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Rubbish collections 21:42 - Jun 25 with 5632 viewsSullutaCreturned

The Senedd has done it then, recommended to Welsh councils that balck bags should only be collected every 3 to 4 weeks because that is sufficient,

walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-councils-told-only-collect-31930619

They are saying that 60L per week is enough for "black bag"waste and a wheelie bin holds 240L but what they miss there is that a decent chunk of the wheelie bin is space, put 3 black bags in and around 20-30% (at a guess) is wasted space.

It also says that of the 22 councils only a few ciollect every 3 weeks with Conwy being at 4 weeks. Most are forthnightly

Will this work across the whole of Wales or is it thet start of fly tipping?

Speaking for our house our bin has 3 bags in it every collection and sometimes (at Christmas for example) we have extra bags and we recycle everything we can but we also buy a lot online and have it delivered and there is always a lot of unrecycleable packaging..

Our council tax bills have risen again and they are saying that from now on there could be 5% rises year on year. It's more of the same then, our bills continue to rise while our services get cut.
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Rubbish collections on 14:46 - Jun 26 with 881 viewsItchySphincter

Rubbish collections on 09:01 - Jun 26 by Whiterockin

Seagulls rip the bags open every week even if there is no food inside. Don't start me on the blue bags, the contents are so lightweight the bags were flying everywhere and ended up not being collected. Nobody used them again. Just give wheelie bins to everyone to keep the rubbish tidy when it is put out.


Only if there is food in them, and that includes wrappers. I’m not taking the piss but run the cold tap over anything that has touched food and they won’t touch it. Mine are never ripped open, blue or black, yet my neighbour’s is torn to bits every week. He’s always moaning about the animals whereas he could just rinse it and job done.

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Rubbish collections on 14:51 - Jun 26 with 872 viewsItchySphincter

This thread definitely has an element of ‘way, wah, wah’ about it.

Just take responsibility for your own mess. It’s still collected weekly, change your habits.

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Rubbish collections on 15:00 - Jun 26 with 858 viewsScotia

The bottom line is Landfill Tax is going up every year - I think at the moment it's around £130 a tonne. An average household produces about a tonne of waste, across Swansea that's a total cost of about £13000000 coming out of the councils budget.
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Rubbish collections on 15:19 - Jun 26 with 837 viewsSullutaCreturned

Rubbish collections on 11:35 - Jun 26 by Luther27

Educate the council then as in Neath after every plastic collection the roads are strewn with the stuff coming off the overfilled recycle lorries, and that’s not taking into account the mess left after the operatives loading the waste into the lorry bays.
3 to 4 week collections are unhygienic. Travel abroad and when you return home you will see what a filthy island we have become since the advent of recycling.


You're dead right. It's terrible by us after a collection. They empty sacks and just throw them across the street, the same with the boxes, they regualarly get damaged and need replacing. I even had to order a new wheelie bin.
Then there is loads of refuse across the street because they are carelelss.

Resloven, what can't be recycled,

Hygiene and Medical Waste: COVID-19 test waste (including Lateral Flow cartridges), COVID-19 related PPE (like face masks), disposable nappies, and tissues/wet wipes.
Certain Glass Items: Glass cookware, Pyrex, ovenware, drinking glasses, candle jars, and ceramics.
Specific Plastics: Food and drink pouches, plastic film lids, plastic toys, and toothpaste tubes.
Other Materials: Sticky tape, clothes hangers, and some food and drink pouches.
Laminated foil: Items like pet food pouches and coffee pouches.
Crisp packets and sweet wrappers: according to a Welsh recycling guide.
Polystyrene takeaway boxes: according to Flintshire County Council.
Tissues, wet wipes, cotton buds, and cotton wool: .
Toothpaste tubes: .
Some types of plastic: Plastic carrier bags, cling film, and plastic film food wrapping.

We buy our mear from a local butchers, it nearly all comes in non recycleable containers and wrapped in clingfilm.
We have 2 large dogs and while they are walked 4 times a day there is still a lot of waste in the garden because we cannot control when they need to go.
Anything that says "non recycleable" goes in the black bag. Anything that is recycleable goes in the recycling and our wheelie is still full nearly every fortnight.

Even when it is not full other people often put their black bags in.
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Rubbish collections on 15:34 - Jun 26 with 819 viewsScotia

Rubbish collections on 15:19 - Jun 26 by SullutaCreturned

You're dead right. It's terrible by us after a collection. They empty sacks and just throw them across the street, the same with the boxes, they regualarly get damaged and need replacing. I even had to order a new wheelie bin.
Then there is loads of refuse across the street because they are carelelss.

Resloven, what can't be recycled,

Hygiene and Medical Waste: COVID-19 test waste (including Lateral Flow cartridges), COVID-19 related PPE (like face masks), disposable nappies, and tissues/wet wipes.
Certain Glass Items: Glass cookware, Pyrex, ovenware, drinking glasses, candle jars, and ceramics.
Specific Plastics: Food and drink pouches, plastic film lids, plastic toys, and toothpaste tubes.
Other Materials: Sticky tape, clothes hangers, and some food and drink pouches.
Laminated foil: Items like pet food pouches and coffee pouches.
Crisp packets and sweet wrappers: according to a Welsh recycling guide.
Polystyrene takeaway boxes: according to Flintshire County Council.
Tissues, wet wipes, cotton buds, and cotton wool: .
Toothpaste tubes: .
Some types of plastic: Plastic carrier bags, cling film, and plastic film food wrapping.

We buy our mear from a local butchers, it nearly all comes in non recycleable containers and wrapped in clingfilm.
We have 2 large dogs and while they are walked 4 times a day there is still a lot of waste in the garden because we cannot control when they need to go.
Anything that says "non recycleable" goes in the black bag. Anything that is recycleable goes in the recycling and our wheelie is still full nearly every fortnight.

Even when it is not full other people often put their black bags in.


Dog waste is a problem, we've got two and one is pretty large.

I bag it from the garden and put it in the local dog waste bin when I pass. It would stink if that was in a household bin for too long.
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Rubbish collections on 15:38 - Jun 26 with 810 viewsraynor94

Rubbish collections on 15:19 - Jun 26 by SullutaCreturned

You're dead right. It's terrible by us after a collection. They empty sacks and just throw them across the street, the same with the boxes, they regualarly get damaged and need replacing. I even had to order a new wheelie bin.
Then there is loads of refuse across the street because they are carelelss.

Resloven, what can't be recycled,

Hygiene and Medical Waste: COVID-19 test waste (including Lateral Flow cartridges), COVID-19 related PPE (like face masks), disposable nappies, and tissues/wet wipes.
Certain Glass Items: Glass cookware, Pyrex, ovenware, drinking glasses, candle jars, and ceramics.
Specific Plastics: Food and drink pouches, plastic film lids, plastic toys, and toothpaste tubes.
Other Materials: Sticky tape, clothes hangers, and some food and drink pouches.
Laminated foil: Items like pet food pouches and coffee pouches.
Crisp packets and sweet wrappers: according to a Welsh recycling guide.
Polystyrene takeaway boxes: according to Flintshire County Council.
Tissues, wet wipes, cotton buds, and cotton wool: .
Toothpaste tubes: .
Some types of plastic: Plastic carrier bags, cling film, and plastic film food wrapping.

We buy our mear from a local butchers, it nearly all comes in non recycleable containers and wrapped in clingfilm.
We have 2 large dogs and while they are walked 4 times a day there is still a lot of waste in the garden because we cannot control when they need to go.
Anything that says "non recycleable" goes in the black bag. Anything that is recycleable goes in the recycling and our wheelie is still full nearly every fortnight.

Even when it is not full other people often put their black bags in.


Crisp packets carrier bags and lots of soft plastics can be recycled at supermarkets in Swansea

I understand you are doing the right thing but so many don't, it's supposed to be a 2 black bag limit but lots by me don't adhere to it and shove any thing into them you can here them clinking as the bin men pick them up

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Rubbish collections on 15:53 - Jun 26 with 801 viewsSullutaCreturned

Rubbish collections on 15:38 - Jun 26 by raynor94

Crisp packets carrier bags and lots of soft plastics can be recycled at supermarkets in Swansea

I understand you are doing the right thing but so many don't, it's supposed to be a 2 black bag limit but lots by me don't adhere to it and shove any thing into them you can here them clinking as the bin men pick them up


That's why our bin ften gets "topped up" because people are too lazy to recycle yet they'll go to all the effort of sneaking up the road late at night ir early in the morning to dump a bag in someone else's rubbish.

There's a few things that need to be done, in my opinion, first, more education. Don't just do this thing without trying to get to more people and get them to wise up.

Even more important, the reason we need black bags is because so much if the wrapping material is non recycleable. Instead of constantly punishing the householder, get the shops to change their habits. More, much more of what we buy should come in sustainable packaging.

Why is it always the householder who gets punished? As said, we face a constant tide of rising prices while the service is also being cut, we are being hit twice at every turn.

Anybody who is happy with that must be bonkers. Corporate greed creates most if the problem but the householder has to do the work AND pay the bill.
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Rubbish collections on 16:05 - Jun 26 with 791 viewsReslovenSwan1

Rubbish collections on 15:19 - Jun 26 by SullutaCreturned

You're dead right. It's terrible by us after a collection. They empty sacks and just throw them across the street, the same with the boxes, they regualarly get damaged and need replacing. I even had to order a new wheelie bin.
Then there is loads of refuse across the street because they are carelelss.

Resloven, what can't be recycled,

Hygiene and Medical Waste: COVID-19 test waste (including Lateral Flow cartridges), COVID-19 related PPE (like face masks), disposable nappies, and tissues/wet wipes.
Certain Glass Items: Glass cookware, Pyrex, ovenware, drinking glasses, candle jars, and ceramics.
Specific Plastics: Food and drink pouches, plastic film lids, plastic toys, and toothpaste tubes.
Other Materials: Sticky tape, clothes hangers, and some food and drink pouches.
Laminated foil: Items like pet food pouches and coffee pouches.
Crisp packets and sweet wrappers: according to a Welsh recycling guide.
Polystyrene takeaway boxes: according to Flintshire County Council.
Tissues, wet wipes, cotton buds, and cotton wool: .
Toothpaste tubes: .
Some types of plastic: Plastic carrier bags, cling film, and plastic film food wrapping.

We buy our mear from a local butchers, it nearly all comes in non recycleable containers and wrapped in clingfilm.
We have 2 large dogs and while they are walked 4 times a day there is still a lot of waste in the garden because we cannot control when they need to go.
Anything that says "non recycleable" goes in the black bag. Anything that is recycleable goes in the recycling and our wheelie is still full nearly every fortnight.

Even when it is not full other people often put their black bags in.


Are you telling me you put dog poo in black bags.? Really? Yuk why not compost it in your own garden. The earthworms would love it..

Medical stuff is different most do not have them. Nappies have their own system.

Things t like cling film and food boxes ars small and easily fit into a black bag. All glass is accepted where I live.

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Rubbish collections on 16:11 - Jun 26 with 793 viewsSullutaCreturned

Rubbish collections on 15:34 - Jun 26 by Scotia

Dog waste is a problem, we've got two and one is pretty large.

I bag it from the garden and put it in the local dog waste bin when I pass. It would stink if that was in a household bin for too long.


It doesn't go in the household bin, black bag in the garden.

On a tangent now but we walk our dogs in the local park and the poo bins in there are often oveerflowing. They don't get emptied often enough. There are a couple on nearby streets that are usually full too. The local community council is respnsible and their bill has also risen while services get cut.
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Rubbish collections on 17:06 - Jun 26 with 766 viewsLuther27

Rubbish collections on 15:00 - Jun 26 by Scotia

The bottom line is Landfill Tax is going up every year - I think at the moment it's around £130 a tonne. An average household produces about a tonne of waste, across Swansea that's a total cost of about £13000000 coming out of the councils budget.


Tax set by The Senedd you mean?
I see Scotland has solved the landfill problem by sending up to 100 lorries a day laden with black bag refuse to England. I wonder what the carbon footprint is for that method.
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Rubbish collections on 17:08 - Jun 26 with 759 viewsLuther27

Rubbish collections on 15:34 - Jun 26 by Scotia

Dog waste is a problem, we've got two and one is pretty large.

I bag it from the garden and put it in the local dog waste bin when I pass. It would stink if that was in a household bin for too long.


Pet waste really is something that’s not good to hang around for long periods especially during summer.
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Rubbish collections on 17:12 - Jun 26 with 754 viewsBoundy

Rubbish collections on 15:00 - Jun 26 by Scotia

The bottom line is Landfill Tax is going up every year - I think at the moment it's around £130 a tonne. An average household produces about a tonne of waste, across Swansea that's a total cost of about £13000000 coming out of the councils budget.


and that budget is paid for by the council tax payers who has seen yet again a rise well above inflation with a promise of more in the rest of this decade .

The gripe should be why are manufacturers still selling items with packing well above what is required, I thought this was being reviewed by governments

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Rubbish collections on 17:16 - Jun 26 with 748 viewsBoundy

Rubbish collections on 16:05 - Jun 26 by ReslovenSwan1

Are you telling me you put dog poo in black bags.? Really? Yuk why not compost it in your own garden. The earthworms would love it..

Medical stuff is different most do not have them. Nappies have their own system.

Things t like cling film and food boxes ars small and easily fit into a black bag. All glass is accepted where I live.


You must be mad if you bury dog waste in your garden "dog waste can contain dangerous parasites and bacteria like hookworms, roundworms, giardia, and parvovirus, so using it as fertilizer for edible plants can be extremely hazardous. The only way to safely use dog poop as fertilizer is by properly composting it". The worst advice ever.

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Rubbish collections on 18:28 - Jun 26 with 701 viewsSullutaCreturned

Rubbish collections on 17:16 - Jun 26 by Boundy

You must be mad if you bury dog waste in your garden "dog waste can contain dangerous parasites and bacteria like hookworms, roundworms, giardia, and parvovirus, so using it as fertilizer for edible plants can be extremely hazardous. The only way to safely use dog poop as fertilizer is by properly composting it". The worst advice ever.


It's bad for grass too because it's high in nitrogen.

Dog poop can be composted but...taken from wiki...

Yes, dog poop can be composted, but it requires careful management and a dedicated system to ensure safety. Composting dog waste can be a sustainable way to reduce landfill waste and create nutrient-rich soil for non-edible plants. However, it's crucial to understand the risks and take necessary precautions.
Here's a breakdown of the key considerations:
Separate Bin:
Dog waste should always be composted in a separate bin, away from your regular compost and vegetable gardens, to prevent contamination.
Heat and Time:
Dog waste needs to reach a high enough temperature (typically 140°F or 60°C) to kill harmful pathogens. This usually requires a well-maintained, hot compost pile that is turned regularly.
Carbon Source:
Dog waste is high in nitrogen, so it needs to be balanced with a carbon-rich material like sawdust, wood shavings, or shredded paper.
Dedicated System:
Specialized composting systems, like worm farms or specialized bins, can be more efficient and safer for handling dog waste.
Safety Precautions:
Avoid using the compost on edible plants or anywhere young children or pets might come into contact with it.
In summary: Composting dog waste is possible, but it's not as simple as tossing it in your regular compost pile. A dedicated, well-managed composting system, along with proper safety precautions, is essential for successful and safe composting of dog waste.
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Rubbish collections on 19:14 - Jun 26 with 673 viewsunion_jack

Rubbish collections on 18:28 - Jun 26 by SullutaCreturned

It's bad for grass too because it's high in nitrogen.

Dog poop can be composted but...taken from wiki...

Yes, dog poop can be composted, but it requires careful management and a dedicated system to ensure safety. Composting dog waste can be a sustainable way to reduce landfill waste and create nutrient-rich soil for non-edible plants. However, it's crucial to understand the risks and take necessary precautions.
Here's a breakdown of the key considerations:
Separate Bin:
Dog waste should always be composted in a separate bin, away from your regular compost and vegetable gardens, to prevent contamination.
Heat and Time:
Dog waste needs to reach a high enough temperature (typically 140°F or 60°C) to kill harmful pathogens. This usually requires a well-maintained, hot compost pile that is turned regularly.
Carbon Source:
Dog waste is high in nitrogen, so it needs to be balanced with a carbon-rich material like sawdust, wood shavings, or shredded paper.
Dedicated System:
Specialized composting systems, like worm farms or specialized bins, can be more efficient and safer for handling dog waste.
Safety Precautions:
Avoid using the compost on edible plants or anywhere young children or pets might come into contact with it.
In summary: Composting dog waste is possible, but it's not as simple as tossing it in your regular compost pile. A dedicated, well-managed composting system, along with proper safety precautions, is essential for successful and safe composting of dog waste.


Not to mention the bloody stench.

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Rubbish collections on 21:37 - Jun 26 with 632 viewsGwyn737

It’s pretty simple down with me.

One black wheelie bin for general waste, one green wheelie bin for all recycling. Each collected once a fortnight.

No need to rinse anything for recycling either.
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Rubbish collections on 21:46 - Jun 26 with 615 viewsWhiterockin

Rubbish collections on 21:37 - Jun 26 by Gwyn737

It’s pretty simple down with me.

One black wheelie bin for general waste, one green wheelie bin for all recycling. Each collected once a fortnight.

No need to rinse anything for recycling either.


You don't live in Wales mate where common sense goes out the window in pursuit of recycling and pollution targets that are unachievable.
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Rubbish collections on 22:05 - Jun 26 with 591 viewsBoundy

Rubbish collections on 21:46 - Jun 26 by Whiterockin

You don't live in Wales mate where common sense goes out the window in pursuit of recycling and pollution targets that are unachievable.


If wheelie bins are to be rolled out ( pun intended) in some parts of Swansea it'll be interesting to see how 1/ Where will these bins be stored. 2/ How will the collectors collect them, take Town Hill for example ,if anyone knows the area a lot of the houses are built on steep slopes and to gain access is via numerous and I mean numerous steps ,this is the case also in Bonymaen in fact in many other parts of town so where will these bins be stored ,out on the pavement for example, if so it'll be utter chaos because most of the time the pavements are used as parking bays , another issue.

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Rubbish collections on 22:55 - Jun 26 with 571 viewsmajorraglan

I live down west and we’ve been on a 3 weekly black bag collection for several years now. I was a bit sceptical when it was first introduced, we were told we could only put out a maximum of 3 bags but it’s never been an issue. If people have more than 3 bags, they can take it to the tip.

Food waste and recycling is weekly, black bags and glass is 3 weekly and grass /garden waste collection costs £50 for a 240l wheelie bin to be emptied every fortnight between March and November.

Down our way all the rubbish and the general recycling goes out in bags, I think wheelie bins or containers are a much cleaner option and should be the way to go particularly when it comes to controlling vermin.
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Rubbish collections on 00:36 - Jun 27 with 541 viewsReslovenSwan1

Rubbish collections on 17:16 - Jun 26 by Boundy

You must be mad if you bury dog waste in your garden "dog waste can contain dangerous parasites and bacteria like hookworms, roundworms, giardia, and parvovirus, so using it as fertilizer for edible plants can be extremely hazardous. The only way to safely use dog poop as fertilizer is by properly composting it". The worst advice ever.


I do not have a vegetable garden . I never suggested using as fertiliser for food production.

Putting it in black bags sound disgusting to me.

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Rubbish collections on 01:16 - Jun 27 with 532 viewsRobbie

Rubbish collections on 05:20 - Jun 26 by ItchySphincter

I assume you’re buying a new fridge freezer and paying for delivery? You must be because if you had the means to collect it you could use the same means to take the old one to recycling, or to the lay-by you are asking about.

Pay the 21 quiz and stop moaning. The people that don’t want to pay for anything are the same people that moan when they haven’t got anything.


Maybe I should stop paying my horrendous monthly Rates bill for waste collection then .

Did negotiate a free delivery charge anyway from the supplier who I agree would not by law recieve and dispose of said appliance too .
Many other householders who just chuck the thing by the side ot the road .

Appreciate times are tough for many and the collection fee really pees me off as a bill payer using a service which should be a part of my input to the Council Tax I pay .

There again I could go onto the benefits fraud and get everything for free .
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Rubbish collections on 06:20 - Jun 27 with 500 viewsScotia

Rubbish collections on 17:06 - Jun 26 by Luther27

Tax set by The Senedd you mean?
I see Scotland has solved the landfill problem by sending up to 100 lorries a day laden with black bag refuse to England. I wonder what the carbon footprint is for that method.


No Westminster. Scotland will have to pay it too.

Basically if we don't recycle we'll either get less for our council tax cash or have to pay more.
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Rubbish collections on 07:35 - Jun 27 with 469 viewsBoundy

Rubbish collections on 00:36 - Jun 27 by ReslovenSwan1

I do not have a vegetable garden . I never suggested using as fertiliser for food production.

Putting it in black bags sound disgusting to me.


You also never suggested not putting it into vegetable plots ,not sure why placing it into black bags repels you but each to their own.

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Rubbish collections on 15:57 - Jun 27 with 373 viewsSullutaCreturned

Rubbish collections on 22:55 - Jun 26 by majorraglan

I live down west and we’ve been on a 3 weekly black bag collection for several years now. I was a bit sceptical when it was first introduced, we were told we could only put out a maximum of 3 bags but it’s never been an issue. If people have more than 3 bags, they can take it to the tip.

Food waste and recycling is weekly, black bags and glass is 3 weekly and grass /garden waste collection costs £50 for a 240l wheelie bin to be emptied every fortnight between March and November.

Down our way all the rubbish and the general recycling goes out in bags, I think wheelie bins or containers are a much cleaner option and should be the way to go particularly when it comes to controlling vermin.


Doesn't taking black bags to the tip defeat the whole purpose?

You are still throwing land fill away AND you are creating more emissions to do so as well as the wear and tear on the car. Why when the rubbish truck is outside your house?

They charge you more for garden waste which is the most easily compostable stuff of all?

We should be like Gwyn's council, 2 wheelie bins. Simple is best. Even better if we could just chuck rubbish straight in and do away with the bags.
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Rubbish collections on 16:02 - Jun 27 with 367 viewsReslovenSwan1

Rubbish collections on 07:35 - Jun 27 by Boundy

You also never suggested not putting it into vegetable plots ,not sure why placing it into black bags repels you but each to their own.


I suggested compositing with worms which is what is recommended by the experts.

I cannot be criticised for what I do not say. Each reader has to their own research. Dog poo has to be composted some where. Mixing it with general wastes seems careless to me
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