| Rubbish collections 21:42 - Jun 25 with 2717 views | SullutaCreturned |
The Senedd has done it then, recommended to Welsh councils that balck bags should only be collected every 3 to 4 weeks because that is sufficient,
walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-councils-told-only-collect-31930619
They are saying that 60L per week is enough for "black bag"waste and a wheelie bin holds 240L but what they miss there is that a decent chunk of the wheelie bin is space, put 3 black bags in and around 20-30% (at a guess) is wasted space.
It also says that of the 22 councils only a few ciollect every 3 weeks with Conwy being at 4 weeks. Most are forthnightly
Will this work across the whole of Wales or is it thet start of fly tipping?
Speaking for our house our bin has 3 bags in it every collection and sometimes (at Christmas for example) we have extra bags and we recycle everything we can but we also buy a lot online and have it delivered and there is always a lot of unrecycleable packaging..
Our council tax bills have risen again and they are saying that from now on there could be 5% rises year on year. It's more of the same then, our bills continue to rise while our services get cut. [Post edited 26 Jun 12:24]
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| Rubbish collections on 16:35 - Jun 27 with 888 views | Luther27 |
| Rubbish collections on 06:20 - Jun 27 by Scotia |
No Westminster. Scotland will have to pay it too.
Basically if we don't recycle we'll either get less for our council tax cash or have to pay more. |
No…it’s the Senedd who set the rate in Wales
The Senedd (Welsh Parliament) sets the Landfill Disposals Tax (LDT) rates for Wales, which are unique to the country. For the period starting April 1, 2025, the standard rate is £126.15 per tonne, the lower rate is £6.30 per tonne, and the rate for unauthorized disposals is £189.25 per tonne. These rates are set by the Landfill Disposals | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 16:48 - Jun 27 with 857 views | EagleEye |
Well the Senedd has to find a way to pay for all the extra AMs somehow.
Got a mate with a place in Spain - when I rented his house a few years ago he told me about the rubbish & recycling process out there. Basically, his street has a number of communal bins, recyclable & non recyclables in an alley just down the road. You take your waste down there when your bins are full. The black bags get collected EVERY week day in the summer. And the council tax is about 20% of what we pay in Swansea. The inefficiencies of public services in this country is astounding |  | | |
| Rubbish collections on 17:34 - Jun 27 with 797 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rubbish collections on 16:48 - Jun 27 by EagleEye |
Well the Senedd has to find a way to pay for all the extra AMs somehow.
Got a mate with a place in Spain - when I rented his house a few years ago he told me about the rubbish & recycling process out there. Basically, his street has a number of communal bins, recyclable & non recyclables in an alley just down the road. You take your waste down there when your bins are full. The black bags get collected EVERY week day in the summer. And the council tax is about 20% of what we pay in Swansea. The inefficiencies of public services in this country is astounding |
yeah we saw these communal bins when on holiday in Spain a few years back. They are a large skip size and the system worked very well, the streets were very clean in Cap Salou.
Hearing about the price it's ever more clear how much we get ripped off in the Uk.
Where does the money go, clearly not in services because it shouldn't cost so much more here than in Spain and this price differential is pretty much in everything comparing the UK ro Europe. It wasn't even cheaper when we were inside the EU. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 21:19 - Jun 27 with 735 views | Boundy |
| Rubbish collections on 17:34 - Jun 27 by SullutaCreturned |
yeah we saw these communal bins when on holiday in Spain a few years back. They are a large skip size and the system worked very well, the streets were very clean in Cap Salou.
Hearing about the price it's ever more clear how much we get ripped off in the Uk.
Where does the money go, clearly not in services because it shouldn't cost so much more here than in Spain and this price differential is pretty much in everything comparing the UK ro Europe. It wasn't even cheaper when we were inside the EU. |
I can concur , we've spent about of time on the Costa del Sol and you're right , it seems that anything goes when it comes to rubbish ,beds mattresses along with black bags are put in and by the morning the bins are empty , considering the increase in visitors it always amazes me the effort the local councils put in to keep areas tidy . | |
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| Rubbish collections on 22:19 - Jun 27 with 697 views | max936 |
| Rubbish collections on 17:34 - Jun 27 by SullutaCreturned |
yeah we saw these communal bins when on holiday in Spain a few years back. They are a large skip size and the system worked very well, the streets were very clean in Cap Salou.
Hearing about the price it's ever more clear how much we get ripped off in the Uk.
Where does the money go, clearly not in services because it shouldn't cost so much more here than in Spain and this price differential is pretty much in everything comparing the UK ro Europe. It wasn't even cheaper when we were inside the EU. |
Wasted and given away abroad without doubt. |  |
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| Rubbish collections on 22:23 - Jun 27 with 694 views | Luther27 |
| Rubbish collections on 21:19 - Jun 27 by Boundy |
I can concur , we've spent about of time on the Costa del Sol and you're right , it seems that anything goes when it comes to rubbish ,beds mattresses along with black bags are put in and by the morning the bins are empty , considering the increase in visitors it always amazes me the effort the local councils put in to keep areas tidy . |
Another help would be not having to fill out online application to make an appointment at your local recycling center. I have a relative living in London who can turn up anytime with any non recyclable materials and they are very appreciative of the fact he took the time and effort to do that. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 09:16 - Jun 28 with 623 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rubbish collections on 22:23 - Jun 27 by Luther27 |
Another help would be not having to fill out online application to make an appointment at your local recycling center. I have a relative living in London who can turn up anytime with any non recyclable materials and they are very appreciative of the fact he took the time and effort to do that. |
It seems that in the public sector way of thinking there's no problem that can't be helped by introducing more reams of paperwork.
Where I work we literally are stopped from doing our jobs by paperwork and keep getting given more and the work gets slower...and slower...we are forced to do less. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 10:48 - Jun 28 with 587 views | Gwyn737 |
| Rubbish collections on 09:16 - Jun 28 by SullutaCreturned |
It seems that in the public sector way of thinking there's no problem that can't be helped by introducing more reams of paperwork.
Where I work we literally are stopped from doing our jobs by paperwork and keep getting given more and the work gets slower...and slower...we are forced to do less. |
That is such an important post, Cat.
So much of public services are political footballs, changes any party wants to make are bogged down in ridiculous targets, ring fenced funding, not knowing when funding will cease, all with stacks of paperwork to prove everything along the way.
So many services are stymied by hyper accountability which ends up being far more costly and woefully unproductive. | | | |
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| Rubbish collections on 11:31 - Jun 28 with 550 views | Boundy |
| Rubbish collections on 22:23 - Jun 27 by Luther27 |
Another help would be not having to fill out online application to make an appointment at your local recycling center. I have a relative living in London who can turn up anytime with any non recyclable materials and they are very appreciative of the fact he took the time and effort to do that. |
I 've sometimes bypassed that by turning up and say I'm going into the "shop" drive in there have quick scan then drive out getting rid of my rubbish the same time. | |
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| Rubbish collections on 11:50 - Jun 28 with 542 views | Dr_Winston |
| Rubbish collections on 10:48 - Jun 28 by Gwyn737 |
That is such an important post, Cat.
So much of public services are political footballs, changes any party wants to make are bogged down in ridiculous targets, ring fenced funding, not knowing when funding will cease, all with stacks of paperwork to prove everything along the way.
So many services are stymied by hyper accountability which ends up being far more costly and woefully unproductive. |
Definitely.
About 10-15 years ago my bosses would go to maybe one meeting every couple of weeks. Otherwise they were in the office managing it. These days they seem to spend at least half of their day in some sort of online target review meeting or other. MS Teams has made their job harder, not easier. |  |
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| Rubbish collections on 11:55 - Jun 28 with 523 views | Whiterockin |
| Rubbish collections on 11:50 - Jun 28 by Dr_Winston |
Definitely.
About 10-15 years ago my bosses would go to maybe one meeting every couple of weeks. Otherwise they were in the office managing it. These days they seem to spend at least half of their day in some sort of online target review meeting or other. MS Teams has made their job harder, not easier. |
Paperwork and meetings are only senior management trying to justify their time and why they are needed. This is where massive financial savings can be made freeing up time for what people are actually employed to do. |  | | |
| Rubbish collections on 15:55 - Jun 28 with 447 views | majorraglan |
| Rubbish collections on 22:23 - Jun 27 by Luther27 |
Another help would be not having to fill out online application to make an appointment at your local recycling center. I have a relative living in London who can turn up anytime with any non recyclable materials and they are very appreciative of the fact he took the time and effort to do that. |
We can do that down in Carmarthenshire too, but they sometimes have residency checks to make sure you’re a “local”.
There are limits on somethings, like asbestos and plasterboard and they can ask about black bags if you’ve got a few, but that’s it.
If they make things too difficult, people will fly tip. [Post edited 28 Jun 15:56]
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| Rubbish collections on 16:05 - Jun 28 with 424 views | Dr_Winston |
| Rubbish collections on 15:55 - Jun 28 by majorraglan |
We can do that down in Carmarthenshire too, but they sometimes have residency checks to make sure you’re a “local”.
There are limits on somethings, like asbestos and plasterboard and they can ask about black bags if you’ve got a few, but that’s it.
If they make things too difficult, people will fly tip. [Post edited 28 Jun 15:56]
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The last sentence is spot on, and part of the insanity of the whole thing.
Ending the vast majority of fly tipping would be a doddle. Local Authorities just need to fence off a couple of acres of land and let people (not businesses) dump anything non-toxic that they like there free of charge. Plasterboard, tyres, domestic waste, anything. If people can dump things legally for the same cost, they're far less likely to do it illegally.
Then either the same council employees who would be collecting the fly tipping can sort through it, or, even better, all the scrotes on community service.
You'll probably still get the odd person going rogue and dumping stuff illegally, but if you quadruple the penalties for doing so not many will take the risk. | |
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| Rubbish collections on 18:25 - Jun 28 with 357 views | Gwyn737 |
| Rubbish collections on 11:55 - Jun 28 by Whiterockin |
Paperwork and meetings are only senior management trying to justify their time and why they are needed. This is where massive financial savings can be made freeing up time for what people are actually employed to do. |
I think it depends on the sector, WR.
In schools, you’re bang on.
In the NHS, they need far more managers/admin IMO. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 18:59 - Jun 28 with 330 views | Whiterockin |
| Rubbish collections on 18:25 - Jun 28 by Gwyn737 |
I think it depends on the sector, WR.
In schools, you’re bang on.
In the NHS, they need far more managers/admin IMO. |
Not according to family members who have decent jobs in the NHS, not administration. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 19:21 - Jun 28 with 300 views | Gwyn737 |
| Rubbish collections on 18:59 - Jun 28 by Whiterockin |
Not according to family members who have decent jobs in the NHS, not administration. |
I’m basing my thoughts on private/public comparisons.
I don’t have any direct links so I won’t argue with you. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 19:36 - Jun 28 with 289 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rubbish collections on 18:25 - Jun 28 by Gwyn737 |
I think it depends on the sector, WR.
In schools, you’re bang on.
In the NHS, they need far more managers/admin IMO. |
The NHS, my wife would say different, she often says they do need more managers at her level but the NHS is top heavy with senior managers besides, they have a hierarchy and whoever is senior in the office is in charge when the manger isn't there.
SBUHB recently put a pause on hiring admin staff so as people leave they are not replaced. With fewer admin then yes, paperwork could builds a backlog and then the medically qualified end up dealing with it too.
it's difficult to say if that at all health boards tho. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 20:38 - Jun 28 with 248 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rubbish collections on 18:59 - Jun 28 by Whiterockin |
Not according to family members who have decent jobs in the NHS, not administration. |
Decent jobs? What are they then?
Again, my wifes office is short of admin.
SBUHB has the same staff retention issues as anywhere else. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 20:54 - Jun 28 with 227 views | Whiterockin |
| Rubbish collections on 20:38 - Jun 28 by SullutaCreturned |
Decent jobs? What are they then?
Again, my wifes office is short of admin.
SBUHB has the same staff retention issues as anywhere else. |
Both band 7. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 20:59 - Jun 28 with 205 views | majorraglan |
| Rubbish collections on 19:36 - Jun 28 by SullutaCreturned |
The NHS, my wife would say different, she often says they do need more managers at her level but the NHS is top heavy with senior managers besides, they have a hierarchy and whoever is senior in the office is in charge when the manger isn't there.
SBUHB recently put a pause on hiring admin staff so as people leave they are not replaced. With fewer admin then yes, paperwork could builds a backlog and then the medically qualified end up dealing with it too.
it's difficult to say if that at all health boards tho. |
I think other Health Boards are also putting the brakes on non medical recruiting, I think they are all experiencing financial pressures. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 21:00 - Jun 28 with 204 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rubbish collections on 20:54 - Jun 28 by Whiterockin |
Both band 7. |
Ah, we maybe have different ideas of wjht "decent job" means because being a higher band means better paid yes, but any legal, paod work is a decent job.
Admittedly there are some jobs I wouldn't do now but I would have when I was 17-25, my first job was kitchen porter.
I'd draw the line at working for McD's or any fast food joint. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 21:10 - Jun 28 with 189 views | Whiterockin |
| Rubbish collections on 21:00 - Jun 28 by SullutaCreturned |
Ah, we maybe have different ideas of wjht "decent job" means because being a higher band means better paid yes, but any legal, paod work is a decent job.
Admittedly there are some jobs I wouldn't do now but I would have when I was 17-25, my first job was kitchen porter.
I'd draw the line at working for McD's or any fast food joint. |
That's a strange response to my answer but fair enough. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 21:20 - Jun 28 with 177 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rubbish collections on 21:10 - Jun 28 by Whiterockin |
That's a strange response to my answer but fair enough. |
I just wondered where you drew the line for it to be a decent job? At what level is a job not decent?
What if someone was a band 5 but then because of stress, poor health and family commitments took a demotion to band 3?
Maybe I'm just taking your words too lierally. I am feeling a touch tetchy tonight. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 21:24 - Jun 28 with 167 views | Whiterockin |
| Rubbish collections on 21:20 - Jun 28 by SullutaCreturned |
I just wondered where you drew the line for it to be a decent job? At what level is a job not decent?
What if someone was a band 5 but then because of stress, poor health and family commitments took a demotion to band 3?
Maybe I'm just taking your words too lierally. I am feeling a touch tetchy tonight. |
It's not a problem. The point is was trying to make is that they are in a position to work closely with admin and general NHS staff and feel that the administrative area is overstaffed compared to staff "on the floor" . Nothing more nothing less. | | | |
| Rubbish collections on 22:06 - Jun 28 with 126 views | max936 |
| Rubbish collections on 09:16 - Jun 28 by SullutaCreturned |
It seems that in the public sector way of thinking there's no problem that can't be helped by introducing more reams of paperwork.
Where I work we literally are stopped from doing our jobs by paperwork and keep getting given more and the work gets slower...and slower...we are forced to do less. |
Arse covering paperwork due to the blame culture that has evolved in this Country. Its pathetic. | |
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