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With the 1-0 home win against Hull City, Swansea City are on a 4-match winning run, extending their unbeaten run to 5 matches and have kept a clean sheet in their last 4 games in the league. The team has won 5 of their last 8 matches in Championship. Swansea City stats show the team has picked up an average of 1.33 points per league game since the beginning of the season. Their form stats indicate that in the last 8 league matches the team's points per game value has been averaging 2.00, which is 50.4% higher than their current season's average.



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BH Monday Championship Thread on 17:25 - Apr 21 with 2426 viewsunion_jack

BH Monday Championship Thread on 17:22 - Apr 21 by jack247

I’d have been happy with them not picking up points on Hull and Derby. To drop two points to everybody was incredible

Not forgetting a great away performance from our boys of course.


Of course, a display full of energy.

And their goal was a bit lucky. Millimetres to the right and it would have come back out off the post.

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BH Monday Championship Thread on 17:38 - Apr 21 with 2321 viewsWhiterockin

Big game next Saturday. Millwall pushing for a play off place yet a 2-0 win for us would put us above them. If only Williams had gone when he should have.
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BH Monday Championship Thread on 17:50 - Apr 21 with 2250 viewsandrew

BH Monday Championship Thread on 17:38 - Apr 21 by Whiterockin

Big game next Saturday. Millwall pushing for a play off place yet a 2-0 win for us would put us above them. If only Williams had gone when he should have.


Can still make play offs but cov and boro would need to lose next week and last game Boro to beat Cov but a 14 goal swing over the 2 games in our favour. We could lose out on goal difference.

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BH Monday Championship Thread on 17:51 - Apr 21 with 2224 viewsWhiterockin

BH Monday Championship Thread on 17:50 - Apr 21 by andrew

Can still make play offs but cov and boro would need to lose next week and last game Boro to beat Cov but a 14 goal swing over the 2 games in our favour. We could lose out on goal difference.


One win during the Williams shitfest towards the end and we would be in there.
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BH Monday Championship Thread on 17:54 - Apr 21 with 2201 viewsraynor94

BH Monday Championship Thread on 17:51 - Apr 21 by Whiterockin

One win during the Williams shitfest towards the end and we would be in there.


Apart from the top 3 it shows what a muchness of a muchness this league is, a missed opportunity keeping hold of Williams for so long

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BH Monday Championship Thread on 18:14 - Apr 21 with 2116 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

BH Monday Championship Thread on 17:51 - Apr 21 by Whiterockin

One win during the Williams shitfest towards the end and we would be in there.


Saw a stat that said we have lost 16 points from winning positions. If we had just hung on for 4 of them we’d be in the mix.

Tiny margins between an awful season battling relegation and being on the verge of the playoffs.

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BH Monday Championship Thread on 18:37 - Apr 21 with 2014 viewsFireboy2

BH Monday Championship Thread on 18:14 - Apr 21 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Saw a stat that said we have lost 16 points from winning positions. If we had just hung on for 4 of them we’d be in the mix.

Tiny margins between an awful season battling relegation and being on the verge of the playoffs.


Or if the board had got rid of williams when he showed his true colours.
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BH Monday Championship Thread on 18:45 - Apr 21 with 1959 viewsvetchonian

BH Monday Championship Thread on 18:37 - Apr 21 by Fireboy2

Or if the board had got rid of williams when he showed his true colours.


But then would Grimes have gone? Which would have meant no O brien who really makes a difference

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BH Monday Championship Thread on 18:59 - Apr 21 with 1903 viewsFireboy2

BH Monday Championship Thread on 18:45 - Apr 21 by vetchonian

But then would Grimes have gone? Which would have meant no O brien who really makes a difference


Very good point.
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BH Monday Championship Thread on 19:25 - Apr 21 with 1849 viewsfelixstowe_jack

BH Monday Championship Thread on 14:13 - Apr 21 by bennytheblue

Lowest ebb? You only picked up beginning of this month? I’ve seen us beat you loads of times it means f all…..


Well you have beaten us about 10 less than we have beaten you in EFL PL matches


Mind you season was a record for you. The 4 points you gained in our matches is the most you have ever taken off us. This is the first time you have managed to take four points of us since 1988.

Still not managed a double yet.

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BH Monday Championship Thread on 23:03 - Apr 21 with 1573 viewsowainglyndwr

BH Monday Championship Thread on 12:47 - Apr 21 by raynor94

15 points and counting better than you, beat us when we were at our lowest ebb, and you are still dining out on a one off win

Never mind if you do go down you will always have that memory


Agree all the Cardiff fans I work with think 3 nil was the best thing in thier lives,
Forgot about our 4 nil

Forgot about the double
Forgot about the Double Double
Forgot about since the Premiership
Cardiff 3 wins .
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The biggest thing in thier lives is 3 nil
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BH Monday Championship Thread on 04:54 - Apr 22 with 1443 viewsncswan

BH Monday Championship Thread on 18:45 - Apr 21 by vetchonian

But then would Grimes have gone? Which would have meant no O brien who really makes a difference


20-20 hindsight reveals the opportunity was after MatchDay 30 (vs. Coventry on 1Feb). We lost 0-2, but then beat Bristol @ Bristol 0-1 on 9Feb, but then lost @ home to Shef Wed 0-1 on 12Feb, then @ Stoke 3-1. Grimes was signed by Coventry prior to our game with them but didn't play. As I recall, I think LOB signed on the last day of window, which was 3Feb.
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BH Monday Championship Thread on 10:46 - Apr 22 with 1263 viewsvetchonian

BH Monday Championship Thread on 04:54 - Apr 22 by ncswan

20-20 hindsight reveals the opportunity was after MatchDay 30 (vs. Coventry on 1Feb). We lost 0-2, but then beat Bristol @ Bristol 0-1 on 9Feb, but then lost @ home to Shef Wed 0-1 on 12Feb, then @ Stoke 3-1. Grimes was signed by Coventry prior to our game with them but didn't play. As I recall, I think LOB signed on the last day of window, which was 3Feb.


You are missing my point....could Grimes perform the role O Brien does advanced in midfield and aggressive
I agree with your data and Williams just put O Brien onto the Grimes role Sheehan has used him far more forwards.
If Grimes were still here do you think we would be playing as much on the front foot?
I'm not saying our upturn is all down to O Brien if it was just him Williams wouldn't have been sacked as your data shows the results from his first few games.
It's hats off to Sheehan who has others have said uses a system to play to the players strengths rather than get players to play to a "rigid system

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BH Monday Championship Thread on 11:32 - Apr 22 with 1207 viewsBoundy

BH Monday Championship Thread on 23:03 - Apr 21 by owainglyndwr

Agree all the Cardiff fans I work with think 3 nil was the best thing in thier lives,
Forgot about our 4 nil

Forgot about the double
Forgot about the Double Double
Forgot about since the Premiership
Cardiff 3 wins .
SWANSEA 7

The biggest thing in thier lives is 3 nil
[Post edited 21 Apr 23:05]


Since the 1st January 1980 when most of todays supporters would have started following the Clubs our results are as follows Cardiff have beaten us 14 times and drawn 13 times Our wins in the same period (1st January 1980 - 18th January 2025 ) we've beaten them 27 times nearly double so really it should be the Doube ,Doube, Doube

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BH Monday Championship Thread on 11:45 - Apr 22 with 1183 viewsonehunglow

BH Monday Championship Thread on 10:46 - Apr 22 by vetchonian

You are missing my point....could Grimes perform the role O Brien does advanced in midfield and aggressive
I agree with your data and Williams just put O Brien onto the Grimes role Sheehan has used him far more forwards.
If Grimes were still here do you think we would be playing as much on the front foot?
I'm not saying our upturn is all down to O Brien if it was just him Williams wouldn't have been sacked as your data shows the results from his first few games.
It's hats off to Sheehan who has others have said uses a system to play to the players strengths rather than get players to play to a "rigid system


Grimes was the main man for us
Since his leaving, the chance has been startling
No way is he anywhere near OBrien standard
If Coventry go up and he stays there , he will be ruthlessly exposed
I think they will sell him on if they do go up

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BH Monday Championship Thread on 11:55 - Apr 22 with 1168 viewsWhiterockin

BH Monday Championship Thread on 11:45 - Apr 22 by onehunglow

Grimes was the main man for us
Since his leaving, the chance has been startling
No way is he anywhere near OBrien standard
If Coventry go up and he stays there , he will be ruthlessly exposed
I think they will sell him on if they do go up


Perhaps we could buy him back.
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BH Monday Championship Thread on 15:02 - Apr 22 with 1032 viewsncswan

BH Monday Championship Thread on 10:46 - Apr 22 by vetchonian

You are missing my point....could Grimes perform the role O Brien does advanced in midfield and aggressive
I agree with your data and Williams just put O Brien onto the Grimes role Sheehan has used him far more forwards.
If Grimes were still here do you think we would be playing as much on the front foot?
I'm not saying our upturn is all down to O Brien if it was just him Williams wouldn't have been sacked as your data shows the results from his first few games.
It's hats off to Sheehan who has others have said uses a system to play to the players strengths rather than get players to play to a "rigid system


Vetch, I was agreeing with your point, which I believe to have been, in my words, "Grimes may have decided to stay if Williams was let go earlier, and therefore, LOB would not have been signed". I agree with you that LOB is a godsend to Swans but wouldn't have been signed if Grimes had stayed. Our current streak would not have happened with Grimes in charge.

Hanging on to Williams, imo, pushed Grimes to leave. If that's the case, then I was pointing out a point in the timeline where Swans could have had Sheehan in charge two or three games prior to the Blackburn game, which was his first game in charge. Grimes left in late Jan. LOB signed last day of Jan window (3Feb). Williams fired after Stoke game (15Feb).
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BH Monday Championship Thread on 09:44 - Apr 23 with 857 viewsbennytheblue

BH Monday Championship Thread on 23:03 - Apr 21 by owainglyndwr

Agree all the Cardiff fans I work with think 3 nil was the best thing in thier lives,
Forgot about our 4 nil

Forgot about the double
Forgot about the Double Double
Forgot about since the Premiership
Cardiff 3 wins .
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The biggest thing in thier lives is 3 nil
[Post edited 21 Apr 23:05]


That 3-0 might well have stopped you making the playoffs mind? Crazy this league, just a month ago you were looking at a relegation scrap with us (3 point gap) before you beat Derby….just shows how small the gap in quality is really all the way down from the top two. No doubt we will see Leeds and Burnely back next year…..uh oh….maybe not eh?
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BH Monday Championship Thread on 10:25 - Apr 23 with 803 viewsDoubeDoube

BH Monday Championship Thread on 09:44 - Apr 23 by bennytheblue

That 3-0 might well have stopped you making the playoffs mind? Crazy this league, just a month ago you were looking at a relegation scrap with us (3 point gap) before you beat Derby….just shows how small the gap in quality is really all the way down from the top two. No doubt we will see Leeds and Burnely back next year…..uh oh….maybe not eh?


that and other various Luke Williams games, but if it makes you feel a bit better then fill your boots
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BH Monday Championship Thread on 10:37 - Apr 23 with 782 viewsjack247

BH Monday Championship Thread on 09:44 - Apr 23 by bennytheblue

That 3-0 might well have stopped you making the playoffs mind? Crazy this league, just a month ago you were looking at a relegation scrap with us (3 point gap) before you beat Derby….just shows how small the gap in quality is really all the way down from the top two. No doubt we will see Leeds and Burnely back next year…..uh oh….maybe not eh?


No. Keeping our manager too long cost us a shot at the playoffs. We were playing like that every week at the time.

It may just have kept you in the championship though. You are very lucky we played Hull, Plymouth and Derby after he left. We wouldn’t have beaten them and we’d both be going down.
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BH Monday Championship Thread on 13:46 - Apr 23 with 678 viewsraynor94

BH Monday Championship Thread on 09:44 - Apr 23 by bennytheblue

That 3-0 might well have stopped you making the playoffs mind? Crazy this league, just a month ago you were looking at a relegation scrap with us (3 point gap) before you beat Derby….just shows how small the gap in quality is really all the way down from the top two. No doubt we will see Leeds and Burnely back next year…..uh oh….maybe not eh?


I think you need to check your tables we were 5 points ahead of you withe a far better goal difference before Derby

So saying we were in a relegation scrap is stretching it a bit

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