| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:22 - Apr 9 with 1898 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:16 - Apr 9 by James1980 |
Do you think hearing the name of a striker who is on the bench and the biggest applause he hears linked to his name is when he was substituted is going to encourage him though. |
Actually, sorry, the singing of Bird’s name when Mitchell started a few weeks ago when we were in good form was poor, er, form. |  |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:22 - Apr 9 with 1901 views | TalkingSutty |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 16:46 - Apr 9 by James1980 |
Would that be the same Mitchell who has not exactly been encouraged by sections of our fanbase lately?
Last 5 NL PO winning managers
Woodman
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You missed six managers off that list James, is there a reason for that? One manager has won promotion with two different clubs. Thanks. [Post edited 9 Apr 17:43]
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:43 - Apr 9 with 1796 views | James1980 |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:22 - Apr 9 by TalkingSutty |
You missed six managers off that list James, is there a reason for that? One manager has won promotion with two different clubs. Thanks. [Post edited 9 Apr 17:43]
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It's a work in progress |  |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:43 - Apr 9 with 1789 views | TalkingSutty |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:43 - Apr 9 by James1980 |
It's a work in progress |
Explains why trains are always late. | | | |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:48 - Apr 9 with 1756 views | D_Alien |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:16 - Apr 9 by James1980 |
Do you think hearing the name of a striker who is on the bench and the biggest applause he hears linked to his name is when he was substituted is going to encourage him though. |
You do realise he's being paid an amount of money that most young(ish) men his age can only dream about, for doing something he presumably enjoys?
Fan encouragement is of course great but if he has the slightest inclination to put in less than 100% he's not only at the wrong club, but in the wrong profession
Said so at the time, but "No Kairo, No Party" is, and was, just bollocks |  |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:50 - Apr 9 with 1732 views | James1980 |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:43 - Apr 9 by TalkingSutty |
Explains why trains are always late. |
Very good lol
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:59 - Apr 9 with 1696 views | James1980 |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:48 - Apr 9 by D_Alien |
You do realise he's being paid an amount of money that most young(ish) men his age can only dream about, for doing something he presumably enjoys?
Fan encouragement is of course great but if he has the slightest inclination to put in less than 100% he's not only at the wrong club, but in the wrong profession
Said so at the time, but "No Kairo, No Party" is, and was, just bollocks |
Far better players have dips in form they get paid eye watering sums | |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 18:23 - Apr 9 with 1629 views | dingdangblue |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:16 - Apr 9 by James1980 |
Do you think hearing the name of a striker who is on the bench and the biggest applause he hears linked to his name is when he was substituted is going to encourage him though. |
And there's a way of shoving that back down the fans throats and saying ' shut up' - and that is to play better and try harder than the other guy and finish easy chances like last night! |  |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 18:34 - Apr 9 with 1589 views | BillyRudd |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:59 - Apr 9 by James1980 |
Far better players have dips in form they get paid eye watering sums |
He has,nt had a dip in form. He has always been lacking the attributes of a forward player. As another contributor posted, the majority of his early season goals came from tap ins from goal line crosses.When they dried up, so did his goals. He,s the easiest opposition an opposing centre half gets all season. I find the notion of him being wanted by a league team laughable. | | | |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 18:55 - Apr 9 with 1489 views | TalkingSutty |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:50 - Apr 9 by James1980 |
Very good lol
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Thanks for that. | | | |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 18:57 - Apr 9 with 1480 views | James1980 |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 18:55 - Apr 9 by TalkingSutty |
Thanks for that. |
Which name did you think I was omitting? | |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:05 - Apr 9 with 1460 views | D_Alien |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 17:59 - Apr 9 by James1980 |
Far better players have dips in form they get paid eye watering sums |
You were implying his lack of potency in front of goal was down to lack of fan encouragement
I was simply puting you straight on that score... or failure to score | |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:17 - Apr 9 with 1395 views | James1980 |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:05 - Apr 9 by D_Alien |
You were implying his lack of potency in front of goal was down to lack of fan encouragement
I was simply puting you straight on that score... or failure to score |
But why mention what might be earning? And it wasn't lack of encouragement it was fans actively letting him know they wanted another striker on the pitch and effectively cheering him being substituted | |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:42 - Apr 9 with 1302 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:17 - Apr 9 by James1980 |
But why mention what might be earning? And it wasn't lack of encouragement it was fans actively letting him know they wanted another striker on the pitch and effectively cheering him being substituted |
Irrespective of a player’s form or even that of the team (we’d just beaten Altrincham in the cup the game before and Bird had played well but was then rested), the reaction with the constant singing was pretty rubbish.
That’s all it is and has nothing to do with the bigger picture. | |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:42 - Apr 9 with 1300 views | D_Alien |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:17 - Apr 9 by James1980 |
But why mention what might be earning? And it wasn't lack of encouragement it was fans actively letting him know they wanted another striker on the pitch and effectively cheering him being substituted |
The fans who're turning up are, in the vast majority of cases, getting by in a difficult financial environment and when spending their time and cash want to see someone who's being paid multiples of their income justifying it
That's how it's always been at Dale. If you didn't know that before, you do now
Becoming a pro footballer has potentially huge rewards, but there's a downside too. The same goes for becoming a manager
No-one turns up to be negative (although some may jump on that opportunity sooner than others) but when we've had to endure the ignominy of nearly going out of existence and the loss of our 100+ years status as a football league club, we're desperate for signs that a corner has been turned. It really, really matters and therefore understandable that emotions run higher than some players may be able to cope with; managers too [Post edited 9 Apr 19:45]
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:46 - Apr 9 with 1267 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:42 - Apr 9 by D_Alien |
The fans who're turning up are, in the vast majority of cases, getting by in a difficult financial environment and when spending their time and cash want to see someone who's being paid multiples of their income justifying it
That's how it's always been at Dale. If you didn't know that before, you do now
Becoming a pro footballer has potentially huge rewards, but there's a downside too. The same goes for becoming a manager
No-one turns up to be negative (although some may jump on that opportunity sooner than others) but when we've had to endure the ignominy of nearly going out of existence and the loss of our 100+ years status as a football league club, we're desperate for signs that a corner has been turned. It really, really matters and therefore understandable that emotions run higher than some players may be able to cope with; managers too [Post edited 9 Apr 19:45]
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See above. The incident to which I believe James refers is nothing about emotions running high. It was some wanting Bird on as soon as possible when leaving him on the bench due to his lack of match fitness made sense.
It came across as petty on the night and was mentioned on here at the time. | |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:48 - Apr 9 with 1248 views | D_Alien |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:46 - Apr 9 by 442Dale |
See above. The incident to which I believe James refers is nothing about emotions running high. It was some wanting Bird on as soon as possible when leaving him on the bench due to his lack of match fitness made sense.
It came across as petty on the night and was mentioned on here at the time. |
It's therefore about emotions running high in wanting someone on the pitch who - rightly or wrongly - those fans making a noise believe will help us a win a game | |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:58 - Apr 9 with 1202 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 19:48 - Apr 9 by D_Alien |
It's therefore about emotions running high in wanting someone on the pitch who - rightly or wrongly - those fans making a noise believe will help us a win a game |
Having endured it on the evening it was just petty and not helping anyone at that time.
It achieved as much as chucking a toilet seat about at Halifax, which could also be put down to emotions running high. | |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 20:36 - Apr 9 with 1068 views | TalkingSutty |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 18:57 - Apr 9 by James1980 |
Which name did you think I was omitting? |
None, i was wondering when Steve Evans won promotion to the football league as manager of Boston and Crawley. It was more than eleven years ago. I should have asked TVOS 😉 [Post edited 9 Apr 20:43]
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 20:44 - Apr 9 with 1036 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 20:36 - Apr 9 by TalkingSutty |
None, i was wondering when Steve Evans won promotion to the football league as manager of Boston and Crawley. It was more than eleven years ago. I should have asked TVOS 😉 [Post edited 9 Apr 20:43]
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Boston was 2002, Crawley 2011. Apart from one L2 promotion at Stevenage he’s been rubbish for the last decade.
And his assistant is even worse. | |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 20:47 - Apr 9 with 1024 views | TVOS1907 |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 20:44 - Apr 9 by 442Dale |
Boston was 2002, Crawley 2011. Apart from one L2 promotion at Stevenage he’s been rubbish for the last decade.
And his assistant is even worse. |
I haven't got an assistant. |  |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 20:48 - Apr 9 with 1013 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 20:47 - Apr 9 by TVOS1907 |
I haven't got an assistant. |
Well if you ever do, don’t choose a horrible ex Preston winger. | |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 20:48 - Apr 9 with 1008 views | TalkingSutty |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 20:44 - Apr 9 by 442Dale |
Boston was 2002, Crawley 2011. Apart from one L2 promotion at Stevenage he’s been rubbish for the last decade.
And his assistant is even worse. |
Did brilliant at Stevenage recently and won promotion with them. He's got a better track record than most managers and won more promotions. Stick with Jim if you want nice. [Post edited 9 Apr 20:50]
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 20:55 - Apr 9 with 950 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 20:48 - Apr 9 by TalkingSutty |
Did brilliant at Stevenage recently and won promotion with them. He's got a better track record than most managers and won more promotions. Stick with Jim if you want nice. [Post edited 9 Apr 20:50]
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I didn’t mention McNulty or his suitability! More than Evans is completely unsuitable despite the Stevenage success which was noted.
I want a manager who wins football matches. Our most successful manager ever wasn’t someone you’d call “nice” and I wouldn’t have a pint with him. It’s irrelevant as long as they bring success and are good for the football club. Far too much assuming going on.
In my opinion, based on his recent record and the way he has conducted himself down the years, Evans wouldn’t be. | |
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| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 21:00 - Apr 9 with 920 views | TVOS1907 |
| Refwatch - Sutton United v Rochdale on 20:48 - Apr 9 by 442Dale |
Well if you ever do, don’t choose a horrible ex Preston winger. |
Graeme Atkinson was okay. | |
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