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the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 10:05 - May 5 by themodfather
andy thomson, with 27, is one player i can think of who got 20 or more. Gallen when he came back, played all over to help the team, he never got 20. we had furlong, helguson and adel, i don't think they got 20. we have had many loans up front as well, this year injuries crippled us but if FREY was ever fit for 30 games he'd get into double figures, he looks powerful and works hard . squad rotation these days probably affects goal scoring ? simply GOALS WIN GAMES .
Adel Taarabt scored 27 goals and had 20 assists in our promotion season. Despite being fat, lazy and inconsistent.
The grass is always greener.
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the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 12:32 - May 5 with 603 views
the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 12:15 - May 5 by ParkRoyalR
Systems score goals not players (best let QPR Twitter know!)
The last Manager who clearly adhered to this statement for me was Warburton,
Since Warburton I hav'nt seen a coherent style of attacking play,
Cifuentes was undoubtedly a good defensive Coach but as Gallen alluded to, we just did'nt have a clear attacking style of play.
Hey mate,
From what i read(not ITK) Calm did most of the defensive shaping and Cif was more on the attack side. Sorry if that sounds pedantic! I agree with everything else though and very much hate the lets endlessly pass it around at the back.
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the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 13:24 - May 5 with 509 views
I believe most strongly that if we had a 20 goal CF in the team we would be a top ten team or even higher in the Championship.......contrary to many posters I think that we have a pretty decent squad of players when fit but just a little light in back-up players which is why we ended up in low mid table.
I do not understand why so many recent managers have not signed a 'proper' CF and forgone costly CB's and defensive midfielders - I cannot remember our last decent CF.
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the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 14:03 - May 5 with 481 views
the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 13:24 - May 5 by gazza1
I believe most strongly that if we had a 20 goal CF in the team we would be a top ten team or even higher in the Championship.......contrary to many posters I think that we have a pretty decent squad of players when fit but just a little light in back-up players which is why we ended up in low mid table.
I do not understand why so many recent managers have not signed a 'proper' CF and forgone costly CB's and defensive midfielders - I cannot remember our last decent CF.
Who are these costly CB's and DM's that you refer to? Also, what is your definition of a proper CF?
Fitness being a massive issue but putting that aside if Frey had been fit for the entire season he would have been well into double figures, Celar looked to be showing why we had signed him and kolli has chipped in with vital goals.
The problem as always is budget, CF's cost more money because of the importance they play in the system. We have admittedly been poor in our recruitment of strikers but money has unsuccessfully been spent on Dykes, Washington, Bonne, Sylla and many others.
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the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 14:15 - May 5 with 446 views
the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 14:03 - May 5 by Welsh_Ranger
Who are these costly CB's and DM's that you refer to? Also, what is your definition of a proper CF?
Fitness being a massive issue but putting that aside if Frey had been fit for the entire season he would have been well into double figures, Celar looked to be showing why we had signed him and kolli has chipped in with vital goals.
The problem as always is budget, CF's cost more money because of the importance they play in the system. We have admittedly been poor in our recruitment of strikers but money has unsuccessfully been spent on Dykes, Washington, Bonne, Sylla and many others.
I do not know about finances but reading this MB I understand Cook is on 'good wedge', JCS is no doubt on good wages with his new contract and his background.
A 'proper' CF is 20 goals a season man, good movement, pace, skills, take on/dribbling past defenders.....that's what I want. Agreed Frey could well have gotten a few goals, not so sure about Celar who was pretty poor all season, he even missed a penalty to ger his goalscoring off the zero mark!!! Kolli is not the answer, average at best, back-up at most.
Our forward signings, as stated, have been poor.
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the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 14:28 - May 5 with 426 views
the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 14:15 - May 5 by gazza1
I do not know about finances but reading this MB I understand Cook is on 'good wedge', JCS is no doubt on good wages with his new contract and his background.
A 'proper' CF is 20 goals a season man, good movement, pace, skills, take on/dribbling past defenders.....that's what I want. Agreed Frey could well have gotten a few goals, not so sure about Celar who was pretty poor all season, he even missed a penalty to ger his goalscoring off the zero mark!!! Kolli is not the answer, average at best, back-up at most.
Our forward signings, as stated, have been poor.
Most of us only really have a basic understanding of the financing of a football club but within that my understanding is that the hardest part of the game is putting the ball in the back of the net, which generally mean to me it would be the most expensive purchase.
Cook and JCS are probably well paid as has been written but most of our signings at the back have been free or at least low transfer fees.
I would love to have prime R9 at the club as that is who springs to mind from your description of a proper CF but i think that type of player is few and far between as the top scorer graph shows even in the Championship that is becoming a rarity and even looking at the top leagues in and around Europe that is what people are searching for.
My concern at times isn't the player playing in that CF role its our supply into that position, creating those clear cut opportunities for a player not necessarily the CF but runners to thrive and score goals, for example Madsens timely late arrival for a first time cross and goal at Sunderland. When it works it works well but I don't think we create that opportunity often enough.
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the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 14:41 - May 5 with 395 views
the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 14:28 - May 5 by Welsh_Ranger
Most of us only really have a basic understanding of the financing of a football club but within that my understanding is that the hardest part of the game is putting the ball in the back of the net, which generally mean to me it would be the most expensive purchase.
Cook and JCS are probably well paid as has been written but most of our signings at the back have been free or at least low transfer fees.
I would love to have prime R9 at the club as that is who springs to mind from your description of a proper CF but i think that type of player is few and far between as the top scorer graph shows even in the Championship that is becoming a rarity and even looking at the top leagues in and around Europe that is what people are searching for.
My concern at times isn't the player playing in that CF role its our supply into that position, creating those clear cut opportunities for a player not necessarily the CF but runners to thrive and score goals, for example Madsens timely late arrival for a first time cross and goal at Sunderland. When it works it works well but I don't think we create that opportunity often enough.
Strikers are generally more costly other players in the Team.
These players, Cook & JCS, that apparently come on a free, when they renew their contracts generally get very decent sign on fees.......nothing comes free any more.
As far as strikers....the Club must do better as far as I am concerned.
[Post edited 5 May 14:42]
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the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 14:43 - May 5 with 385 views
the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 14:41 - May 5 by gazza1
Strikers are generally more costly other players in the Team.
These players, Cook & JCS, that apparently come on a free, when they renew their contracts generally get very decent sign on fees.......nothing comes free any more.
As far as strikers....the Club must do better as far as I am concerned.
the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 14:15 - May 5 by gazza1
I do not know about finances but reading this MB I understand Cook is on 'good wedge', JCS is no doubt on good wages with his new contract and his background.
A 'proper' CF is 20 goals a season man, good movement, pace, skills, take on/dribbling past defenders.....that's what I want. Agreed Frey could well have gotten a few goals, not so sure about Celar who was pretty poor all season, he even missed a penalty to ger his goalscoring off the zero mark!!! Kolli is not the answer, average at best, back-up at most.
Our forward signings, as stated, have been poor.
So there were no 'proper' centre forwards in the entire division this season?
I'm surprised this meaningless 20 a season striker myth dies so hard. It's child's play to disprove it with stats.
the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 14:15 - May 5 by gazza1
I do not know about finances but reading this MB I understand Cook is on 'good wedge', JCS is no doubt on good wages with his new contract and his background.
A 'proper' CF is 20 goals a season man, good movement, pace, skills, take on/dribbling past defenders.....that's what I want. Agreed Frey could well have gotten a few goals, not so sure about Celar who was pretty poor all season, he even missed a penalty to ger his goalscoring off the zero mark!!! Kolli is not the answer, average at best, back-up at most.
Our forward signings, as stated, have been poor.
How much do you suppose a club would have to pay for one of those? £15-20m?
The grass is always greener.
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the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 15:53 - May 5 with 277 views
the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 01:37 - May 5 by nix
Maybe to get automatic promotion but not the play offs. Sunderland and Coventry each only had one player who scored double figures in goals. Bristol City and Sheffield Utd each had two.
Middlesbrough had three and didn't make the play offs.
We definitely needed our forwards to score more though. Especially Celar. Also more from midfield - no-one scored more than three from midfield. If only Celar had scored as many as Frey - so not outlandish - we'd have scored more/as many as Sunderland/Bristol City.
When you consider our second top goalscorer had 5 goals (Dunne)and between our other 3 forwards they only 8 between them, we need so much more from them
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the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 16:23 - May 5 with 194 views
How much did Stansfield cost Brum? In league 1???? 10-12m?
We have a striker who outscored him. Can either do it in the Championship?
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the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 16:40 - May 5 with 164 views
the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 15:53 - May 5 by daveB
When you consider our second top goalscorer had 5 goals (Dunne)and between our other 3 forwards they only 8 between them, we need so much more from them
Which is exactly what I said. But three players with ten goals each is demonstrably not necessary to reach the play offs.
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the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 17:02 - May 5 with 108 views
the mythical 20 goal a season striker on 17:02 - May 5 by RangersDave
Need tall and physical players, or else we get buggered by every team.
this team might very similar to the team we use...
Every other team we play are the tall ones!
[Post edited 5 May 17:03]
Can't have a midget forward line in this league, physicality is what it is all about. It might not be pretty but it is effective. Generally think Frey has been pretty good, but his injury record is why he is at QPR.
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