| Another ill thought out policy on 21:00 - Jun 13 with 686 views | Whiterockin |
| Another ill thought out policy on 20:49 - Jun 13 by Gwyn737 |
I’m sure you’re right but that doesn’t mirror the national picture.
Hard to find individual numbers but Swansea overall had a 97% first preference success rate. That’s at Reception, Y7 and in year admissions.
Some of the 3% will be admissions being skewed by school performance. It’s no surprise that the best schools are oversubscribed with families outside of catchment applying. |
Parents are obsessed with Ofsted grades Gwyn, they should look at what is best for their children. Not just what is best for their ego. |  | |  |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:01 - Jun 13 with 677 views | Gwyn737 |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:00 - Jun 13 by Whiterockin |
Parents are obsessed with Ofsted grades Gwyn, they should look at what is best for their children. Not just what is best for their ego. |
Absolutely, mate 👍 |  | | |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:03 - Jun 13 with 667 views | Scotia |
| Another ill thought out policy on 20:41 - Jun 13 by trampie |
I've hit a down arrow by mistake, apologies.
What is the solution Gwyn, higher taxes for those earning big bucks ?, more cuts ?, what do you think ? |
Why just those earning (and that's the important part) big bucks?
What is big bucks?
We can't cut anymore in most spending areas. Public services across the board are on their knees. | | | |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:04 - Jun 13 with 653 views | trampie |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:00 - Jun 13 by Whiterockin |
Parents are obsessed with Ofsted grades Gwyn, they should look at what is best for their children. Not just what is best for their ego. |
The think is are schools obsessed with Ofsted grades ?, so they sre only interested in bright pupils and if a pupil hits a hard time through illnesses, family upheaval etc are the schools then interested in that pupil ? |  |
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| Another ill thought out policy on 21:07 - Jun 13 with 627 views | Whiterockin |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:04 - Jun 13 by trampie |
The think is are schools obsessed with Ofsted grades ?, so they sre only interested in bright pupils and if a pupil hits a hard time through illnesses, family upheaval etc are the schools then interested in that pupil ? |
It's not the schools that try to move children out of a catchment area to attend a "better" school. | | | |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:55 - Jun 13 with 549 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:00 - Jun 13 by Whiterockin |
Parents are obsessed with Ofsted grades Gwyn, they should look at what is best for their children. Not just what is best for their ego. |
Our son ( we were always told by his teachers ) is bright but not interested academically. When he tild us he knew what he wanted to do ( a course at neath college in vehicle body repair) and what grades he needed in which subjects, we discussed his other exams. We told him the grades he got could be important in the future so please try your best but we also agreed that a few subjects he coukd give up on which were Welsh, Chenistry,Computer science and English literature. In return he promised maximum effort on the others.
He is already guaranteed his place in college and assuming he does well there's an apprenticeship in it too.
I think parents need to talk to their kids and find out what theyreally want and help them in that direction. | | | |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:58 - Jun 13 with 548 views | Dr_Winston |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:55 - Jun 13 by SullutaCreturned |
Our son ( we were always told by his teachers ) is bright but not interested academically. When he tild us he knew what he wanted to do ( a course at neath college in vehicle body repair) and what grades he needed in which subjects, we discussed his other exams. We told him the grades he got could be important in the future so please try your best but we also agreed that a few subjects he coukd give up on which were Welsh, Chenistry,Computer science and English literature. In return he promised maximum effort on the others.
He is already guaranteed his place in college and assuming he does well there's an apprenticeship in it too.
I think parents need to talk to their kids and find out what theyreally want and help them in that direction. |
There is a huge, HUGE issue with the lack of vocational training available. In about 10-15 years massive shortages will begin to appear in a lot of skilled but not academic professions.
The whole education system needs a massive rethink. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Another ill thought out policy on 22:06 - Jun 13 with 540 views | Gwyn737 |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:55 - Jun 13 by SullutaCreturned |
Our son ( we were always told by his teachers ) is bright but not interested academically. When he tild us he knew what he wanted to do ( a course at neath college in vehicle body repair) and what grades he needed in which subjects, we discussed his other exams. We told him the grades he got could be important in the future so please try your best but we also agreed that a few subjects he coukd give up on which were Welsh, Chenistry,Computer science and English literature. In return he promised maximum effort on the others.
He is already guaranteed his place in college and assuming he does well there's an apprenticeship in it too.
I think parents need to talk to their kids and find out what theyreally want and help them in that direction. |
Agree completely.
Trouble is, the last few governments have been chasing a ‘world class’ academic education system which basically means chasing PISA rankings.
Any future government that comes in and makes what would be the sensible choice to up the standing of vocational routes will get accused of dumbing school down.
It’s going to be hard to get around.
It’s just my opinion but there are number of things in the curriculum up to 16 that really don’t need to be there. | | | |
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| Another ill thought out policy on 22:07 - Jun 13 with 537 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:58 - Jun 13 by Dr_Winston |
There is a huge, HUGE issue with the lack of vocational training available. In about 10-15 years massive shortages will begin to appear in a lot of skilled but not academic professions.
The whole education system needs a massive rethink. |
There is a massive shortfall now mate. We are really short of many trades.
In fact on my sons chosen course he was told that a local garage was offering an apprentice wages of £18.50 per hour for a 40 hour week because there is a really ig shortage in that area. That's £740 per week at 18,
I'm surposed more kids don't want to start earning straight away, that much money, still living at home and as he pointed out to me is only around 200 quid per year less than I earn at 58. | | | |
| Another ill thought out policy on 22:14 - Jun 13 with 529 views | Dr_Winston |
| Another ill thought out policy on 22:07 - Jun 13 by SullutaCreturned |
There is a massive shortfall now mate. We are really short of many trades.
In fact on my sons chosen course he was told that a local garage was offering an apprentice wages of £18.50 per hour for a 40 hour week because there is a really ig shortage in that area. That's £740 per week at 18,
I'm surposed more kids don't want to start earning straight away, that much money, still living at home and as he pointed out to me is only around 200 quid per year less than I earn at 58. |
There's a lot of builders in their mid to late 50's who aren't being replaced at anything like a quick enough rate.
Much of that is down to the idiocy of an educational system that doesn't acknowledge that some kids simply aren't academic and would hugely benefit (personally and financially) from being streamed away from GCSE's and towards vocational training.
A lot of it has to do with a society that has allowed school leavers to become frightened of hard work. The number of 16-24 year olds who aren't economically active is quite scary.
New Labour's moronic desire to have 50% of school leavers going to Uni was a big driver of this. Utterly undermined trades training. Made it look worthless. We need to make trades respected and "sexy" again. Christ, a Plumber can earn more than he/she would in a lot of white collar jobs. | |
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| Another ill thought out policy on 22:15 - Jun 13 with 528 views | Whiterockin |
| Another ill thought out policy on 21:58 - Jun 13 by Dr_Winston |
There is a huge, HUGE issue with the lack of vocational training available. In about 10-15 years massive shortages will begin to appear in a lot of skilled but not academic professions.
The whole education system needs a massive rethink. |
The first thing that has to be accepted is children do not need to go to university just to feed the ego of their parents. For some educational pathways it is required, for the majority it is not. Sit down and discuss with your children what they want to do in life, if they are not sure put education on hold, there is no need to go to university and run up massive debt just because it suits your perception of what children should do. | | | |
| Another ill thought out policy on 22:21 - Jun 13 with 509 views | Dr_Winston |
| Another ill thought out policy on 22:15 - Jun 13 by Whiterockin |
The first thing that has to be accepted is children do not need to go to university just to feed the ego of their parents. For some educational pathways it is required, for the majority it is not. Sit down and discuss with your children what they want to do in life, if they are not sure put education on hold, there is no need to go to university and run up massive debt just because it suits your perception of what children should do. |
Mrs. Winston's son wanted to do an apprenticeship. He's interested in civil engineering and applied for quite a few posts. He didn't get one, so ended up in Uni doing a HNC (and now probably doing a B-Eng) by default.
There needs to be a huge increase in the amount of skilled apprenticeships. He could have been working and earning for a year instead of taking out student loan. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Another ill thought out policy on 22:47 - Jun 13 with 454 views | max936 |
| Another ill thought out policy on 13:15 - Jun 13 by Whiterockin |
I would say "not popular" because of the travelling time involved. There currently are St Mike's school busses running from various parts of Swansea from about 7.30 and getting back with the last drop off close to 5. Even worse from Porthcawl where there are many applications the for next school year because of the closure there. |
A relative of mine on my late Dads side is a Teacher at a Private School in Llanelli he teaches the science's and maths and physics, that must be St Michaels he loves it the pupils keep him young, I'm 64 and he gots to be late 60's still looks like he's in his 40's  |  |
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| Another ill thought out policy on 23:02 - Jun 13 with 426 views | majorraglan |
| Another ill thought out policy on 22:14 - Jun 13 by Dr_Winston |
There's a lot of builders in their mid to late 50's who aren't being replaced at anything like a quick enough rate.
Much of that is down to the idiocy of an educational system that doesn't acknowledge that some kids simply aren't academic and would hugely benefit (personally and financially) from being streamed away from GCSE's and towards vocational training.
A lot of it has to do with a society that has allowed school leavers to become frightened of hard work. The number of 16-24 year olds who aren't economically active is quite scary.
New Labour's moronic desire to have 50% of school leavers going to Uni was a big driver of this. Utterly undermined trades training. Made it look worthless. We need to make trades respected and "sexy" again. Christ, a Plumber can earn more than he/she would in a lot of white collar jobs. |
The aim of getting more kids in to Uni was to try and shake up the system where most of the kids going to Uni were from more privileged backgrounds which was preventing working class kids getting ahead and getting in to positions where they could make positive changes.
The concept of opening doors to a wider pool was sound, but it’s been poorly executed and now we have hundreds of thousands of kids, doing rubbish degrees at poor universities, ending up in massive debt doing jobs they don’t need a degree for - it’s mental. What we’re also seeing is kids are now doing a masters straight after their degree, which in my opinion is a nonsense -because they should be getting a job, getting some experience under their belt and earning before the Masters - if it’s needed.
We should definitely be encouraging apprenticeships and particularly in things like the building trades. I was talking to a carpenter today who’s just started out on his own, he charges £250 a day or around £60k per year based on working 48 weeks a year. He also has 2 buy to lets. He’s done well for a lad in his mid 20s. | | | |
| Another ill thought out policy on 23:04 - Jun 13 with 413 views | trampie |
Should children be taught how to cook, clean, look after finances, learn good manners, learn how to be good citizens in school, would that benefit our society. | |
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| Another ill thought out policy on 07:53 - Jun 14 with 309 views | Whiterockin |
| Another ill thought out policy on 23:04 - Jun 13 by trampie |
Should children be taught how to cook, clean, look after finances, learn good manners, learn how to be good citizens in school, would that benefit our society. |
Agreed, but these things should also be encouraged in the home. | | | |
| Another ill thought out policy on 07:58 - Jun 14 with 290 views | trampie |
| Another ill thought out policy on 07:53 - Jun 14 by Whiterockin |
Agreed, but these things should also be encouraged in the home. |
I was going to add 'or should it be done at home' and then I thought that some children might come from broken homes/care homes. | |
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| Another ill thought out policy on 16:43 - Jun 14 with 189 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Another ill thought out policy on 23:04 - Jun 13 by trampie |
Should children be taught how to cook, clean, look after finances, learn good manners, learn how to be good citizens in school, would that benefit our society. |
I'd say definitely yes to that. It's something that should be done at home too, obviously, where possible.
They get taught so much that seems pointless when they could be learning valuable life skills. | | | |
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