity |
| A selling club without real ambition on 17:26 - Aug 27 by SullutaCreturned |
Really? Didn't mention the trust or thick Swansea fans? Quelle surprise.
I've said before, every club is a selling club when the price is right. Even Man City and Real Madrid will sell when they offer is high enough.
One of our problems is that some fans have unrealistic expectations about what we can afford, both to spend AND refuse. |
I think you’ve missed the point
Of course every player has a price. It’s what happens to the income after the sale is key. The clubs you’ve referred to use the money to supplement further improvements, constantly looking to strengthen. We are now looking to sell whilst not reinvesting the money on the team. | |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 20:36 - Aug 28 with 1107 views | max936 |
How much money has come through the Liberty's doors in these last 3/4 months in "investment" and for those deluded ones amongst us, new people coming into the club after buying shares off existing share holders is NOT investment into the club?
And how much have we received for players sold? |  |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 21:24 - Aug 28 with 1059 views | Fireboy2 |
| A selling club without real ambition on 16:00 - Aug 27 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The owner are on the same side as the fans who are follow owners.
Fans (who are owners) want to uncouple because they do not want responsibility like a runaway father. Fans at Swansea cannot be blameless they own 11% of the club.
Fans whinge and like someone to blame. Self appraisal is not on their menu. Swansea fans supported the ultimate betrayal (suing the other owners). Like most things they do it was total failure.
The owners excluding fans have invested in players cash and recruitment staff. [Post edited 27 Aug 2023 16:05]
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Unwarranted dig there, out of order. |  | | |
| A selling club without real ambition on 22:02 - Aug 28 with 1030 views | magicdaps10 |
| A selling club without real ambition on 20:36 - Aug 28 by max936 |
How much money has come through the Liberty's doors in these last 3/4 months in "investment" and for those deluded ones amongst us, new people coming into the club after buying shares off existing share holders is NOT investment into the club?
And how much have we received for players sold? |
The wool was pulled over our eyes with early business.
Some fell for it and are still playing on it with bling ignorance.
The board have a few days to back up what they have said all summer and it's starting to concern me that they have bent us over and sent us all down wally world with no ticket. |  |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 22:29 - Aug 28 with 1000 views | max936 |
| A selling club without real ambition on 22:02 - Aug 28 by magicdaps10 |
The wool was pulled over our eyes with early business.
Some fell for it and are still playing on it with bling ignorance.
The board have a few days to back up what they have said all summer and it's starting to concern me that they have bent us over and sent us all down wally world with no ticket. |
Its not over until its over, we got until 23:30 on Thursday 31st mun. | |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 22:39 - Aug 28 with 996 views | magicdaps10 |
| A selling club without real ambition on 22:29 - Aug 28 by max936 |
Its not over until its over, we got until 23:30 on Thursday 31st mun. |
Hope you're right and they deliver atleast the minimum required. | |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 22:53 - Aug 28 with 977 views | raynor94 |
| A selling club without real ambition on 22:29 - Aug 28 by max936 |
Its not over until its over, we got until 23:30 on Thursday 31st mun. |
Exactly Max, let's at least wait until the window slams shut, before we hang anybody out to dry | |
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| A selling club without real ambition on 23:03 - Aug 28 with 966 views | Fireboy2 |
I'm not worried at all, if we get Davis in we have a striker who has pace, we have ginnelly to come back and the big Ukrainian put his hand up after an eventful 10 minutes on Saturday.
If we sell wood I'm certain we will get another centre half in to replace him. | | | |
| A selling club without real ambition on 10:12 - Aug 29 with 871 views | onehunglow |
| A selling club without real ambition on 23:03 - Aug 28 by Fireboy2 |
I'm not worried at all, if we get Davis in we have a striker who has pace, we have ginnelly to come back and the big Ukrainian put his hand up after an eventful 10 minutes on Saturday.
If we sell wood I'm certain we will get another centre half in to replace him. |
“ certain “ then . | |
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