| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 11:08 - Apr 28 with 1876 views | felly1 |
It always felt like we'd eventually buckle under the pressure.
The quality between the two sides was massive.
Didn't think Rusk got the subs right this time.
Bree adds nothing but if we'd brought Aribo on and pushed him forward he would at least offered an out ball.
Neither Stewart and certainly not Archer could do this very well.
Someone else pointed out to me that Fulham were in the Championship when these Clowns took charge of out club.
Its amazing how far we've dropped off in the required standards whilst Fulhams owners clearly understood what's required to compete at this level. |  | |  |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 13:03 - Apr 28 with 1716 views | SaintNick |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 11:08 - Apr 28 by felly1 |
It always felt like we'd eventually buckle under the pressure.
The quality between the two sides was massive.
Didn't think Rusk got the subs right this time.
Bree adds nothing but if we'd brought Aribo on and pushed him forward he would at least offered an out ball.
Neither Stewart and certainly not Archer could do this very well.
Someone else pointed out to me that Fulham were in the Championship when these Clowns took charge of out club.
Its amazing how far we've dropped off in the required standards whilst Fulhams owners clearly understood what's required to compete at this level. |
An interesting comparison about hoe you feel that Fulham's owners know what is expected whilst ours are clowns.
Shahid Khan took sole ownership of the club in July 2013, they were in the Premier League and relegated in his first season of ownership and would spent 4 seasons in the Championship before being promoted in 2018, relegated in 2019, promoted again in 2020, relegated again in 2021, promoted again in 2022 and ae now in their 3rd consecutive season in the Premier League.
So perhaps we should have asked Shahid Khan on Saturday as he clearly must know what is required to compete at this level, he will also know how difficult it is these days and that instant success doesnt come easily and you have to be patient.
Clubs with good owners get relegated, ask Leicester & Ipswich this season, or Stoke 6 years ago, clubs make mistakes and pay for them, but some clubs come back and some don't.
We are becoming Spurs fans we seem to have a sense of entitlement and nothing is ever good enough for us. we are always the victims, always having to blame someone |  |
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| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 14:43 - Apr 28 with 1614 views | felly1 |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 13:03 - Apr 28 by SaintNick |
An interesting comparison about hoe you feel that Fulham's owners know what is expected whilst ours are clowns.
Shahid Khan took sole ownership of the club in July 2013, they were in the Premier League and relegated in his first season of ownership and would spent 4 seasons in the Championship before being promoted in 2018, relegated in 2019, promoted again in 2020, relegated again in 2021, promoted again in 2022 and ae now in their 3rd consecutive season in the Premier League.
So perhaps we should have asked Shahid Khan on Saturday as he clearly must know what is required to compete at this level, he will also know how difficult it is these days and that instant success doesnt come easily and you have to be patient.
Clubs with good owners get relegated, ask Leicester & Ipswich this season, or Stoke 6 years ago, clubs make mistakes and pay for them, but some clubs come back and some don't.
We are becoming Spurs fans we seem to have a sense of entitlement and nothing is ever good enough for us. we are always the victims, always having to blame someone |
We're on 11 points Nick ffs!
I can accept relegation but this is historically the worst ever points total in our history and currently equalling the worst ever in Premier league history. | | | |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 14:49 - Apr 28 with 1605 views | A1079 |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 13:03 - Apr 28 by SaintNick |
An interesting comparison about hoe you feel that Fulham's owners know what is expected whilst ours are clowns.
Shahid Khan took sole ownership of the club in July 2013, they were in the Premier League and relegated in his first season of ownership and would spent 4 seasons in the Championship before being promoted in 2018, relegated in 2019, promoted again in 2020, relegated again in 2021, promoted again in 2022 and ae now in their 3rd consecutive season in the Premier League.
So perhaps we should have asked Shahid Khan on Saturday as he clearly must know what is required to compete at this level, he will also know how difficult it is these days and that instant success doesnt come easily and you have to be patient.
Clubs with good owners get relegated, ask Leicester & Ipswich this season, or Stoke 6 years ago, clubs make mistakes and pay for them, but some clubs come back and some don't.
We are becoming Spurs fans we seem to have a sense of entitlement and nothing is ever good enough for us. we are always the victims, always having to blame someone |
Who should we blame Nick in what has been without question probably the worst season in the clubs history on and off the pitch? It sure as hell isn't the fans fault. If you had to assess this season and even the seasons before this, what reasons would you (and others) say have lead us to be where we are today? | | | |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 15:23 - Apr 28 with 1542 views | grumpy |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 13:03 - Apr 28 by SaintNick |
An interesting comparison about hoe you feel that Fulham's owners know what is expected whilst ours are clowns.
Shahid Khan took sole ownership of the club in July 2013, they were in the Premier League and relegated in his first season of ownership and would spent 4 seasons in the Championship before being promoted in 2018, relegated in 2019, promoted again in 2020, relegated again in 2021, promoted again in 2022 and ae now in their 3rd consecutive season in the Premier League.
So perhaps we should have asked Shahid Khan on Saturday as he clearly must know what is required to compete at this level, he will also know how difficult it is these days and that instant success doesnt come easily and you have to be patient.
Clubs with good owners get relegated, ask Leicester & Ipswich this season, or Stoke 6 years ago, clubs make mistakes and pay for them, but some clubs come back and some don't.
We are becoming Spurs fans we seem to have a sense of entitlement and nothing is ever good enough for us. we are always the victims, always having to blame someone |
'We are becoming Spurs fans we seem to have a sense of entitlement and nothing is ever good enough for us. we are always the victims, always having to blame someone'
Seriously! are you saying that
' we seem to have a sense of entitlement and nothing is ever good enough for us'
We have just 11 points from 34 games,we've lost 27 games and conceded 80 goals.
The fans support has been amazing considering the above.
To say we have some sense of entitlement is ridiculous.
Oh! and to say the atmosphere would be better if the away fans were nearer the home end is again ridiculous.
To win a game more often would be nice. [Post edited 28 Apr 15:29]
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| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 15:56 - Apr 28 with 1472 views | PatfromPoole |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 15:23 - Apr 28 by grumpy |
'We are becoming Spurs fans we seem to have a sense of entitlement and nothing is ever good enough for us. we are always the victims, always having to blame someone'
Seriously! are you saying that
' we seem to have a sense of entitlement and nothing is ever good enough for us'
We have just 11 points from 34 games,we've lost 27 games and conceded 80 goals.
The fans support has been amazing considering the above.
To say we have some sense of entitlement is ridiculous.
Oh! and to say the atmosphere would be better if the away fans were nearer the home end is again ridiculous.
To win a game more often would be nice. [Post edited 28 Apr 15:29]
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I do agree with Nick re the location of the away fans impacting the atmosphere.
Ever since I have been watching Saints, our more vocal fans do need to be near the away fans to encourage them to make more noise.
Dates back to the days of the East Terrace at The Dell, which was the loudest part of the ground when I started going to Saints. |  |
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| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 18:55 - Apr 28 with 1341 views | grumpy |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 15:56 - Apr 28 by PatfromPoole |
I do agree with Nick re the location of the away fans impacting the atmosphere.
Ever since I have been watching Saints, our more vocal fans do need to be near the away fans to encourage them to make more noise.
Dates back to the days of the East Terrace at The Dell, which was the loudest part of the ground when I started going to Saints. |
'our more vocal fans do need to be near the away fans to encourage them to make more noise'
What our more vocal fans need is something to cheer about to encourage them to make more noise.
We've won one out of 17 at home,some have been hammerings.
Can you imagine what it would have been like with the away fans where they used to embarrassing or what? | | | |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 21:33 - Apr 28 with 1207 views | Joiedevivre |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 18:55 - Apr 28 by grumpy |
'our more vocal fans do need to be near the away fans to encourage them to make more noise'
What our more vocal fans need is something to cheer about to encourage them to make more noise.
We've won one out of 17 at home,some have been hammerings.
Can you imagine what it would have been like with the away fans where they used to embarrassing or what? |
Some need this, but not all.
Sections of our support are not in need of enjoyment to get atmosphere going - these people are sadly surrounded by zombies in the Northam. |  | | |
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| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 22:10 - Apr 28 with 1168 views | saintmark1976 |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 14:49 - Apr 28 by A1079 |
Who should we blame Nick in what has been without question probably the worst season in the clubs history on and off the pitch? It sure as hell isn't the fans fault. If you had to assess this season and even the seasons before this, what reasons would you (and others) say have lead us to be where we are today? |
Who should we blame ?
Perhaps certain of those amongst us have fallen victim of Stockholm Syndrome ?
Roughly translated, a tortured person falling in love with his/her torturer.. | |
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| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 09:48 - Apr 29 with 808 views | SaintNick |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 15:23 - Apr 28 by grumpy |
'We are becoming Spurs fans we seem to have a sense of entitlement and nothing is ever good enough for us. we are always the victims, always having to blame someone'
Seriously! are you saying that
' we seem to have a sense of entitlement and nothing is ever good enough for us'
We have just 11 points from 34 games,we've lost 27 games and conceded 80 goals.
The fans support has been amazing considering the above.
To say we have some sense of entitlement is ridiculous.
Oh! and to say the atmosphere would be better if the away fans were nearer the home end is again ridiculous.
To win a game more often would be nice. [Post edited 28 Apr 15:29]
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Yes I am seriously saying that, I am not taking this season in isolation, if i was i could suggest that last season was brilliant and that given that the 2 clubs who went down automatically , went down with almost as sorry a display as we gave in staying up, it would suggest that it is the state of football why we went down.
But I am not saying that, I am saying that since Ronald Koeman left in the summer of 2016 we have now spent 9 years moaning, moaning at the owners and moaning at the managers.
Every manager since Koeman has not been good enough for the very vocal minority on social media, Puel, Pelegrino, Hughes, Hasenhuttl, Jones, Selles, Martin, Juri, all have been royally slagged off.
Am I wrong ? Was their uproar when all of the where sacked, Puel got us to 8th place and a major cup final, but it wasn't good enough, everyone was self righteously saying that they were not being entertained and that they weren't renewing season tickets, so the board folded and sacked him, am I wrong ?
Hasenhuttl was the best manager we had since Koeman, he performed miracles in keeping us up with little money, when Sport Republic came in and threw multi millions into the transfer kitty, Hasenhuttl was suddenly under big fire, no one gave him leeway as the club hadn't bought a striker or the injuty problems, they demanded he went and put forward the 9-0 defeats as evidence.
Just the fact that those defeats had happened were enough to sack him.
Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and see how others see you.
9 years with every manager being slagged off by the fans who demand a big experienced name, who quite frankly isn't going to come near us is self entitlement in anyone book.
Yes the fans support has been amazing, but mainly on the road where the fans have turned out in numbers and stick with the team, but at home 10,000 or more fans leaving the stadium with 70 minutes gone is not amazing it is embarrassing.
I have never been so ashamed to be a Saints fan when literally the entire ground stood up and walked out when Fulham scored, I can understand why people were unhappy (understatement i know) but there were still the best part of 5 minutes left and the chance to perhaps pull a goal back, not unheard of we scored in injury time a week earlier.
For 50 year the vocal Saints supporters have pitched themselves next to the away fans, the most vocal fans don't need to be near the away fans and results don't matter, Palace for instance, Pompey and the Fratton end, the Kop at Liverpool.
Sadly we have grown used to being next to the away fans and we are not self motivators when it comes to singing, the occasional burst of OWTS or the new song stolen from Liverpool is all we get.
Again as I keep saying, tell me I am wrong, show me evidence to the contrary. | |
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| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 11:43 - Apr 29 with 716 views | Saintcole7 |
Nick I can't say I noticed the whole ground leaving when Fulham scored, yes some did, but from where I sat most stayed in the hope that we might put a decent attack together which was not the case for nearly the whole second half. As it's been said before it's the hope that kills you and in reality we were never even going to create a chance to score as we lacked any attacking ideas and/or intent. That's how I saw it anyway. This season's abject failure is all down to last summers recruitment, one gamble on Fernandez paid off, all other "cheap" signings and loans have failed and Ramsdale though of the quality needed has not had a hope in hell with the players in front of him. We needed to sign fewer players of a better quality to stand a chance. | | | |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 11:47 - Apr 29 with 716 views | Butty101 |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 09:48 - Apr 29 by SaintNick |
Yes I am seriously saying that, I am not taking this season in isolation, if i was i could suggest that last season was brilliant and that given that the 2 clubs who went down automatically , went down with almost as sorry a display as we gave in staying up, it would suggest that it is the state of football why we went down.
But I am not saying that, I am saying that since Ronald Koeman left in the summer of 2016 we have now spent 9 years moaning, moaning at the owners and moaning at the managers.
Every manager since Koeman has not been good enough for the very vocal minority on social media, Puel, Pelegrino, Hughes, Hasenhuttl, Jones, Selles, Martin, Juri, all have been royally slagged off.
Am I wrong ? Was their uproar when all of the where sacked, Puel got us to 8th place and a major cup final, but it wasn't good enough, everyone was self righteously saying that they were not being entertained and that they weren't renewing season tickets, so the board folded and sacked him, am I wrong ?
Hasenhuttl was the best manager we had since Koeman, he performed miracles in keeping us up with little money, when Sport Republic came in and threw multi millions into the transfer kitty, Hasenhuttl was suddenly under big fire, no one gave him leeway as the club hadn't bought a striker or the injuty problems, they demanded he went and put forward the 9-0 defeats as evidence.
Just the fact that those defeats had happened were enough to sack him.
Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and see how others see you.
9 years with every manager being slagged off by the fans who demand a big experienced name, who quite frankly isn't going to come near us is self entitlement in anyone book.
Yes the fans support has been amazing, but mainly on the road where the fans have turned out in numbers and stick with the team, but at home 10,000 or more fans leaving the stadium with 70 minutes gone is not amazing it is embarrassing.
I have never been so ashamed to be a Saints fan when literally the entire ground stood up and walked out when Fulham scored, I can understand why people were unhappy (understatement i know) but there were still the best part of 5 minutes left and the chance to perhaps pull a goal back, not unheard of we scored in injury time a week earlier.
For 50 year the vocal Saints supporters have pitched themselves next to the away fans, the most vocal fans don't need to be near the away fans and results don't matter, Palace for instance, Pompey and the Fratton end, the Kop at Liverpool.
Sadly we have grown used to being next to the away fans and we are not self motivators when it comes to singing, the occasional burst of OWTS or the new song stolen from Liverpool is all we get.
Again as I keep saying, tell me I am wrong, show me evidence to the contrary. |
its been 9 years of slowly getting worse.
You can literally point at Puels season as to when the black box broke. We lost Mane, pella and wanyama and replaced them with Redmond, Hojberg and Boufal.
You say Puel came 8th but that dosent tell the whole story. That season was an anomaly. We were closer to 18th (40 points ) than 7th (61 points). Usually you would expect to come 14/15th with that points total.
Ralph was great for a couple years - but he had lost the plot by the end of 21/22. He should of been allowed to spend the funds in the summer of 22/23, rather than have a load of players forced on him that were not good enough.
Out of that list of mangers Puel, Pelegrino, Hughes, Hasenhuttl, Jones, Selles, Martin, Juri - Ralph is the only one still at the top level - i think that says a lot about the clubs ability to pick a manager.
I honestly dont get why you are a club stooge. The club are a complete shambles and if we are not careful will end doing an Ipswich/Stoke/Sheff wed etc etc and vanish into obscurity. |  |
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| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 13:06 - Apr 29 with 615 views | SaintNick |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 11:47 - Apr 29 by Butty101 |
its been 9 years of slowly getting worse.
You can literally point at Puels season as to when the black box broke. We lost Mane, pella and wanyama and replaced them with Redmond, Hojberg and Boufal.
You say Puel came 8th but that dosent tell the whole story. That season was an anomaly. We were closer to 18th (40 points ) than 7th (61 points). Usually you would expect to come 14/15th with that points total.
Ralph was great for a couple years - but he had lost the plot by the end of 21/22. He should of been allowed to spend the funds in the summer of 22/23, rather than have a load of players forced on him that were not good enough.
Out of that list of mangers Puel, Pelegrino, Hughes, Hasenhuttl, Jones, Selles, Martin, Juri - Ralph is the only one still at the top level - i think that says a lot about the clubs ability to pick a manager.
I honestly dont get why you are a club stooge. The club are a complete shambles and if we are not careful will end doing an Ipswich/Stoke/Sheff wed etc etc and vanish into obscurity. |
I think it was inevitable that it was going to get worse after 2016, we had sneaked 6th, that position doesn't tell the whole story of 2015/16 , Mane was slagged off as was Pelle for most of the year and then when they left the club is accused of lacking ambition, that could be right, behind the Kingsland Stand there are the stables that house the wild horses that we keep on hand to ensure that our best players go to another club when they reach a certain value.
Did the Black Box break in 2016 ? what happened was that other clubs caught up with the technology, we were no longer ahead of the game in identifying players and had lost the edge, we still got some good players, Hojbjerg is a good example, he certainly had a better career in English football with us and Spurs than Wanyama did.
When Puel came 8th in the table you are indeed it didn.t tell the entire story, it didnt tell the story of Jose Fonte whose agent demanded he be transferred to Man Utd, only 8 months after Fonte had signed a long term deal and spoken of how much he loved the club and wanted to stay here for life, strangely seen as one of our own, unlike Danny Ings and others who dared to leave.
It didn't tell the story of the fact that only days after Fonte left for West Ham, quickly kissing the badge and claiming his wife came from a long line of Hammers fans, we lost Virgil Van Dijk to long term injury.
Puel still got us to 8th and a Cup final, but people were bored, they didn't want top 10 finishes and cup finals, they wanted to be entertained, Puel sacrificed entertainment to protect the back four and had arguably about the 7th best season in our history, yet it wasn't enough for many.
Puel's wikipedia page quotes Sports journalist Paul Doyle saying Puel was a victim of Southampton's admirably unreasonable expectations"
Points totals are different from season to season, sometimes teams scrape winning the League, sometimes they run away with it, whatever the situation, they still won it.
Why am I a club stooge, just because my opinion differs from yours ? that doesn't make me a club stooge, I just have an opinion, there are lots of things I don't like about what Sport Republic have done, but I try to look at the reasons why and whether they have rectified the mistakes or not.
I don't harp on about every little thing that goes wrong with the club, whether it is blocking a brick in the Chapel stand with a temporary ticket office or the fact that ticket prices were too dear for the FA Cup games, I don't think Sport Republic or Dragan Solak were directly responsible for either of those things or similar, so I don't blame them.
This of course makes me a club stooge because i am not demanding that they be burned at the stake for these heinous crimes against Southampton Football Club.
The type of clubs you mention usually drop down because they fail to address the problem in hand with someone who is best placed to deal with it.
Every time we lose games, the cry goes up to get Sean Dyche or Graham Potter or someone similar who is flavour of the month, the last time we did that with Harry Redknapp, that turned out well didn't it.
Call Sport Republic what you want, but in simple terms they got it right last season as we got promoted and that was the aim.
We got it wrong this season not because of temporary ticket offices and fan zones, but because we did not get in an experienced director of football who ran that side of things.
That was it in a nutshell, we spent around £120 million, Sport Republic underwrote that coming on top of £100 million spent in our relegation season.
That didn't make them bad owners, it made them poor employers as they failed to select the right people to run the footballing side of things and when they did as in the case of Shields & Wilcox, they got poached.
Of course this does not fit the agenda, so that makes me a club stooge. | |
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| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 18:51 - Apr 29 with 408 views | grumpy |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 09:48 - Apr 29 by SaintNick |
Yes I am seriously saying that, I am not taking this season in isolation, if i was i could suggest that last season was brilliant and that given that the 2 clubs who went down automatically , went down with almost as sorry a display as we gave in staying up, it would suggest that it is the state of football why we went down.
But I am not saying that, I am saying that since Ronald Koeman left in the summer of 2016 we have now spent 9 years moaning, moaning at the owners and moaning at the managers.
Every manager since Koeman has not been good enough for the very vocal minority on social media, Puel, Pelegrino, Hughes, Hasenhuttl, Jones, Selles, Martin, Juri, all have been royally slagged off.
Am I wrong ? Was their uproar when all of the where sacked, Puel got us to 8th place and a major cup final, but it wasn't good enough, everyone was self righteously saying that they were not being entertained and that they weren't renewing season tickets, so the board folded and sacked him, am I wrong ?
Hasenhuttl was the best manager we had since Koeman, he performed miracles in keeping us up with little money, when Sport Republic came in and threw multi millions into the transfer kitty, Hasenhuttl was suddenly under big fire, no one gave him leeway as the club hadn't bought a striker or the injuty problems, they demanded he went and put forward the 9-0 defeats as evidence.
Just the fact that those defeats had happened were enough to sack him.
Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and see how others see you.
9 years with every manager being slagged off by the fans who demand a big experienced name, who quite frankly isn't going to come near us is self entitlement in anyone book.
Yes the fans support has been amazing, but mainly on the road where the fans have turned out in numbers and stick with the team, but at home 10,000 or more fans leaving the stadium with 70 minutes gone is not amazing it is embarrassing.
I have never been so ashamed to be a Saints fan when literally the entire ground stood up and walked out when Fulham scored, I can understand why people were unhappy (understatement i know) but there were still the best part of 5 minutes left and the chance to perhaps pull a goal back, not unheard of we scored in injury time a week earlier.
For 50 year the vocal Saints supporters have pitched themselves next to the away fans, the most vocal fans don't need to be near the away fans and results don't matter, Palace for instance, Pompey and the Fratton end, the Kop at Liverpool.
Sadly we have grown used to being next to the away fans and we are not self motivators when it comes to singing, the occasional burst of OWTS or the new song stolen from Liverpool is all we get.
Again as I keep saying, tell me I am wrong, show me evidence to the contrary. |
Saints fans had the whole of the Archers End towards the end of the Dell days.
To expect fans not to be critical of managers if things are not going well is living in cloud cuckoo land.
To say we 'stole' the OWTS from Liverpool is a bit strong.yes Liverpool did sing it when Ian Saint John played for them but we have be singing that song for as long as I can remember.
I have never been ashamed to be a Saints supporter,yes! frustrated,angry and hurt but never been ashamed.
This season has been shocking,the fans have been brilliant considering what they have had to put up with.Being 5-0 down at half time at home to spurs has to be some low point like the 9-0 defeats. [Post edited 29 Apr 18:53]
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| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 19:32 - Apr 29 with 357 views | Ninja9 |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 18:51 - Apr 29 by grumpy |
Saints fans had the whole of the Archers End towards the end of the Dell days.
To expect fans not to be critical of managers if things are not going well is living in cloud cuckoo land.
To say we 'stole' the OWTS from Liverpool is a bit strong.yes Liverpool did sing it when Ian Saint John played for them but we have be singing that song for as long as I can remember.
I have never been ashamed to be a Saints supporter,yes! frustrated,angry and hurt but never been ashamed.
This season has been shocking,the fans have been brilliant considering what they have had to put up with.Being 5-0 down at half time at home to spurs has to be some low point like the 9-0 defeats. [Post edited 29 Apr 18:53]
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You really need to read Nicks post again . He did NOT state OWTS was the song pinched from Liverpool . | | | |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 19:36 - Apr 29 with 358 views | grumpy |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 19:32 - Apr 29 by Ninja9 |
You really need to read Nicks post again . He did NOT state OWTS was the song pinched from Liverpool . |
Yes ! You’re right my apologies.
Mind you going on about stealing songs is a bit rich considering most clubs use each others songs. [Post edited 29 Apr 19:56]
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| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 20:05 - Apr 29 with 322 views | saintmark1976 |
| Southampton V Fulham The Verdict on 11:47 - Apr 29 by Butty101 |
its been 9 years of slowly getting worse.
You can literally point at Puels season as to when the black box broke. We lost Mane, pella and wanyama and replaced them with Redmond, Hojberg and Boufal.
You say Puel came 8th but that dosent tell the whole story. That season was an anomaly. We were closer to 18th (40 points ) than 7th (61 points). Usually you would expect to come 14/15th with that points total.
Ralph was great for a couple years - but he had lost the plot by the end of 21/22. He should of been allowed to spend the funds in the summer of 22/23, rather than have a load of players forced on him that were not good enough.
Out of that list of mangers Puel, Pelegrino, Hughes, Hasenhuttl, Jones, Selles, Martin, Juri - Ralph is the only one still at the top level - i think that says a lot about the clubs ability to pick a manager.
I honestly dont get why you are a club stooge. The club are a complete shambles and if we are not careful will end doing an Ipswich/Stoke/Sheff wed etc etc and vanish into obscurity. |
It’s a little bit harsh to call Nick a stooge Butty.After all, just like the rest of us he’s a right to an opinion.
Probably better to suggest he’s happy with the record of the owners and staff of Sports Republic.
Like yourself, given where we now find ourselves as a Club I can’t fathom why, but hey ho,if nothing else it’s an interesting alternative view I suppose. [Post edited 29 Apr 20:07]
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