| Burka 16:03 - Jun 4 with 2691 views | Boundy |
For it or against the wearing of it in this country.
Myself yes I'm against it as are most other civilised countries who have banned it so why not , it is the 21st century after all. |  |
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| Burka on 16:12 - Jun 4 with 1189 views | raynor94 |
Against it interesting watching Simon Reeves Scandinavian series, Denmark have banned it we could learn a lot from them concerning immigrants |  |
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| Burka on 16:15 - Jun 4 with 1182 views | SullutaCreturned |
I think people should have the choice in a free country.
I suppose that begs the question just how many countries are actually free anymore?
We say we give people freedom of religious choice in this country, if a woman chooses to wear one then it's up to her and nobody else. If she is forced to, that's different. | | | |
| Burka on 16:24 - Jun 4 with 1167 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Burka on 16:15 - Jun 4 by SullutaCreturned |
I think people should have the choice in a free country.
I suppose that begs the question just how many countries are actually free anymore?
We say we give people freedom of religious choice in this country, if a woman chooses to wear one then it's up to her and nobody else. If she is forced to, that's different. |
I agree.
It’s not for other people to tell us how to dress, be it religion or laws. |  |
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| Burka on 16:32 - Jun 4 with 1155 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Burka on 16:15 - Jun 4 by SullutaCreturned |
I think people should have the choice in a free country.
I suppose that begs the question just how many countries are actually free anymore?
We say we give people freedom of religious choice in this country, if a woman chooses to wear one then it's up to her and nobody else. If she is forced to, that's different. |
I think your last sentence is an important one. The protests in Iran by women have highlighted that to some the burka is a symbol of repression.
Where countries expect it to be worn women are repressed so I'd say women are free in this country and there's no need to hide your face. |  |
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| Burka on 17:03 - Jun 4 with 1129 views | Gwyn737 |
I don’t think a full ban is necessary, but I do think that in certain occupations (public facing ones), the face covering should be removed. | | | |
| Burka on 17:34 - Jun 4 with 1112 views | Flashberryjack |
The way things are going, the wearing of the Burka may become compulsory for all women. |  |
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| Burka on 17:41 - Jun 4 with 1105 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Burka on 17:03 - Jun 4 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t think a full ban is necessary, but I do think that in certain occupations (public facing ones), the face covering should be removed. |
I agree. If you're NHS, police, armed forces or teaching the job should be contingent on you agreeing to not cover your face. A head scarf is Ok but we should be able to see faces.
What you do in your own time is your choice. | | | |
| Burka on 17:47 - Jun 4 with 1095 views | Dr_Winston |
I think we can learn a lot from the French when it comes to secularisation. |  |
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| Burka on 17:59 - Jun 4 with 1074 views | onehunglow |
Personally I find it offensive
It's not part of Islam but a tradition
I don't feel women should have to cover their faces and hair as to not inflame the lust of men
It's the same with them not being allowed to shake the hand of some male outside the family
It is plain wrong
We have not the guts to do the right thing | |
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| Burka on 18:06 - Jun 4 with 1051 views | controversial_jack |
It's really a non issue. If someone wants to create their own privacy in public that's up to them. | | | |
| Burka on 18:24 - Jun 4 with 1029 views | AnotherJohn |
One memory I have is taking my son to primary school and seeing a couple of kids visibly upset at the arrival in the playground of a black clad woman with full face veil (probably a niqab as the eyes were visible). I do think there is a case for prohibition in certain settings and certain kinds of social interaction where ID is important. In our culture the normal expectation is that you will show your face in everyday social interactions. | | | |
| Burka on 18:28 - Jun 4 with 1023 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Burka on 18:24 - Jun 4 by AnotherJohn |
One memory I have is taking my son to primary school and seeing a couple of kids visibly upset at the arrival in the playground of a black clad woman with full face veil (probably a niqab as the eyes were visible). I do think there is a case for prohibition in certain settings and certain kinds of social interaction where ID is important. In our culture the normal expectation is that you will show your face in everyday social interactions. |
Well at many petrol stations they' used to have signs saying motorcyclists had to remove helmets before entering the shop, did that apply to face coverings too? | | | |
| Burka on 18:37 - Jun 4 with 1008 views | controversial_jack |
| Burka on 18:24 - Jun 4 by AnotherJohn |
One memory I have is taking my son to primary school and seeing a couple of kids visibly upset at the arrival in the playground of a black clad woman with full face veil (probably a niqab as the eyes were visible). I do think there is a case for prohibition in certain settings and certain kinds of social interaction where ID is important. In our culture the normal expectation is that you will show your face in everyday social interactions. |
There is no requirement for social interaction or to identify yourself in public. I don't ask to be filmed everyday when I go out in public, but I can't avoid it unless i stay home or cover my face.You have to make your own privacy in public | | | |
| Burka on 19:45 - Jun 4 with 919 views | majorraglan |
| Burka on 17:03 - Jun 4 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t think a full ban is necessary, but I do think that in certain occupations (public facing ones), the face covering should be removed. |
I’d agree with you on this, some occupations including NHS, police forces, teaching as have been commented on already. I’d also add judges, border force, customs, to the list and I’d also ban in it certain public places.
As a democracy people have the freedom to do whatever they as long as it’s reasonable, wearing a burka is personal choice and as long as the woman wants to wear it so be it. | | | |
| Burka on 22:30 - Jun 4 with 830 views | Boundy |
| Burka on 17:34 - Jun 4 by Flashberryjack |
The way things are going, the wearing of the Burka may become compulsory for all women. |
So glad I'm the age I am "A stark new report suggests the white British population could become a minority in the UK within the next 40 years.
73 per cent of the British population is white, but is predicted to drop to 57 per cent by 2050.". | |
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| Burka on 23:01 - Jun 4 with 810 views | onehunglow |
| Burka on 22:30 - Jun 4 by Boundy |
So glad I'm the age I am "A stark new report suggests the white British population could become a minority in the UK within the next 40 years.
73 per cent of the British population is white, but is predicted to drop to 57 per cent by 2050.". |
It shows we have given over our country
Those whites welcoming this , and some will, are insane
It ll happen before then | |
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| Burka on 23:13 - Jun 4 with 807 views | Luther27 |
I’m against it on the grounds of security. | | | |
| Burka on 23:26 - Jun 4 with 802 views | DJack |
| Burka on 19:45 - Jun 4 by majorraglan |
I’d agree with you on this, some occupations including NHS, police forces, teaching as have been commented on already. I’d also add judges, border force, customs, to the list and I’d also ban in it certain public places.
As a democracy people have the freedom to do whatever they as long as it’s reasonable, wearing a burka is personal choice and as long as the woman wants to wear it so be it. |
This. |  |
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| Burka on 03:13 - Jun 5 with 760 views | AnotherJohn |
| Burka on 18:37 - Jun 4 by controversial_jack |
There is no requirement for social interaction or to identify yourself in public. I don't ask to be filmed everyday when I go out in public, but I can't avoid it unless i stay home or cover my face.You have to make your own privacy in public |
My post made no mention of what people could or could not do in public spaces, it related to the narrower question of what they could do in certain situations or types of social interaction. I would include visits to banks, entry to school premises (where security controls now generally apply), any kind of interaction inside offices with officials to request a public service, interactions with a police officer who requires to see the face, ability to vote at an election voting centre, driving a motor vehicle on public roads. My comment about social norms was just an observation, not a suggestion that everybody must conform with those norms anywhere outside their home. | | | |
| Burka on 05:46 - Jun 5 with 747 views | pencoedjack |
| Burka on 17:59 - Jun 4 by onehunglow |
Personally I find it offensive
It's not part of Islam but a tradition
I don't feel women should have to cover their faces and hair as to not inflame the lust of men
It's the same with them not being allowed to shake the hand of some male outside the family
It is plain wrong
We have not the guts to do the right thing |
Spot on.
It’s not the women’s choice in most cases. It’s bizarre that they have to walk behind men as well.
Denmark has a left leaning government which makes their stance quite refreshing. |  | | |
| Burka on 08:02 - Jun 5 with 664 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Burka on 19:45 - Jun 4 by majorraglan |
I’d agree with you on this, some occupations including NHS, police forces, teaching as have been commented on already. I’d also add judges, border force, customs, to the list and I’d also ban in it certain public places.
As a democracy people have the freedom to do whatever they as long as it’s reasonable, wearing a burka is personal choice and as long as the woman wants to wear it so be it. |
Yeah most would t find it acceptable or it would make them uncomfortable if someone was walking around covering their face in a balaclava or something. It’s the full face covering that is a bit unsettling for people I think. |  |
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| Burka on 08:43 - Jun 5 with 628 views | onehunglow |
| Burka on 05:46 - Jun 5 by pencoedjack |
Spot on.
It’s not the women’s choice in most cases. It’s bizarre that they have to walk behind men as well.
Denmark has a left leaning government which makes their stance quite refreshing. |
I read much about inclusivity
Yet we allow women to be controlled on this way by men
Their culture is to treat women as possessions , chattels that must adhere to rules unlike men
Evidence is how Islamic and east European men will be seen together socially with not a female in sight
Ever seen any Islamic ladies playing backgammon and smoking outside a cafe ?
Me neither
Our fathers and grandfathers fought for freedom and our basic lack of guts sees our country crumbling
And it is | |
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| Burka on 09:50 - Jun 5 with 577 views | controversial_jack |
| Burka on 03:13 - Jun 5 by AnotherJohn |
My post made no mention of what people could or could not do in public spaces, it related to the narrower question of what they could do in certain situations or types of social interaction. I would include visits to banks, entry to school premises (where security controls now generally apply), any kind of interaction inside offices with officials to request a public service, interactions with a police officer who requires to see the face, ability to vote at an election voting centre, driving a motor vehicle on public roads. My comment about social norms was just an observation, not a suggestion that everybody must conform with those norms anywhere outside their home. |
Maybe i misread. Why would a police officer need to see your face, or any official for that matter? i'm against voter ID, and I haven't voted since it was brought in.
What banks, who goes into banks thesedays if they can find one still open.
There's no need at all to see anyone's face in public unless they volunteer it | | | |
| Burka on 10:07 - Jun 5 with 568 views | Boundy |
| Burka on 08:43 - Jun 5 by onehunglow |
I read much about inclusivity
Yet we allow women to be controlled on this way by men
Their culture is to treat women as possessions , chattels that must adhere to rules unlike men
Evidence is how Islamic and east European men will be seen together socially with not a female in sight
Ever seen any Islamic ladies playing backgammon and smoking outside a cafe ?
Me neither
Our fathers and grandfathers fought for freedom and our basic lack of guts sees our country crumbling
And it is |
It seems that the rest of Europe are kicking back against this with France, Belguim Switzerland banning the wearing in public maybe they're right maybe not but I can't imagine what women's rights activists think when seeing these women ( who knows) marching dutifully behind . | |
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| Burka on 10:08 - Jun 5 with 567 views | Scotia |
It's a strange one. We only know one Muslim woman who wears a Burka, she is divorced and wears it completely out of choice. We've known her for about 5 years and I've never seen her face, my wife has and says she's absolutely stunning.
Perhaps wearing it it saves her a lot of unwanted attention.
I get the security concerns but wouldn't support a full ban. | | | |
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