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Taken from facebook 13:36 - Apr 18 with 3704 viewsBoundy

"My friend runs a small cafe in West Wales . Due to Welsh Labour increasing business rates on hospitality businesses ( they remain unchanged in England ) his business rates are increasing from £12000 to £19000!
On top of this he has to find an additional £3000 for Labour’s national insurance hike and another £3000 for minimum wage increases .
His profit last year was £25000 so unless he increases his charges his projected profit for this year is reduced to £12000. He works from 6am to 6pm 6 days a week. I feel sorry for him as he works so hard but I’ve told him it just isn’t worth running a business in socialist run Wales ".
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"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Taken from facebook on 16:05 - Apr 19 with 794 viewsWhiterockin

Taken from facebook on 15:59 - Apr 19 by ReslovenSwan1

I am not English and never will be. I am cut from a different ethnic stock. Many Welsh people came to Wales to work in the mines factories and farms. You may be one of those. Family perspectives in the valleys. Just like the Russian worker imported into the Donbass mine and steel works. They are aggressively against Ukrainian perspectives and language.

Welcome to Wales. This is Wales. A flag a football team a rugby team the Eisteddfod the independent Church and the Senedd. I love the United Kingdom and would fight for the UK is required

The Essex wide boys of Reform has done enough damage to Wales.

As a boy I had red hair and freckles. Cymru am byth. We are an ethnic minority with a few fellow travellers that are very welcome on board.

Personally I find the Eisteddfod pretty dull potatoes butt that is irrelevant.

FFS is the voice of the intolerant.

The East stand morons were singing they are deviants once again. "No sense of self awareness". The club no longer promote. "Zero tolerance to ethnic abuse of any kind". It sounds as if they recognise there is an issue. If it is OK why fret of abusing other ethnic h groups? All in or do not bother might be a valid argument.

You posted a dull and anonymous drivel off the facebook. I provided information contacting it. The Senedd is giving business rate relief from April 205
[Post edited 19 Apr 16:09]


I hope you stayed long enough yesterday too see all the players and entire coaching staff come over and applaud the East stand. They all know who the true supporters are, morons they most certainly are not, in comparison to those who occasionally take a seat high up in the West stand.
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Taken from facebook on 16:27 - Apr 19 with 754 viewsBoundy

Taken from facebook on 15:49 - Apr 19 by lifelong

Boundy praise the WAG?
You’re aiming a bit high there.


So you disagree that the Sennedd have been a failure

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Taken from facebook on 15:59 - Apr 19 by ReslovenSwan1

I am not English and never will be. I am cut from a different ethnic stock. Many Welsh people came to Wales to work in the mines factories and farms. You may be one of those. Family perspectives in the valleys. Just like the Russian worker imported into the Donbass mine and steel works. They are aggressively against Ukrainian perspectives and language.

Welcome to Wales. This is Wales. A flag a football team a rugby team the Eisteddfod the independent Church and the Senedd. I love the United Kingdom and would fight for the UK is required

The Essex wide boys of Reform has done enough damage to Wales.

As a boy I had red hair and freckles. Cymru am byth. We are an ethnic minority with a few fellow travellers that are very welcome on board.

Personally I find the Eisteddfod pretty dull potatoes butt that is irrelevant.

FFS is the voice of the intolerant.

The East stand morons were singing they are deviants once again. "No sense of self awareness". The club no longer promote. "Zero tolerance to ethnic abuse of any kind". It sounds as if they recognise there is an issue. If it is OK why fret of abusing other ethnic h groups? All in or do not bother might be a valid argument.

You posted a dull and anonymous drivel off the facebook. I provided information contacting it. The Senedd is giving business rate relief from April 205
[Post edited 19 Apr 16:09]


Easy to call people morons from behind your keyboard, you should have got your ticket in the east, and told some of them what you think

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Taken from facebook on 16:36 - Apr 19 with 717 viewsBoundy

Taken from facebook on 15:59 - Apr 19 by ReslovenSwan1

I am not English and never will be. I am cut from a different ethnic stock. Many Welsh people came to Wales to work in the mines factories and farms. You may be one of those. Family perspectives in the valleys. Just like the Russian worker imported into the Donbass mine and steel works. They are aggressively against Ukrainian perspectives and language.

Welcome to Wales. This is Wales. A flag a football team a rugby team the Eisteddfod the independent Church and the Senedd. I love the United Kingdom and would fight for the UK is required

The Essex wide boys of Reform has done enough damage to Wales.

As a boy I had red hair and freckles. Cymru am byth. We are an ethnic minority with a few fellow travellers that are very welcome on board.

Personally I find the Eisteddfod pretty dull potatoes butt that is irrelevant.

FFS is the voice of the intolerant.

The East stand morons were singing they are deviants once again. "No sense of self awareness". The club no longer promote. "Zero tolerance to ethnic abuse of any kind". It sounds as if they recognise there is an issue. If it is OK why fret of abusing other ethnic h groups? All in or do not bother might be a valid argument.

You posted a dull and anonymous drivel off the facebook. I provided information contacting it. The Senedd is giving business rate relief from April 205
[Post edited 19 Apr 16:09]


Learn your Welsh history then came back to me, the majority of coal miners were English or of English stock , The origins of a natural Welshman is of being short ,dark skinned and regarded by many scholars as being of Iberian . Considering Reform have never had power , ever I find it amusing that coming from yourself a self proclaimed intellect you get so many basic truths so wrong .FFS is a means of laughing ,at you ,dismissing the content of this thread shows a total lack of understanding the effects of the rise in taxation imposed by Westminster supported by your beloved Welsh Sennedd

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Taken from facebook on 16:05 - Apr 19 by Whiterockin

I hope you stayed long enough yesterday too see all the players and entire coaching staff come over and applaud the East stand. They all know who the true supporters are, morons they most certainly are not, in comparison to those who occasionally take a seat high up in the West stand.


I know many supporters in the West Stand who have been supporting the Swans since before most of the supporters in the ground were born. Just who the f… do you think you are calling them casual supporters?
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Taken from facebook on 17:24 - Apr 19 with 671 viewslifelong

Taken from facebook on 16:27 - Apr 19 by Boundy

So you disagree that the Sennedd have been a failure


I disagree with a lot of what they have done and agree with other matters. What I don’t do is constantly scour social media seeking out negativity.
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Taken from facebook on 17:57 - Apr 19 with 644 viewsWhiterockin

Taken from facebook on 17:19 - Apr 19 by lifelong

I know many supporters in the West Stand who have been supporting the Swans since before most of the supporters in the ground were born. Just who the f… do you think you are calling them casual supporters?


It was in response to the one who never goes and calls east stand supporters morons, who was there on Friday in the West stand upper at the back.

Edit
Read his previous post.
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Taken from facebook on 18:30 - Apr 19 with 594 viewsonehunglow

Taken from facebook on 15:59 - Apr 19 by ReslovenSwan1

I am not English and never will be. I am cut from a different ethnic stock. Many Welsh people came to Wales to work in the mines factories and farms. You may be one of those. Family perspectives in the valleys. Just like the Russian worker imported into the Donbass mine and steel works. They are aggressively against Ukrainian perspectives and language.

Welcome to Wales. This is Wales. A flag a football team a rugby team the Eisteddfod the independent Church and the Senedd. I love the United Kingdom and would fight for the UK is required

The Essex wide boys of Reform has done enough damage to Wales.

As a boy I had red hair and freckles. Cymru am byth. We are an ethnic minority with a few fellow travellers that are very welcome on board.

Personally I find the Eisteddfod pretty dull potatoes butt that is irrelevant.

FFS is the voice of the intolerant.

The East stand morons were singing they are deviants once again. "No sense of self awareness". The club no longer promote. "Zero tolerance to ethnic abuse of any kind". It sounds as if they recognise there is an issue. If it is OK why fret of abusing other ethnic h groups? All in or do not bother might be a valid argument.

You posted a dull and anonymous drivel off the facebook. I provided information contacting it. The Senedd is giving business rate relief from April 205
[Post edited 19 Apr 16:09]


Pure racism
I was born in Wales of Welsh parents
My son and daughter born in England are the same " stock" as me
You are the same
You only differ with your narrow minded , deeply deluded drivel
Independent church , in Wales
Finished ages ago
Hence chapels of bigotry closing as people see the real light

English and Welsh are the same ethnicity

Get the fkck over it

We are different in our insularity and insecurity

It's anathema to say anything " negative" about Wales

Nice comments always swallowed whole

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Taken from facebook on 18:38 - Apr 19 with 589 viewsSullutaCreturned

Taken from facebook on 23:00 - Apr 18 by Kilkennyjack

An excellent question.
I was hoping that someone would ask …….

‘Wales would not have voted by a majority for Brexit if not for retired English people moving across the border, according to research by Oxford University.

This was despite a pro-Leave vote in the valleys of the south-east of Wales, according to Danny Dorling, professor of geography at Oxford.

“Wales was made to look like a Brexit-supporting nation by its English settlers’.

I guess how you react to this information depends what you think about Oxford university …?

What you reckon ?,
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Oh this again, you go on about "civic Welshness" when it suits you but again this post betrays your true feelings about English people in Wales.

As I pointed out to you, unless Dorling spoke to every English retiree and they told him exactly how he voted his "research" is no better than an exit poll and just as accurate as the brexit polls, in other words, not accurate. It may be right, it may not be.

Even so, if we allow your "civic Welshness" idea to stand youn have to accept that these Welsh residents represented Wales when they voted so your point is moot.
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Taken from facebook on 20:28 - Apr 19 with 554 viewsonehunglow

Taken from facebook on 18:38 - Apr 19 by SullutaCreturned

Oh this again, you go on about "civic Welshness" when it suits you but again this post betrays your true feelings about English people in Wales.

As I pointed out to you, unless Dorling spoke to every English retiree and they told him exactly how he voted his "research" is no better than an exit poll and just as accurate as the brexit polls, in other words, not accurate. It may be right, it may not be.

Even so, if we allow your "civic Welshness" idea to stand youn have to accept that these Welsh residents represented Wales when they voted so your point is moot.


I've seen my arse now
It's woke me up from my forum slumber

That IIam somehow different ethnically to my wife kids and grandkids is something that offends me greatly
The narrow mindedness of Welsh nats knows no bounds
The chips on shoulders are McCain level

Maybe being Welsh by birth and parentage makes me the mess of a man I am

And we accept this

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Taken from facebook on 21:05 - Apr 19 with 527 viewsSullutaCreturned

Taken from facebook on 15:20 - Apr 19 by ReslovenSwan1

There is a culture on Wales of thinking "trust the English they know best".

This thinking is seen in the traitorous scrap the Senedd crowd who support the Essex wideboys from Reform.

Wales as an ethnic minority are like a low maintenance ex wife. "Keep them sweet on a low budget".

Scrapping the Senedd is the equivalent of kicking ex wife and kids out of the family home.


Ummm...no, that is so wrong it's laughable. I'll start with don't trust politicians and I'll continue with just because there is a Welsh government it's not traitorous to want to scrap such a useless, tinpot collection of th useless, greedy, negligent and downright irresponsible who only stood for the Senedd because they'd never get near Westminster.

People in Wales want better and that means better from Westminster too.

There's a few on here who support reform but not many and those of us who won't vote reform but still want the Senedd scrapped, which pigeon hole do you want to cram us into?

There is definitely a culture amongst some in wales to attack anything English and then we hear the beeping when they are called out for it.
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Taken from facebook on 21:13 - Apr 19 with 503 viewsSullutaCreturned

Taken from facebook on 17:24 - Apr 19 by lifelong

I disagree with a lot of what they have done and agree with other matters. What I don’t do is constantly scour social media seeking out negativity.


Do you think watching the news or reading the WoL is scouring xocial media? Is posting about a big news story negativity or just repeating the truth.

Put another way, if there is a banner headline story on the WoL and it's posted on here, is that wrong?
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Taken from facebook on 21:26 - Apr 19 with 472 viewsSullutaCreturned

Taken from facebook on 15:59 - Apr 19 by ReslovenSwan1

I am not English and never will be. I am cut from a different ethnic stock. Many Welsh people came to Wales to work in the mines factories and farms. You may be one of those. Family perspectives in the valleys. Just like the Russian worker imported into the Donbass mine and steel works. They are aggressively against Ukrainian perspectives and language.

Welcome to Wales. This is Wales. A flag a football team a rugby team the Eisteddfod the independent Church and the Senedd. I love the United Kingdom and would fight for the UK is required

The Essex wide boys of Reform has done enough damage to Wales.

As a boy I had red hair and freckles. Cymru am byth. We are an ethnic minority with a few fellow travellers that are very welcome on board.

Personally I find the Eisteddfod pretty dull potatoes butt that is irrelevant.

FFS is the voice of the intolerant.

The East stand morons were singing they are deviants once again. "No sense of self awareness". The club no longer promote. "Zero tolerance to ethnic abuse of any kind". It sounds as if they recognise there is an issue. If it is OK why fret of abusing other ethnic h groups? All in or do not bother might be a valid argument.

You posted a dull and anonymous drivel off the facebook. I provided information contacting it. The Senedd is giving business rate relief from April 205
[Post edited 19 Apr 16:09]


red hair and freckles, you need to check your geneology then, you're more likley to be of Scottish or Irish descent?

Again you feel entitled to call others morons, a bit of introspection might help you.

What damage have reform done to Wales?

It wasn't just mines and factories, I'm born and bred in the Mumbles, many families from down that way have Northern Cornish and Devon blood, fishing stock see, my great, great grnadfather was from North Devon. The old Mumbles slang is really quite Cornish sounding, not that you hear it much these days. In that sland I think I'd have been an "innalong"

You may not be English but do a DNA test, you may not be very Welsh either. You can also thank the Romans for all the European blood in your genes.
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Taken from facebook on 22:24 - Apr 19 with 431 viewsBoundy

Taken from facebook on 17:24 - Apr 19 by lifelong

I disagree with a lot of what they have done and agree with other matters. What I don’t do is constantly scour social media seeking out negativity.


That's better ,nice to know you gave a point of view instead of sniping from the sidelines as is your want .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Taken from facebook on 22:34 - Apr 19 with 420 viewslifelong

Taken from facebook on 22:24 - Apr 19 by Boundy

That's better ,nice to know you gave a point of view instead of sniping from the sidelines as is your want .


Sniping from the sidelines, what the hell is that supposed to mean?What you going to quote from next Tik Tok, Twitter or the Beano perhaps?
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Taken from facebook on 22:52 - Apr 19 with 414 viewsReslovenSwan1

Taken from facebook on 21:26 - Apr 19 by SullutaCreturned

red hair and freckles, you need to check your geneology then, you're more likley to be of Scottish or Irish descent?

Again you feel entitled to call others morons, a bit of introspection might help you.

What damage have reform done to Wales?

It wasn't just mines and factories, I'm born and bred in the Mumbles, many families from down that way have Northern Cornish and Devon blood, fishing stock see, my great, great grnadfather was from North Devon. The old Mumbles slang is really quite Cornish sounding, not that you hear it much these days. In that sland I think I'd have been an "innalong"

You may not be English but do a DNA test, you may not be very Welsh either. You can also thank the Romans for all the European blood in your genes.


I identify as Welsh and British just as an English person does azs English or British.

If people want better people in the Senedd they can vote them out. You do not need to abolish the Senedd. No one argues to abolish Westminster to get rid of the Starmer Government.

It took 600 year to get a unified Welsh Government. Some one gas put an anonymous FB posting on hers with out doing any research. It is a debunked anti Senedd propaganda from unknown sources.

Wise sage since Toshack era
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Taken from facebook on 23:15 - Apr 19 with 397 viewsbuilthjack

A friend son has a small cafe in Hereford.
It’s his third year now.first years rates 11K. Last year 14K. This year 18K.
Any different to Wales?

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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Taken from facebook on 01:46 - Apr 20 with 367 viewsRobbie

When I was lad , Durham Miners came looking for work in the South Wales coalfields where I was growing up back then , even had a local Council house estate they were welcomed .

Workers of all capabilities or skills should be an asset to any community and get involved .

Maybe that practise has long gone and new business in any area is deemed dodgy now .
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Taken from facebook on 05:01 - Apr 20 with 358 viewsKilkennyjack

Taken from facebook on 18:38 - Apr 19 by SullutaCreturned

Oh this again, you go on about "civic Welshness" when it suits you but again this post betrays your true feelings about English people in Wales.

As I pointed out to you, unless Dorling spoke to every English retiree and they told him exactly how he voted his "research" is no better than an exit poll and just as accurate as the brexit polls, in other words, not accurate. It may be right, it may not be.

Even so, if we allow your "civic Welshness" idea to stand youn have to accept that these Welsh residents represented Wales when they voted so your point is moot.


I am not sure you understand how the internet works.

Plaid promote a civil welshness which i think works for me.
It might not work for everyone.
It sinks all the DNA nonsense that OHL keeps refering to.

An academic in Oxford does serious research on the Brexit vote in Wales.
You dont like the findings so you guess stuff to try and discredit it.
Unfortunately for you the gravitas of Oxford University trumps your guess work. Fact.

I do not dictate Plaid policy and i do not own Oxford University.
Both these things are true at the same time.

Beware of the Risen People

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Taken from facebook on 05:11 - Apr 20 with 353 viewsKilkennyjack

Taken from facebook on 16:27 - Apr 19 by Boundy

So you disagree that the Sennedd have been a failure


You cant even spell Senedd.
Its becoming difficult to take you seriously.

Yes devolution is a much better way for a modern democratic nation to govern than your preferred model of Charlie boy sat in a posh chair with a crown making decisions about Townhill and the Clase.
Its too dull for serious debate.

You would have Wales as wales-shire, whilst Scotland and Ireland utilise the levers that a modern nation can pull.

You want a cowed Wales, i want a vibrant confident Wales.
Its a big difference and thankfully are young people are clear.

Beware of the Risen People

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Taken from facebook on 05:18 - Apr 20 with 348 viewsKilkennyjack

Taken from facebook on 18:30 - Apr 19 by onehunglow

Pure racism
I was born in Wales of Welsh parents
My son and daughter born in England are the same " stock" as me
You are the same
You only differ with your narrow minded , deeply deluded drivel
Independent church , in Wales
Finished ages ago
Hence chapels of bigotry closing as people see the real light

English and Welsh are the same ethnicity

Get the fkck over it

We are different in our insularity and insecurity

It's anathema to say anything " negative" about Wales

Nice comments always swallowed whole


DNA can distinguish people who are Welsh DNA, English DNA, Irish DNA, Scots DNA.
Factually as ethnic groups, not the same.

Thats not to say that any one group is better or worse, but they can distinguish.
It also does not distract from Plaids civic welshness.

Thank you for listening.

Beware of the Risen People

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Taken from facebook on 09:05 - Apr 20 with 298 viewsBoundy

Taken from facebook on 22:34 - Apr 19 by lifelong

Sniping from the sidelines, what the hell is that supposed to mean?What you going to quote from next Tik Tok, Twitter or the Beano perhaps?


Like another poster on here you seem to misunderstand when quotation marks are & not used for , my response to you were my own words , you sniped at me from the side when you contributed to this thread , the other poster must have missed the quotation marks I used when creating this thread .
Hope that makes it clearer for you

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Taken from facebook on 09:11 - Apr 20 with 277 viewsonehunglow

For any outsiders reading , this is how the Welsh interact
Squabbling over language and whose most loyal out of a fan base
Just embarrassing
Sniping the new slagging off then

Get a forking grip

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Taken from facebook on 09:39 - Apr 20 with 254 views3swan

Taken from facebook on 18:38 - Apr 19 by SullutaCreturned

Oh this again, you go on about "civic Welshness" when it suits you but again this post betrays your true feelings about English people in Wales.

As I pointed out to you, unless Dorling spoke to every English retiree and they told him exactly how he voted his "research" is no better than an exit poll and just as accurate as the brexit polls, in other words, not accurate. It may be right, it may not be.

Even so, if we allow your "civic Welshness" idea to stand youn have to accept that these Welsh residents represented Wales when they voted so your point is moot.


Without getting into the thread. I have always said the same about polls and surveys etc.

As you say if not everyone is asked and answers honestly the findings are still an opinion based on findings.

Yes they can carry some weight but we know in general that research can be biased.
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Taken from facebook on 13:17 - Apr 20 with 196 viewsKilkennyjack

Taken from facebook on 09:39 - Apr 20 by 3swan

Without getting into the thread. I have always said the same about polls and surveys etc.

As you say if not everyone is asked and answers honestly the findings are still an opinion based on findings.

Yes they can carry some weight but we know in general that research can be biased.


I shall inform Oxford University of your concerns.

Please keep up the good work.

Beware of the Risen People

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